Anyone read the book on Chris Kyles life? It is a movie now with Bradley Cooper. Should be interesting.
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las.This thread is hilarious. The film completely glorifies war, and paints the destruction of Iraq as some noble crusade by america against the evil that is Islam. It was/is far more complex than that, and not a black-and-white case of good vs evil.
Also not to mention that the film plays the leading character as some brave american superhero fighting for a just cause, when in reality chris kyle is a sadistic, racist asshole who openly admitted to enjoying killing human beings.
What is it with americas fetish for war and the constant need to distort history in its favour?
Bring on the downvotes, flag-waving rednecks
las.Bring on the downvotes, flag-waving rednecks
.ttelrab.Such a good and powerful movie. All the people that are saying that it glorifies war, demonizes Iraqis, etc apparently interpreted the movie very wrong. First, it shows how war made Chris Kyle a completely different person when he got home, with all of the PTSD stuff he goes through. Also, it doesn't "demonize Iraqis" whatsoever. Yeah, it demonizes the Taliban, but you'd have to be pretty dumb to think that was representing all Iraqi citizens.
las.This thread is hilarious. The film completely glorifies war, and paints the destruction of Iraq as some noble crusade by america against the evil that is Islam. It was/is far more complex than that, and not a black-and-white case of good vs evil.
Also not to mention that the film plays the leading character as some brave american superhero fighting for a just cause, when in reality chris kyle is a sadistic, racist asshole who openly admitted to enjoying killing human beings.
What is it with americas fetish for war and the constant need to distort history in its favour?
Bring on the downvotes, flag-waving rednecks
Barefootin_Fiendi was going to, but then I realized you're from the most irrelevant country on the planet.
las.This is another thing. Why is america so obsessed with trying to look superior all the time?
For the record, my irrelevant little dot of a country is one of the most progressive, least corrupt nations in the world, since you obviously want to turn this into a country vs country argument like you lot always do. If that means we're irrelevant, then so be it. I think your priorities and standards must be pretty fucking backwards, though.
Here's some advice: having the biggest military in the world doesn't make you #1, or better than anyone else (shock!). Only uncultured, narrow-minded, cowardly hillbillies like frenchy think so. You dont want to be like frenchy, do you?
Also, point proven. Downvote me, but don't refute what I say
las.This is another thing. Why is america so obsessed with trying to look superior all the time?But when you have the largest military in the world what country is going to actively challenge our self proclaimed status as number 1
For the record, my irrelevant little dot of a country is one of the most progressive, least corrupt nations in the world, since you obviously want to turn this into a country vs country argument like you lot always do. If that means we're irrelevant, then so be it. I think your priorities and standards must be pretty fucking backwards, though.
Here's some advice: having the biggest military in the world doesn't make you #1, or better than anyone else (shock!). Only uncultured, narrow-minded, cowardly hillbillies like frenchy think so. You dont want to be like frenchy, do you?
Also, point proven. Downvote me, but don't refute what I say
kshaughnSo what you're saying is that if America decided to invade New Zealand, New Zealand would become the 51st state? Gotcha.
las.This is another thing. Why is america so obsessed with trying to look superior all the time?
For the record, my irrelevant little dot of a country is one of the most progressive, least corrupt nations in the world, since you obviously want to turn this into a country vs country argument like you lot always do. If that means we're irrelevant, then so be it. I think your priorities and standards must be pretty fucking backwards, though.
Here's some advice: having the biggest military in the world doesn't make you #1, or better than anyone else (shock!). Only uncultured, narrow-minded, cowardly hillbillies like frenchy think so. You dont want to be like frenchy, do you?
Also, point proven. Downvote me, but don't refute what I say
las.This is another thing. Why is america so obsessed with trying to look superior all the time?
For the record, my irrelevant little dot of a country is one of the most progressive, least corrupt nations in the world, since you obviously want to turn this into a country vs country argument like you lot always do. If that means we're irrelevant, then so be it. I think your priorities and standards must be pretty fucking backwards, though.
Here's some advice: having the biggest military in the world doesn't make you #1, or better than anyone else (shock!). Only uncultured, narrow-minded, cowardly hillbillies like frenchy think so. You dont want to be like frenchy, do you?
Also, point proven. Downvote me, but don't refute what I say
cigIt was ok. I didnt like how he kept calling his wife mid battle. Although I didnt read the book I highly doubt that happened. It was honestly more of an action movie than a than a good war movie. Just my two cents
WoldsWorldThe people who are bashing on Kyle need to seriously STFU. You've never fought in a god damn war before, your all oblivious to the fact that fighting in a war exerts an unimaginable amount pressure/stress on you. That's why you hear about all these fucked up things that have happen in war. Contrary to your belief, but fucked up shit has happened in every single war fought through out the history of mankind, it's not just in the wars America is involved in. There is no humane or moral way to fight a war so stop acting like there is. Making a wrong decision in battle is something that happens all the time in war and its also something that has nothing to do with racism or bigotry. It's all instinct, aka a natural human behavior, and in a war it's more prevalent than ever because it's what you have to use if you expect to survive.
This movie really hits home for me so it really pisses me off when some dumb fuck behind a keyboard tries to label American vets as a bunch of trigger happy red neck murderer's. My long time girl friends brother, who was also a brother to me, just served on his first tour in Afghanistan as an army sniper last year. In August, two month's after his deployment ended, he committed suicide.
I noticed something was different about him after he got home from his tour. He wasn't the same happy-go-lucky kid that enjoyed to joke around and play pranks on people like he was before he left. I just figured that he'd toughened up because of his experience in the military. I thought that he'd simply grown from a kid into a man, I never thought that his change in behavior was actually because he was suffering from PTSD. I was aware of the fact that there are a lot of vets coming back from war with PTSD. However I never once thought that this problem with PTSD would directly effect me. After he died my girl friends family and I found out that he won a bunch on medals over there and that he saved the lives of his fellow soldiers on a couple occasions. I don't know any of the details or what happened, but according to his mom he had to kill a bunch of people in order to save his fellow soldiers lives. They all attended his funeral and even though non of them talked about what he did, you could just tell by the looks in their faces that he did something very important for them.
I can tell you first hand that it is very easy to convince yourself that your loved ones who go into war will return in one piece and will be mentally fine. Sadly there has been a lot of families here in America that have figured out the hard way that this is not the case. In reality, 1 out of 4 Iraqi War and Afghani War vets that return home end up killing themselves. That's how I know that our vets aren't savage murderer's, because if they were than we wouldn't be seeing them taking their own lives every day. What you don't understand is that there are a lot of vets that hate killing, so much so that they kill themselves to escape it. My little brother was an innocent 17 year old boy when he went off to war and it sucks that he died because of what he had to go through to survive. So before you criticize american vets next time, just let that thought float around in your mind. If you have even a little bit of a soul than you'll realize that you sound like a huge fucking douche bag.
las.Only uncultured, narrow-minded, cowardly hillbillies like frenchy think so. You dont want to be like frenchy, do you?
louie.miragsAs a veteran, this movie is propaganda. It glorifies the fuck out of war. And not to mention the actual dude was lying about his stories. If this movie makes you want to join the military then you are getting got... just like I did.
.frenchyLol what branch, and did you even see combat? Not a pretty good attitude for someone who was in the military, i'm gonna bet you joined the navy, just so they'd pay for school? The movie isn't suppose to make you wanna join, it's a story of his life, what parts of the movie was a lie?
.frenchyI'd love to hear the reason as to why you think i'm a hillbilly.... Hahahaha you fucking moron.
kshaughnDon't even bother. His country's main export is fish and dairy and heavily rely on the US for imports. Also, Bill Gates could single-handedly buy half of New Zealand right now.
las.This is another thing. Why is america so obsessed with trying to look superior all the time?
For the record, my irrelevant little dot of a country is one of the most progressive, least corrupt nations in the world, since you obviously want to turn this into a country vs country argument like you lot always do. If that means we're irrelevant, then so be it. I think your priorities and standards must be pretty fucking backwards, though.
Here's some advice: having the biggest military in the world doesn't make you #1, or better than anyone else (shock!). Only uncultured, narrow-minded, cowardly hillbillies like frenchy think so. You dont want to be like frenchy, do you?
Also, point proven. Downvote me, but don't refute what I say
.frenchyLol what branch, and did you even see combat? Not a pretty good attitude for someone who was in the military, i'm gonna bet you joined the navy, just so they'd pay for school? The movie isn't suppose to make you wanna join, it's a story of his life, what parts of the movie was a lie?
saw it last night, fucking SICK movie.
louie.miragsOh yeah and it is not a bad opinion for a veteran. A lot of the people i've seen saying fuck that glorifying war bullshit have been veterans (unlike you talking out of your ass). And yes I joined the navy and volunteered for submarines. And no it is not an accurate story of his life. The guy was a bullshitter. And your hoo-yah bullshit and you do not know the first thing about the military. It is quite comical to say the least...
And people may think you're a hill billy because you're not very bright, fly a confederate flag in Connecticut and listen to Pop music (mainstream country). You're a wannabe redneck at best tbh.
.frenchyActually I do know a good amount about the military? My bro in law has been in the navy for 4 years and is currently on deployment and i'm joining the military as well at the end of this semester?
LOL I've never flown a confederate flag in my life.... that makes your whole argument invalid. Hahahaha. Wanna be redneck? I'm not a redneck nor do I think that I am, fly a confederate flag off of what? My 2004 Sentra? Man, you're a fucking idiot. It's really a shame you're trying to shit on a guy like Chris Kyle, it truely is, he was a true American and saved more lives than your pussy ass did or ever will, so how about you show some respect instead of saying that the movie was all lies.... You seem like the type to get dis-honorably discharged for being a little cunt. you're a piece of shit at best tbh
louie.miragshttp://www.vulture.com/2015/01/real-american-snipers-5-alleged-lies.html
No. I did not get dishonorably discharged. They paid for my college and and rent for years. If you knew about the military you would understand that. True american hero? give me a fucking break
.frenchyI know they pay for school, that's what I said earlier... You probably went just to get school paid for, but some, like Chris Kyle, join for more than that, because they love their country. Yes, he is an American hero.... Do you know how many soldiers and other innocent civilians he has saved? A ton.
louie.miragsOk man I don't want to get in another pissing match with ya. It is funny though how mad ya get.. I bet that if we chilled in person we'd have a lot more in common than ya think. All I want people who think he is a hero to take a step back and answer what are we fighting for? How many innocent civilians have we murdered? Is he really fighting for freedom? Somebody said this earlier but if they are fighting for OUR freedom, then why do we have less freedoms these days? It doesn't make any sense. There is a lot of blood on America's hands and it is fucking ugly. I am happy I got out when I did and was able to put to form my own opinions. If you're the type of guy who likes being told what to do and having pride they instilled in you to trick you into be willing to die for unknown reasons then enjoy!
louie.miragsOk man I don't want to get in another pissing match with ya. It is funny though how mad ya get.. I bet that if we chilled in person we'd have a lot more in common than ya think. All I want people who think he is a hero to take a step back and answer what are we fighting for? How many innocent civilians have we murdered? Is he really fighting for freedom? Somebody said this earlier but if they are fighting for OUR freedom, then why do we have less freedoms these days? It doesn't make any sense. There is a lot of blood on America's hands and it is fucking ugly. I am happy I got out when I did and was able to put to form my own opinions. If you're the type of guy who likes being told what to do and having pride they instilled in you to trick you into be willing to die for unknown reasons then enjoy!
H.Scorpio'master sniper' and he doesn't even do a single 360 no scope. 2/10 would not watch again.
louie.miragsSince you are somebody who has not served a minute in any branch I recommend quitting while you're ahead.
H.ScorpioAlso, I saw Bradley Cooper at a grocery store in Los Angeles a couple weeks back. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn't want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.
He said, "Oh, like you're doing now?"
I was taken aback, and all I could say was "Huh?" but he kept cutting me off and going "huh? huh? huh?" and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like "Sir, you need to pay for those first." At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually "to prevent any electrical infetterence," and then turned around and winked at me. I don't even think that's a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
louie.miragsAll I want people who think he is a hero to take a step back and answer what are we fighting for?
H.ScorpioAlso, I saw Bradley Cooper at a grocery store in Los Angeles a couple weeks back. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn't want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.
He said, "Oh, like you're doing now?"
I was taken aback, and all I could say was "Huh?" but he kept cutting me off and going "huh? huh? huh?" and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like "Sir, you need to pay for those first." At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually "to prevent any electrical infetterence," and then turned around and winked at me. I don't even think that's a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
.frenchyWow what a chode.... Didn't know he was like that, BUT..... You shouldn't let his attitude affect how you feel about the movie, Clint put together a really good movie and I thought Bradley Cooper did an amazing job acting. Too bad he's a fuck in private I guess
kshaughnDon't blame the soldiers if you disagree with a war. It wasn't Chris Kyle's decision to start the war in Iraq, he was just doing his job. He loved this country and joined the military to protect it and it's citizens. Getting pissed at soldiers because you disagree with the war they are involved in is such a stupid thing to do. Be angry at the politicians if you don't like it, but Chris Kyle just went over there to follow his orders and make sure as many Americans came back home as possible.
Davinso what did you serve as? MP or something?
WoldsWorldThe people who are bashing on Kyle need to seriously STFU. You've never fought in a god damn war before, your all oblivious to the fact that fighting in a war exerts an unimaginable amount pressure/stress on you. That's why you hear about all these fucked up things that have happen in war. Contrary to your belief, but fucked up shit has happened in every single war fought through out the history of mankind, it's not just in the wars America is involved in. There is no humane or moral way to fight a war so stop acting like there is. Making a wrong decision in battle is something that happens all the time in war and its also something that has nothing to do with racism or bigotry. It's all instinct, aka a natural human behavior, and in a war it's more prevalent than ever because it's what you have to use if you expect to survive.
This movie really hits home for me so it really pisses me off when some dumb fuck behind a keyboard tries to label American vets as a bunch of trigger happy red neck murderer's. My long time girl friends brother, who was also a brother to me, just served on his first tour in Afghanistan as an army sniper last year. In August, two month's after his deployment ended, he committed suicide.
I noticed something was different about him after he got home from his tour. He wasn't the same happy-go-lucky kid that enjoyed to joke around and play pranks on people like he was before he left. I just figured that he'd toughened up because of his experience in the military. I thought that he'd simply grown from a kid into a man, I never thought that his change in behavior was actually because he was suffering from PTSD. I was aware of the fact that there are a lot of vets coming back from war with PTSD. However I never once thought that this problem with PTSD would directly effect me. After he died my girl friends family and I found out that he won a bunch on medals over there and that he saved the lives of his fellow soldiers on a couple occasions. I don't know any of the details or what happened, but according to his mom he had to kill a bunch of people in order to save his fellow soldiers lives. They all attended his funeral and even though non of them talked about what he did, you could just tell by the looks in their faces that he did something very important for them.
I can tell you first hand that it is very easy to convince yourself that your loved ones who go into war will return in one piece and will be mentally fine. Sadly there has been a lot of families here in America that have figured out the hard way that this is not the case. In reality, 1 out of 4 Iraqi War and Afghani War vets that return home end up killing themselves. That's how I know that our vets aren't savage murderer's, because if they were than we wouldn't be seeing them taking their own lives every day. What you don't understand is that there are a lot of vets that hate killing, so much so that they kill themselves to escape it. My little brother was an innocent 17 year old boy when he went off to war and it sucks that he died because of what he had to go through to survive. So before you criticize american vets next time, just let that thought float around in your mind. If you have even a little bit of a soul than you'll realize that you sound like a huge fucking douche bag.
JOP177Just saw it - what a powerful movie. Never been in a full theater that empties without a single person saying a word.
KravtZThe mood leaving it is essentially leaving his funeral.
CONAIR_BUSCEMIIt was a good movie, far from great. The plot was very disjointed and the movie falsified aspects of Chris Kyle’s book. If you read his book and do a tad bit of research you would know that Chris Kyle was a very shady guy.
.frenchy1. You saying it was a good movie is an opinion.... So just stop.
2. I know a lot about the guy and have for a couple years, I bet you're a shady guy as well. I'd be happy to be 1/2 the man that he was.
CONAIR_BUSCEMIDo you know him personally and have you read his book?
.frenchyDo YOU know him personally and no shit I've read his book. I'm done here this is pointless arguing over this, he was a hero. and that's a fact.