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DingoSeanThey can't bring back 'traditional marriage'. That's in the hand of the courts. Congress can't do squat about that. #dealwithit
also, I find the 2016 senate map to be pretty crazy.
This whole thing could TOTALLY flip in 2 years. Only like 8 Democrat seats up for election - all of which are strong incumbents in blue states... (except maybe Colorado, but in a presidential election year, the turnout will be massively higher, which isn't really good for Republicans in left-leaning tossup states like CO or even Nevada)
All while there are like 24 or something republican seats up for grabs... If the Democrats take like 4 or 5 and win the presidency again, we're back to where we are before yesterday... So really, I wouldn't get excited or dismayed about anything here, anyone.
elindeWhat happened to rebellious, fuck the system-left wing punk skiers? I miss that. It's starting to look like NS is a young republicans forum.
elindeWhat happened to rebellious, fuck the system-left wing punk skiers? I miss that. It's starting to look like NS is a young republicans forum.
elindeWhat happened to rebellious, fuck the system-left wing punk skiers? I miss that. It's starting to look like NS is a young republicans forum.
.frenchyI'm gonna go ahead and assume there are more democrats on NS....
inb4 'cumming' cries because I didn't put a capital D.
J.D.Hi guys, Canada here. Can we have Keystone XL now?
applejuice.THANK YOU! Praying that this major, and several smaller, pipeline projects get the go ahead soon. *prayer hands emoji*
CoreyTrevorSo...could you please explain how "fuck the system" mentality is left wing? Last I checked, the side that says "fuck the system" are the Republicans, and most of the other sadly miniscule and forlorn parties. Democrats are all for "The System". With the exception of marriage equality, more of a tough stance on drugs, and the occasional radical conservative that hates the fact that women can choose whether they have a kid or not, the Republicans are the one's saying fuck the system.
ANDR01DSorry for the dub-post, but I just noticed the left wing part. I firmly believe that both parties should go fuck themselves and that the whole system can go to hell. Honestly the only part I like is that there are different branches which in theory balance power.
elindeI know and I know. I don't like the two party system either blah blah blah. That's not what I was trying to say. What I meant by left wing was I was trying to imply more liberally minded people (which I know isn't necessarily left it's just an easy to try to get across what I meant although I clearly failed). We are talking about a different system to be fucked. The point was that in a culture built off of rebellion, suddenly it seems like the majority is now closer to people like frenchy, drifting towards more conservative values. When I first joined this site less than two years ago, I am more or less positive this thread would have been met with tons of hate, because I remember thinking that. Maybe it's Obama's fault, I don't know.
SFBron paul 2016
.frenchyyou mean Ted Cruz
elindeI know and I know. I don't like the two party system either blah blah blah. That's not what I was trying to say. What I meant by left wing was I was trying to imply more liberally minded people (which I know isn't necessarily left it's just an easy to try to get across what I meant although I clearly failed). We are talking about a different system to be fucked. The point was that in a culture built off of rebellion, suddenly it seems like the majority is now closer to people like frenchy, drifting towards more conservative values. When I first joined this site less than two years ago, I am more or less positive this thread would have been met with tons of hate, because I remember thinking that. Maybe it's Obama's fault, I don't know.
Brule.Damnit. Even though Rob Astorino won NY in terms of acreage, but Westchester and NYC had to ruin it all and vote for Cuomo.
J.D.Ughhh so much to address that's wrong but so little time. First, just so you know on the map thing, the phase III / IV expansion would approximately double capacity. It's basically half-done.
"the morality of the ultra heavy crude that bitumen" Why is there a morality issue here? First of all, if there's a morality issue it's paying for oil exported by dictatorial countries that treat women like goats, which money can then be spent on executions for homosexuals. Second, if you understood the process for bitumen extraction, it's open pit mining, full stop (literally it's shoveling sand). The tailings are less harmful than mining tailings but no one's really picketing the mining industry because it isn't marketed as well or easily (oil = bad). Third, sorry guys we're going to mine it all anyway, we can sell it to China or you, might as well be you.
The pipeline has seen six separate mandatory environmental studies and been subjected to the most rigorous environmental review in the history of pipelines, by kind of a large margin.
"as for what it would cost the country to employ those 42000... wouldn't the government spending that money on building or subsidizing green energy jobs do just as well at job creation?"
Spending it on anything would do just as well at job creation but a) it would be the government spending the money rather than the oil industry and b) this is sort of like suggesting you create jobs by having 42,000 people build a dam without any tools. It'll take way more people! More jobs! Who cares if it's a waste of money? Also, c) if you think the government isn't spending wads of cash on renewable energy incentives and development you're insane. But that stuff simply can't take the reins yet and it will be a gradual handoff over the next, oh probably the rest of our lifetime more or less.
"it seems to me that the cost of refining that absolute gunk from Ft. Mac would outweigh, or at least not be that much significantly cheaper than the higher cost of purchasing and shipping the much cleaner stuff from either Mexico or the Middle East"
You'd be wrong. This is a massive cost savings. This is the oil industry, if it wasn't profitable they wouldn't be doing it. It's in fact so profitable that notwithstanding that the cost has increased by about two and a half billion dollars, literally everyone still wants to do it. Also, you're worried about the environmental impacts of a pipeline (spills easier to prevent, easier to minimize and easier to clean up) but you're okay with shipping more oil from the middle east in tankers? That's a red herring though, it's really just dollars and cents... basically the cost of the crude is reduced according to the grade, no biggie, nobody in Fort Mac expects Brent pricing for their stuff.
"Seems to me that everything I've read states that the XL is just to send more oil down to the gulf so it can be exported."
The answer to this repeated false claim has been pretty blunt from TCPL: "Mr. Thompson and Mr. Findley’s piece also erroneously suggests that Keystone XL is about exports. This is categorically false. Keystone XL is designed to serve U.S. refineries in the Gulf Coast, period. We have said repeatedly that not a drop of crude oil from Keystone XL will be exported."
Moreover the US State Department concluded that US exports are not dependent on pipeline development, whether the thing is built or not. Crude exports aren't even economically feasible at this point because of transportation costs. Some of the refined stuff might go outside the USA, sure, but that completely misses the point of US refined product and demonstrates a misunderstanding of the entire industry.
The problem is that the industry is pretty complex and people just seem to have this knee-jerk negative reaction to anything involving oil or the oilsands, so it works when you compress these issues into thirty second ads which are universally misleading. But anyway, my point remains, I don't see this simply NEVER happening, so why delay it and push the cost up? You can have it for this price or more later.
Scaredwhiteboylol. I know you're stupid, but c'mon. If that were true, nobody would give a damn about the candidates' stances on gay marriage and abortion. Yet, for some reason, gay marriage and abortion are pretty much the only things dumbass leftists like yourself can talk about when discussing a Republican candidate.
Ignoring the fact that checks and balances don't work like they should in a perfect utopia, did you know that the senate has to approve every federal court nominee? The exact same senate that just got taken over by Republicans and the exact same courts that you seem to think have sole power to determine marriage law.
#RestoreTheSanctityOfMarriage
RudyGarmischJesus is back in the drivers seat.
DingoSeanwell so far I don't see Roe v. Wade being overturned ever... and with the way Gay Marriage is sweeping across the nation, I don't see that ending anytime soon either, as the courts have pretty much unanimously agreed on gay rights in that regard.
Check and balance all you want, but there's not enough power in the other two branches right now to overrule the courts at this juncture, or likely any juncture... it will take a downright republican super dooper majority to do that, and that will never happen.
2 years worth of a republican majority is not going to do enough to implement some sweeping change to either of these situations. Sorry, but you're completely disillusioned if you think this is going to change squat. Roe v. Wade will never be overturned, and Gay Marriage will continue to spread.
#LolYouLost,Homaphobes #prop8diedLOL #itshappening #whetheryoulikeitornot #GavinNewsom'd
AT-ATIdc what we talk about, you are impossible.
You are the shittiest mod on here. I lost the last thread of respect for you when you deleted the MLB thread because the Giants won. Now you continue to pollute threads.
Please take your business elsewhere. Thank you.
AT-ATIdc what we talk about, you are impossible.
You are the shittiest mod on here. I lost the last thread of respect for you when you deleted the MLB thread because the Giants won. Now you continue to pollute threads.
Please take your business elsewhere. Thank you.
DingoSeanwell so far I don't see Roe v. Wade being overturned ever... and with the way Gay Marriage is sweeping across the nation, I don't see that ending anytime soon either, as the courts have pretty much unanimously agreed on gay rights in that regard.
Check and balance all you want, but there's not enough power in the other two branches right now to overrule the courts at this juncture, or likely any juncture... it will take a downright republican super dooper majority to do that, and that will never happen.
2 years worth of a republican majority is not going to do enough to implement some sweeping change to either of these situations. Sorry, but you're completely disillusioned if you think this is going to change squat. Roe v. Wade will never be overturned, and Gay Marriage will continue to spread.
#LolYouLost,Homaphobes #prop8diedLOL #itshappening #whetheryoulikeitornot #GavinNewsom'd
louie.miragsI do not consider myself a democrat or a Republican but check out this map:
so crazy
mirozWhat was so bad about this post? All I see is him making fun of Scaredwhiteboys well-known high school point of view, which is not unlike what the rest of this thread is filled with.
AT-ATIt is nuts. It shows the power the city has over the rest of the state. I was looking at the numbers for each county and it crazy. Astorino got his ass handed to him in kings, new york, queens and the Bronx losing by 180,00, 160,000, 120,000 and 100,000 votes respectiviely.
If you take these 4 counties out Astorino wins by about 50,000 votes.
umphreaknoutYou're clearly far more intelligent than all of us. I tremble beneath your vastly more productive brain. Forgive my ignorance.
RudyGarmischJesus is back in the drivers seat.
AT-ATAlso, voter turn out is disgusting.
KravtZElection day should be a national holday...screw columbus day and all the BS holidays. I really wanted to vote...but couldnt because I WORK from 9-9. Most of those in NYC/BK,etc who didn't vote is because they were working
AT-ATAlso, voter turn out is disgusting.
Brule.Damnit. Even though Rob Astorino won NY in terms of acreage, but Westchester and NYC had to ruin it all and vote for Cuomo.
louie.miragsI do not consider myself a democrat or a Republican but check out this map:
so crazy
KravtZElection day should be a national holday...screw columbus day and all the BS holidays. I really wanted to vote...but couldnt because I WORK from 9-9. Most of those in NYC/BK,etc who didn't vote is because they were working
ZimmermanYour ultimate judgment of a man's brain is how productive it is? Also, by acknowledging that it's useless for me to care, I am also forgiving mass ignorance as a necessary product of the reality we inhibit
zzzskizzzNYC has A ton of people in it, don't take that out of account. Upstate its all very small towns.
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ScaredwhiteboyAlso, are you seriously using the #LolYouLost hashtag after your party just got obliterated in the election? That doesn't make any sense.
ScaredwhiteboyAll up to the election, leftists like yourself couldn't stop talking about how it would be the end of gay rights and women's rights if the Republicans took over congress. Now that they have taken over congress, you're instantly convinced they have no power to affect anything. Interesting. Either you were fear-mongering before the election or you're in denial.
Also, are you seriously using the #LolYouLost hashtag after your party just got obliterated in the election? That doesn't make any sense.
.frenchyGood stuff.
& I think Dingo has spent a little too much time in San Fran....
At least 25 states still aren't stupid and don't allow gay marriage.
shit-storm commence
louie.miragsI do not consider myself a democrat or a Republican but check out this map:
so crazy
BombogenesisIf Hillary is the dem nominee in 2016 the GOP will win unless they run an absolute fucknut worse than Romney.
zzzskizzzNYC has A ton of people in it, don't take that out of account. Upstate its all very small towns.
louie.miragsRemember - to paraphrase the great Joe rogan: if you're against gay marriage you're either 1. Dumb or 2. Secretly afraid dicks are delicious :)
ScaredwhiteboyAh yes, the good ole "if you disagree with me, you're stupid" argument. It always slays in debates.
mirozIf you don't like gay marriage, don't get gay married.
ScaredwhiteboyThe issue at hand is not that gays have a union of some sort with each other. If they want to put rings on their fingers and announce to the world that they lick each other's assholes, they can. However, the relationship they have is not marriage because marriage is the union of one man and one woman.