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.frenchy
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I'm surprised nobody's made the thread yet with it being middle October already, the stoke was too high and I had to make the sundown thread for like my millionth time


Only jam I know of:

Simsbury Celebrates - November 29th - Simsbury, CT


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Jan 23 2015 1:40PM
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i worked on Tom's last night. built some rollers, a weird snow dog house thing that may not last the weekend - to be turned into a regular spine. an additional rail deck and an additional jump. so two rails, two jumps.

that's about as much as i'll be putting on Tom's due to traffic demands of the masses.

next week, i think we'll swap the down bar for the big dfd. thoughts?
Feb 6 2015 9:31AM
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jackdonovan
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sounds dope
Feb 6 2015 10:03AM
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fluffi worked on Tom's last night. built some rollers, a weird snow dog house thing that may not last the weekend - to be turned into a regular spine. an additional rail deck and an additional jump. so two rails, two jumps.

that's about as much as i'll be putting on Tom's due to traffic demands of the masses.

next week, i think we'll swap the down bar for the big dfd. thoughts?



You do a great job there jarrod. I miss you guys.
Feb 6 2015 11:44PM
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fluffi worked on Tom's last night. built some rollers, a weird snow dog house thing that may not last the weekend - to be turned into a regular spine. an additional rail deck and an additional jump. so two rails, two jumps.

that's about as much as i'll be putting on Tom's due to traffic demands of the masses.

next week, i think we'll swap the down bar for the big dfd. thoughts?

Happy that there are being more features added, but will there ever be a jump on stinger again
Feb 12 2015 11:25AM
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.frenchy
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on my way to shred the deeeez

#beenawhile
Feb 12 2015 11:30AM
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BWalmer
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Evan_Happy that there are being more features added, but will there ever be a jump on stinger again


So, the reason there isn't a jump on Stinger is pretty easy. We could have 4 rails, or we could have 1 rail and 1 jump. Given the space left on Stinger, we picked 4 rails. The other reason is, it takes a lot of time, effort and space to have just one jump, which is usually fine, but when you really think about the number of people that actually hits those jumps every run, it's a very small amount compared to the people that hit every rail every run. Basically, it's hard to justify taking up the entire trail for a jump that only a handful of people will actually use all season. That being said, when spring rolls around (aka when more people really like hitting jumps) we'll be more open to adding a jump.

I realize this is annoying, and probably not the answer people want to hear, but when you really sit back and look at the trail as a whole, it makes the most sense. I know we said Satan's wouldn't get in the way very much...but plans change faster than you'd think, and this one is completely out of our control.
Feb 12 2015 11:44AM
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.frenchy
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who carezzz stinger is honestly so fun fdf should be switched out with another rail IMO, that rail's hit or miss for meh
Feb 12 2015 8:01PM
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BWalmer
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.frenchyfdf should be switched out with another rail IMO


It's on the list for the next build. We were thinking Monday night, but not entirely sure right now.
Feb 12 2015 8:06PM
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.frenchy
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BWalmerIt's on the list for the next build. We were thinking Monday night, but not entirely sure right now.


What are y'all thinking about replacing it with?
Feb 12 2015 8:18PM
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BWalmer
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.frenchyWhat are y'all thinking about replacing it with?


Not sure yet, depends on how everything else in the build goes.
Feb 12 2015 8:23PM
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shitpoop
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im feeling more mellow tube things
Feb 18 2015 3:22PM
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jackdonovan
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shitpoopim feeling more mellow tube things


same maybe a slight up
Feb 19 2015 2:52PM
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.frenchy
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I actually really like the set-up of big down urban things like the 32 and big dfd, big red is kinda weird IMO.

mellow tubes are fun too I guess, except it attracts a million hiking skittle kidz
Feb 19 2015 3:09PM
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jackdonovan
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.frenchymellow tubes are fun too I guess, except it attracts a million hiking skittle kidz


tru
Feb 19 2015 6:50PM
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BWalmer
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shitpoopim feeling more mellow tube things


Out of curiosity why more of the same thing?

jackdonovansame maybe a slight up


Possible, but unlikely, next build plan has the spot an up rail would go being used by more awesome things.

.frenchyI actually really like the set-up of big down urban things like the 32 and big dfd, big red is kinda weird IMO.

mellow tubes are fun too I guess, except it attracts a million hiking skittle kidz


Landing got kinda flat from all the snow, gotta go faster. It's most likely getting moved anyways.

Mellow tubes serve their purpose, I wish people hiking the top tower would move off to the side more and respect those that are trying to flow the park as a whole more, but whatever.
Feb 19 2015 7:00PM
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jackdonovan
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BWalmerPossible, but unlikely, next build plan has the spot an up rail would go being used by more awesome things


possibly a jump?
Feb 19 2015 8:54PM
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BWalmer
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jackdonovanpossibly a jump?


See previous post on jumps...sorry, not yet.
Feb 19 2015 9:41PM
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jackdonovan
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BWalmerSee previous post on jumps...sorry, not yet.


ya my bad

will there ever be another ski sundown slopestyle event? Or anything like that course, with jumps and rails all the way down stinger?
Feb 19 2015 9:49PM
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BWalmer
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jackdonovanwill there ever be another ski sundown slopestyle event? Or anything like that course, with jumps and rails all the way down stinger?


I mean, it's hard to say never...but most likely not. Reason being, we had over 40 kids sign up for a rail jam in the public park (meaning no "extra" build time required...next year hopefully it's a fresh setup but will end up being the public park - like in years past), those slopestyle courses closed half the park for a week, took a ton of man and machine hours to build, were only hittable for a day, and attracted around 20 people...just not really worth it. Believe me when I say, it's not that we don't want to build the courses...cause Jarrod and I are always talking about how much fun they are to build...there's just other factors in play.
Feb 19 2015 10:25PM
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BWalmer
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Because, you know updates and stuff...

So, Big Red and the Waterfall have been replaced with the Unbow and the Large Lift Tower, we added the medium lift tower to the steeps. For full disclosure, rainbow was going to be where the large tower is, but it broke (plastics need some redoing, bummer, but yeah).

Tom's is next on the list for a major tune up. But, we added a propane tank bonk and cleaned up the jumps so they're less "V'd" out until then.

I am well aware that this season has been...well, different. I'd like to have some different/awesome stuff up for the spring. So throw some suggestions in here and we can try and make it happen (no promises, as always, but I would like to hear your opinions).

Personal note, ON3P demo skis will be in possession after our Loon Demo on March 8th. If anyone wants to try them out, let me know and we can make it happen. We will have a full demo at Sundown at some point, but I haven't scheduled that yet.

**This post was edited on Feb 27th 2015 at 2:42:26pm
Feb 27 2015 1:35PM
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.frenchy
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big lift tower > rainbow


So i'm kinda glad it broke to be honest lol, park yesterday was $$$$ until school got out and there was about 15-20 kids in front of some of the damn features, kind of ruins the flow of the park when you have to weave around people who don't drop in for 5 minutes, especially the people filming sometimes too like man... you guys don't own the park lol


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Feb 27 2015 1:42PM
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jackdonovan
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BWalmerBecause, you know updates and stuff...

So, Big Red and the Waterfall have been replaced with the Unbow and the Large Lift Tower, we added the medium lift tower to the steeps. For full disclosure, rainbow was going to be where the large tower is, but it broke (plastics need some redoing, bummer, but yeah).

Tom's is next on the list for a major tune up. But, we added a propane tank bonk and cleaned up the jumps so they're less "V'd" out until then.

I am well aware that this season has been...well different. I'd like to have some different/awesome stuff up for the spring. So throw some suggestions in here and we can try and make it happen (no promises, as always, but I would like to hear your opinions).

Personal note, ON3P demo skis will be in possession after our Loon Demo on March 8th. If anyone wants to try them out, let me know and we can make it happen. We will have a full demo at Sundown at some point, but I haven't scheduled that yet.


will hopefully be there tomorrow
Feb 27 2015 2:25PM
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Id really like to see toms actually hittable...it was nice to have two legitimate parks to choose from but we haven't had that at all this year.

A couple rails like a lift tower or elbow kink or anything that is more than 2 inches out of the ground would be nice. I wanna be able to bring someone who has never skied before and still have fun and hit some rails on toms
Mar 2 2015 8:55PM
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AladeenId really like to see toms actually hittable...it was nice to have two legitimate parks to choose from but we haven't had that at all this year.

A couple rails like a lift tower or elbow kink or anything that is more than 2 inches out of the ground would be nice. I wanna be able to bring someone who has never skied before and still have fun and hit some rails on toms



let me reprase that: https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/759246/Yeah--well--that--39-s-just--like--your-opinion--man-

**This post was edited on Mar 3rd 2015 at 2:27:36pm
Mar 3 2015 10:06AM
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Mar 3 2015 1:20PM
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BWalmer
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AladeenId really like to see toms actually hittable...it was nice to have two legitimate parks to choose from but we haven't had that at all this year.

A couple rails like a lift tower or elbow kink or anything that is more than 2 inches out of the ground would be nice. I wanna be able to bring someone who has never skied before and still have fun and hit some rails on toms


A) please refer to my previous post.
B) We've been getting more requests for beginner features on Tom's so that people can learn...that is the whole point of the trail, to learn how to slide rails in a lower pressure situation (i.e. not under the main lift).
C) We've been getting many complaints in the past from new skiers/snowboarders that Tom's was too crowded and that "park people" were being rude and difficult to learn around...aka, everyone was a dick to the new skiers and snowboarders on a green circle learning trail, therefore Tom's gets smaller features until spring. There is a long-term solution planned, but who knows when it will happen or if it will change. I hate to say it, but we were trying to warn people of this in the past, people being disrespectful to customers makes it harder for us, as a park crew, to request allowance for more things...Tom's is a green circle/easiest way down trail first and a park trail second.


Jamartinilet me reprase that


I got you, bud.
Mar 3 2015 2:36PM
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BWalmerA) please refer to my previous post.
B) We've been getting more requests for beginner features on Tom's so that people can learn...that is the whole point of the trail, to learn how to slide rails in a lower pressure situation (i.e. not under the main lift).
C) We've been getting many complaints in the past from new skiers/snowboarders that Tom's was too crowded and that "park people" were being rude and difficult to learn around...aka, everyone was a dick to the new skiers and snowboarders on a green circle learning trail, therefore Tom's gets smaller features until spring. There is a long-term solution planned, but who knows when it will happen or if it will change. I hate to say it, but we were trying to warn people of this in the past, people being disrespectful to customers makes it harder for us, as a park crew, to request allowance for more things...Tom's is a green circle/easiest way down trail first and a park trail second.





I understand that, but would it be possible to split the park and main trail into two lanes to seperate park and learners. Because honestly combining these two trails is a terrible comboination. or like after that big left turn area that goes to flat and splits into a couple trails, fence off the area for the park and have a sign (youve done this previously). I feel like that will help alot and ward off some parents w/kids. no hate! loving the parks. cant wait for spring, hoping to see another mini pipe! or maybe a massive hip?

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Mar 6 2015 7:56PM
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BWalmer
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shitpoopI understand that, but would it be possible to split the park and main trail into two lanes to seperate park and learners. Because honestly combining these two trails is a terrible comboination. or like after that big left turn area that goes to flat and splits into a couple trails, fence off the area for the park and have a sign (youve done this previously). I feel like that will help alot and ward off some parents w/kids. no hate! loving the parks. cant wait for spring, hoping to see another mini pipe! or maybe a massive hip?

**This post was edited on Mar 6th 2015 at 8:15:41pm


We need to be able to groom the trail still, meaning a snowcat (about 20ft) on either side of each feature...we're barely able to do that as it is, let alone with the trail split in half. And, we're not trying to ward off parents and children...again it's a green circle first, a park trail second. We've also noticed this year that more people are trying to learn how to start sliding rails because of the way Tom's is set-up too, meaning more people are getting into park skiing and snowboarding (kinda the point of putting it on Tom's honestly). I think the problem is in years past we did too much to Tom's, honestly the way it's set-up right now is how it should have been all along.
Mar 6 2015 8:23PM
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jackdonovan
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will the sundown park crew ever have an instagram or youtube channel with park updates and/or park laps? sounds like a good idea, just dont know if you guys have the time and stuff
Mar 11 2015 10:44PM
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BWalmer
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jackdonovanwill the sundown park crew ever have an instagram or youtube channel with park updates and/or park laps? sounds like a good idea, just dont know if you guys have the time and stuff


Jarrod and I are really the only people who post to the instagram and I'm the one who films and edits 90% of the videos posted by sundown...so we kind of already do this.
Mar 11 2015 11:19PM
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jackdonovan
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BWalmerJarrod and I are really the only people who post to the instagram and I'm the one who films and edits 90% of the videos posted by sundown...so we kind of already do this.


The skisundown account or the skisundownparks account? and i already follow the instagram but i meant like a youtube channel with park laps on the updated parks etc.
Mar 11 2015 11:27PM
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BWalmer
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jackdonovanThe skisundown account or the skisundownparks account? and i already follow the instagram but i meant like a youtube channel with park laps on the updated parks etc.


The @skisundown instagram is the only official instagram, we have nothing to do with any others. And every time we change the park up (and more than that) I make an edit that has some laps in it, those go on the Sundown facebook and vimeo. We have no need for a separate park account...it's not that big of a mountain.
Mar 12 2015 4:57AM
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BWalmerThe @skisundown instagram is the only official instagram, we have nothing to do with any others. And every time we change the park up (and more than that) I make an edit that has some laps in it, those go on the Sundown facebook and vimeo. We have no need for a separate park account...it's not that big of a mountain.


Ended up skiing till 10 last night because the park was SO DAMN FUN. Please be open weekdays next week cuz thats when I start vacation. thx :^)
Mar 12 2015 10:41AM
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.frenchyEnded up skiing till 10 last night because the park was SO DAMN FUN. Please be open weekdays next week cuz thats when I start vacation. thx :^)


Yeah, it's pretty fun right now.

There hasn't been any talk of only being open on weekends yet, there could be some weather closings, but since we just started the season pass promotion (by your 15/16 pass now, ski for the rest of the season for free) we'll probably be open during the week for a bit.

Also, kinda big things happening tomorrow morning...hopefully it comes true...stay tuned.
Mar 12 2015 11:13AM
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.frenchy
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BWalmerThere hasn't been any talk of only being open on weekends yet, there could be some weather closings, but since we just started the season pass promotion (by your 15/16 pass now, ski for the rest of the season for free) we'll probably be open during the week for a bit.

Also, kinda big things happening tomorrow morning...hopefully it comes true...stay tuned.


Sweeeeet! Park has such a nice flow to it and im learnin me some new shit


Big things?!!? :0 Please don't change Stinger too much it's the best it's been all year
Mar 12 2015 11:21AM
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BWalmer
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.frenchySweeeeet! Park has such a nice flow to it and im learnin me some new shit


Big things?!!? :0 Please don't change Stinger too much it's the best it's been all year


Glad to see someone appreciates it. Can't be said for everyone unfortuntely.

Only the bottom 2 rails (DFD and 32) will be changed for now.
Mar 12 2015 12:20PM
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jackdonovan
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BWalmerThe @skisundown instagram is the only official instagram, we have nothing to do with any others. And every time we change the park up (and more than that) I make an edit that has some laps in it, those go on the Sundown facebook and vimeo. We have no need for a separate park account...it's not that big of a mountain.


didnt know about the facebook and vimeo, my bad. will be there on sunday to demo ON3Ps, hopefully the park is as fun as it looks
Mar 12 2015 12:27PM
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jackdonovan
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jackdonovanwill the sundown park crew ever have an instagram or youtube channel with park updates and/or park laps? sounds like a good idea, just dont know if you guys have the time and stuff


jackdonovanThe skisundown account or the skisundownparks account? and i already follow the instagram but i meant like a youtube channel with park laps on the updated parks etc.


feel like a massive gaper now haha

https://vimeo.com/skisundownhttps://vimeo.com/skisundown
Mar 12 2015 1:55PM
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BWalmer
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jackdonovanfeel like a massive gaper now haha

https://vimeo.com/skisundownhttps://vimeo.com/skisundown


Ha. No worries. Not everyone pays attention to all the social media outlets.
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BWalmer
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BWalmerAlso, kinda big things happening tomorrow morning...hopefully it comes true...stay tuned.


Jump is now up on Stinger.

Sorry it took so long, there were several reasons why we didn't want a jump up (one of the biggest being space and maintenance) until now, but since it's spring we're a bit more comfortable with it. Basically, we didn't want to take up the entire bottom of the trail with a jump knowing that if that jump ever had to be closed for some reason it would take away a significant portion of the park. Now that snow is softer, it's easier to maintain with a rake and shovels unlike mid-winter. We know it wasn't the most popular approach, but it was one that we felt was right.

Anyways, enjoy the soft landings and spring slush.

Mahalo!
Mar 13 2015 12:19PM
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awh shit I really liked the big dfd tho O________0

How big? Like 20 to the knuckle or smaller? bigger?
Mar 13 2015 2:20PM
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jackdonovan
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BWalmerJump is now up on Stinger.

Sorry it took so long, there were several reasons why we didn't want a jump up (one of the biggest being space and maintenance) until now, but since it's spring we're a bit more comfortable with it. Basically, we didn't want to take up the entire bottom of the trail with a jump knowing that if that jump ever had to be closed for some reason it would take away a significant portion of the park. Now that snow is softer, it's easier to maintain with a rake and shovels unlike mid-winter. We know it wasn't the most popular approach, but it was one that we felt was right.

Anyways, enjoy the soft landings and spring slush.

Mahalo!


.frenchyawh shit I really liked the big dfd tho O________0

How big? Like 20 to the knuckle or smaller? bigger?


dope! props and thanks for building it
will be there maybe saturday and definetly sunday
Mar 13 2015 3:29PM
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BWalmer
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.frenchyawh shit I really liked the big dfd tho O________0

How big? Like 20 to the knuckle or smaller? bigger?


Yeah, about 20. Just got blunt 7 on it, so that size.

jackdonovandope! props and thanks for building it
will be there maybe saturday and definetly sunday


Sweet.
Mar 13 2015 3:38PM
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jackdonovan
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BWalmerYeah, about 20. Just got blunt 7 on it, so that size.


Thats dope
whats the rule/policy on flips?
want to know what i can throw
are flatspins okay?
are backflips okay?
frontflips?
Mar 13 2015 3:46PM
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BWalmer
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jackdonovanThats dope
whats the rule/policy on flips?
want to know what i can throw
are flatspins okay?
are backflips okay?
frontflips?


No backflips, frontflips or Lincoln loops. Flatspins are a grey area...basically don't let your feet go above your head.
Mar 13 2015 4:23PM
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BWalmerNo backflips, frontflips or Lincoln loops. Flatspins are a grey area...basically don't let your feet go above your head.



just wondering, why do some mountains allow flips and others dont? is it a liability thing? also....pics of the jump please!!!

how are things looking saturday weather wise....will the mountain still be open?
Mar 13 2015 4:29PM
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BWalmer
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shitpoopjust wondering, why do some mountains allow flips and others dont? is it a liability thing? also....pics of the jump please!!!

how are things looking saturday weather wise....will the mountain still be open?


Pretty much, yeah.

Photo:



Video for airtime:

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/761449/7


I'd call or check facebook before you come on Saturday...
Mar 13 2015 7:09PM
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.frenchy
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Closed today don't go.

After today the rest of this week is gonna be perfect weather , hell yea!
Mar 14 2015 7:33AM
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jackdonovan
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.frenchyClosed today don't go.

After today the rest of this week is gonna be perfect weather , hell yea!


open tomorrow for the ON3P demo though
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