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What do Reggae, Rap, Racism, Rails & 1080 Rotations have in common?

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KtGo
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So I am new to the NS game and relatively new to freeskiing culture in general. There are many aspects that I think are great. The fact that freeskiing evolved from the desire to create a non-conforming counterculture is super rad. The interaction and commitment to this online community that includes pros, brands, photographers, random industry people and skiers from all over the world seems to be really unique. It seems that most embrace the carefree, live life to the fullest mentality, emphasis on personal style and the shunning of nitpicky rules, which is really refreshing.
I have tapped into NS to stay up on what's happening in the industry. While perusing, I've noticed something that seems very odd to me and I am hoping for some enlightenment.

I have noticed a heavy influence of Black American and Jamaican culture in much of the style, music, lingo and general vibe of the freeskiing culture. This is cool, black culture has many really dope elements that are very worthy of emulation. At the same time, I find myself often reading threads and comments that are littered with racism, whether it be overt or covert. Sometimes it is by the same people that are very obviously "embracing" black culture.

Please don't read this wrong and feel that I am saying the majority of NSers are doing this, I am not... I just see it happening pretty frequently and I'm surprised these people are not called out more. I would love to know some of your thoughts on why this is, and if anyone else sees this as problematic.

... I have attached some examples.


This guy "Frenchy" makes constant outwardly racist comments, here is one. "Boomie" agrees with him.


He then posts a pic of himself throwing up the 'Wu-Tang' symbol. (maybe he doesn't know its Wu-Tang?)


Nope! He knows.



Peep the signature. Yes, I know it's a South Park reference.



In a thread about whether or not America is the best country. These pics were all the same post... Please note the closing caption and up-votes. "If those don't bring a tear of joy to your eye gtfo of our glorious country."

Nov 13 2014 9:20PM
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ched_der
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quality first thread +k
Nov 13 2014 9:24PM
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xxACIDTRIPxx
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das it mane
Nov 13 2014 9:30PM
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rememberscott
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That frenchy comment isn't even racist?
Nov 13 2014 9:30PM
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TomDavies
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I am genuinely impressed. And I do agree that the racist comments should stop, but how is wu tang racist?
Nov 13 2014 9:32PM
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KtGo
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HP123That frenchy comment isn't even racist?


Generally there is a clear racial implication with the phrase "food stamp loving city thugs."
Nov 13 2014 9:33PM
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the_armidilo
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tl;dr
fuck you ranchy
Nov 13 2014 9:36PM
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270on420out
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OP is/is either:

14 years old
A wannabe butthurt social justice warrior
An elaborate troll
The dumbest member to ever visit NS


I fucking lost it at "maybe he doesn't know what it means" when referring to the Wu-tang symbol and French
Nov 13 2014 9:36PM
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KtGo
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xRAPHAELxI am genuinely impressed. And I do agree that the racist comments should stop, but how is wu tang racist?


Of course liking Wu-Tang and listening to them is not racist at all, it's dope! I was just saying that there are people that are very clearly racist in their comments and then they seem to embrace and emulate black culture (throwing up the Wu-Tang symbol.) The issue comes when you do not like the people whose culture/music/style etc. is being enjoyed and emulated.
Nov 13 2014 9:38PM
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270on420out
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KtGoGenerally there is a clear racial implication with the phrase "food stamp loving city thugs."


No there isn't. Actually you're the racist if you're implying that "food stamp loving city thugs" are only member of the African American race.
Nov 13 2014 9:38PM
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sbarlett
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KtGoGenerally there is a clear racial implication with the phrase "food stamp loving city thugs."


Wait so white/hispanic/asian/middle-eastern people can't be thugs? Isn't it a little racist that you jump to the conclusion he is talking about blacks? What if he was just talking about thugs in general...
Nov 13 2014 9:40PM
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[tk]
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Pretty much everything black people start works its way over to white culture. Rock n roll, hip hop, saggy pants, the phrases, gang signs. The freeski culture is a little quicker to pick up on it I've found. A lot of things I see skiers doing I see non-skiers doing in a couple years. Wu tang hands is one of em. I guess the pros are what start these things, and kids follow.

As for the racism, these things are just so removed from the black culture that its more what white people on NS do. These kids probably don't have ghetto black friends they are learning these things from. They're not thinking positively about blacks while they sag their pants, so it doesn't really contradict them saying racist remarks.
Nov 13 2014 9:42PM
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percs
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You are not new to this site. You are account is maybe new but you're definetly not. No one that new can embed pics like that.
Nov 13 2014 9:44PM
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sbarlett
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KeithyDYou are not new to this site. You are account is maybe new but you're definetly not. No one that new can embed pics like that.


if you know any basic shit about html code you'd know how to imbed pics. Not that mind-blowing of a concept
Nov 13 2014 9:47PM
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270on420out
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How exactly is embracing black culture racist again?
Nov 13 2014 9:56PM
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SnowshoeThompson
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people like you are the reason racism is still around. fuck off.
Nov 13 2014 9:56PM
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270on420out
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TRVP_LVRDOP is/is either:

14 years old
A wannabe butthurt social justice warrior
An elaborate troll
The dumbest member to ever visit NS


I fucking lost it at "maybe he doesn't know what it means" when referring to the Wu-tang symbol and French


Holy shit I was wrong. I thought the username sounded familiar. We are talking to KATIE GORMAN. David Lesh's Girl. Lesh is going to hunt us down and kill us.
Nov 13 2014 10:02PM
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KtGo
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TRVP_LVRDNo there isn't. Actually you're the racist if you're implying that "food stamp loving city thugs" are only member of the African American race.


I was definitely being sarcastic when saying "Frenchy" didn't know what the Wu-Tang symbol was... which was my point.

As for the "food stamp loving city thugs" comment... I have seen "Frenchy" on here quite a bit making seriously racist comments (I'm sure other NSers can confirm that) It is VERY clear what his opinions are. If someone else were to say this, I would assume a racial implication but would not be half as confident as when "Frenchy" said it.

The beginning of his quote spoke to "small town, hard working people" vs. "food stamp loving city thugs." The context in which he wrote about that dichotomy made it very clear that there were racial implications.

If you read the initial thread, I was saying that there are really dope aspects of black culture that should be emulated and I think that's great, as long as it is done with a respect for where the trend/music/language came from. My issue is when it is emulated by people who don't like black people. That is very odd to me.
Nov 13 2014 10:06PM
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percs
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KtGoI was definitely being sarcastic when saying "Frenchy" didn't know what the Wu-Tang symbol was... which was my point.

As for the "food stamp loving city thugs" comment... I have seen "Frenchy" on here quite a bit making seriously racist comments (I'm sure other NSers can confirm that) It is VERY clear what his opinions are. If someone else were to say this, I would assume a racial implication but would not be half as confident as when "Frenchy" said it.

The beginning of his quote spoke to "small town, hard working people" vs. "food stamp loving city thugs." The context in which he wrote about that dichotomy made it very clear that there were racial implications.

If you read the initial thread, I was saying that there are really dope aspects of black culture that should be emulated and I think that's great, as long as it is done with a respect for where the trend/music/language came from. My issue is when it is emulated by people who don't like black people. That is very odd to me.


Are u mad?
Nov 13 2014 10:13PM
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JahLiam
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Nov 13 2014 10:16PM
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lurking
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KtGoI was definitely being sarcastic when saying "Frenchy" didn't know what the Wu-Tang symbol was... which was my point.

As for the "food stamp loving city thugs" comment... I have seen "Frenchy" on here quite a bit making seriously racist comments (I'm sure other NSers can confirm that) It is VERY clear what his opinions are. If someone else were to say this, I would assume a racial implication but would not be half as confident as when "Frenchy" said it.

The beginning of his quote spoke to "small town, hard working people" vs. "food stamp loving city thugs." The context in which he wrote about that dichotomy made it very clear that there were racial implications.

If you read the initial thread, I was saying that there are really dope aspects of black culture that should be emulated and I think that's great, as long as it is done with a respect for where the trend/music/language came from. My issue is when it is emulated by people who don't like black people. That is very odd to me.


If you think have a real issue, PM a mod. Nobody thought it was racist, but it was racist that you think that only African-Americans could be thugs.
Nov 13 2014 10:20PM
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kshaughn
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KtGo



Not that this is entirely relevant, but this comment is somewhat correct. Democratic voters tend to be more lower income and rely heavier on the government (food stamps) while the more stereotypical republican is middle class or upper middle class with a higher household income. "Thugs", whether they are black, white asian, etc, are generally in the lower income bracket and would lean left when voting.

Now that is all obviously a big generalization and there are definitely exceptions. Exhibit A:
Nov 13 2014 10:33PM
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SnowshoeThompson
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KtGoMy issue


http://www.pewresearch.org/files/2013/07/FT_13.07.12_FoodStamps_310px.png

Now this thread is "racist"
Nov 13 2014 10:41PM
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yeahmon
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This thread is garbage. Op thinks he knows everything about freesking because he found out about newschoolers for the very first time.
Nov 13 2014 11:30PM
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KtGo
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yeahmonThis thread is garbage. Op thinks he knows everything about freesking because he found out about newschoolers for the very first time.


Not at all, I very clearly said that I'm new to this world. I made an observation, just wondering people's thoughts on the topic. Have you not noticed this at all? P.S. not that it really matters in this convo, but I'm a girl.
Nov 14 2014 1:00AM
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SnowshoeThompson
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If you are dating David Lesh then I would love to hear how you think Virtika's "Friday" series reflects on black culture?
Nov 14 2014 1:29AM
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Turkelton
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KtGoGenerally there is a clear racial implication with the phrase "food stamp loving city thugs."


you're the racist one there
Go back to tumblr, you social justice warrior. Go back to your hugbox and say the white man is always wrong while browsing fat feminist blogs.
SJW's make me sick. Constant complaining over nothing. Go back to thinking about how much of a bad person you are because you are a white male because it is always the white males fault apparently
Nov 14 2014 1:30AM
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VTbass802
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Turkeltonyou're the racist one there
Go back to tumblr, you social justice warrior. Go back to your hugbox and say the white man is always wrong while browsing fat feminist blogs.
SJW's make me sick. Constant complaining over nothing. Go back to thinking about how much of a bad person you are because you are a white male because it is always the white males fault apparently


Take it easy. I would agree that a lot of people who consider themselves to be fighting ignorance (what you call a social justice warrior) can come off aggressive and indignant and ultimately only shame the group that is the key belligerent, the classic example being the self righteous, militant feminist who is really a misandrist herself and does not actually consider men and women equal but women better than men. I think because you have come across this type of person two many times, you are letting them represent the civil rights movements they support, and that is wrong. Don't let a couple of people create a bad image for the rest. Ultimately I don't think OP is one of those people, and you came into this thread wanting to hate what she is saying.
Nov 14 2014 7:20AM
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JibbaTheHutt
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inb4 frenchy
Nov 14 2014 7:27AM
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yeahmon
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Op why don't you have a pink name ?
Nov 14 2014 7:45AM
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270on420out
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KtGoIn a thread about whether or not America is the best country. These pics were all the same post... Please note the closing caption and up-votes. "If those don't bring a tear of joy to your eye gtfo of our glorious country."




See this is sarcasm. It was probably hard for you to pick up on because it's the Internet. That was a satirical post designed to poke fun at 'pro-murican' people.


I gaurntee that any black person would not find any of the posts you posted racist in any way. The only iota of racism in this thread is you implying that "food stamp loving city thugs" are black.
Nov 14 2014 7:46AM
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.Hugo.
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To answer the question in your title.... they all start with the letter "R"
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