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BombogenesisWell I don't know how that post came across as unhappy lol... And I've been posting for sever years at a lower rate than ever but do you care to refute my claims instead of just telling me that I'm dumb? It does nothing to substantiate your argument.
hey-dude-its-meI dont want to argue bc I dont care, Im just saying you come across as someone who is generaly unhappy like youve been slighted by life and youre trying to use that as youre driving force, in your mind you're righting wrongs and what you say makes total sense but you just seem really sad and angry that youre sad
Bombogenesislol... Because I said that climate change was far from the human races most dire challenge.
Yeah..
hey-dude-its-mefake lol and delusional reasoning, really proving me wrong. Youve taken standardized tests, you know where you stand. you're not a smart guy.
UtardWow. This thread is the fucking parade of NS idiots.
All of you who are bitching about how the marchers aren't doing anything: the same activists are going to try to shut down the NYSE tomorrow so shut up.
UtardWow. This thread is the fucking parade of NS idiots.
All of you who are bitching about how the marchers aren't doing anything: the same activists are going to try to shut down the NYSE tomorrow so shut up.
UtardAll of you who are bitching about how the marchers aren't doing anything: the same activists are going to try to shut down the NYSE tomorrow so shut up.
WattsThis is honestly the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
I don't understand, do they blame the stock exchange for global warming? Do they think the stock exchangers are the ones who make the laws in our country? Did they watch The Dark Knight Rises one too many times and decide to become terrorists like Bane to get what they want?
*DUMBCAN*No, they're just the 'it's unfair that people who do hard jobs and make millions of dollars for their companies get paid more than I do for making shitty cappuccinos in starbucks' crowd.
Back to topic.
If you care about how the global environment will be damaged by global warming (it will, it's not even a question), don't go on a fucking march. Take it as motivation and go and do something about it. Go back to school, get educated in science, and start to solve the fucking problems. People aren't just going to suddenly say "I'm not going to drive everywhere anymore" or "maybe I should stop buying imported strawberries in the fucking winter". Every problem has an elegant solution that benefits everyone, and their are lots of fucking problems so we need more people solving them.
BombogenesisItt: people who repeatedly claim others are dumb but claim they "don't care" when asked to back up their assertions :p
BombogenesisThis is a fucking retarded post. I'm on my phone so I'm not going to tell you why it's a retarded post, but if you would like to know I can type
BombogenesisThis is a fucking retarded post. I'm on my phone so I'm not going to tell you why it's a retarded post, but if you would like to know I can type you something later telling you why this post was on par with a three year old who sticks Legos in his nose in terms of intelligence.
MikeVicksTOPDOGHey man, its great that you have your own opinion but for god sake please don't use the world "retarded". There are a million other words you could have used to describe that post. Think about it dude if an NSer came on here that was mentally challenged and saw that you used his/her disability as a derogatory statement that person would probably A: Feel like shit B: Never want to visit this website again or C: loose faith in the skiing community or maybe even humanity because some people cannot come to realize how lucky they really have it.
hey-dude-its-meand the fact that people like you who are committed to being on the wrong side only dig in further doesn't really matter bc your side gets smaller every minute as young people become educated and old people die
Standardized tests
caucasian_chadDo New Yorkers even know what the environment is?
DERS.holy shit so many ignorant fucks im not even gonna try this time... but to anyone who doesn't think it is the the most important issue humanity has ever faced, you are brainwashed.
but good for you OP. unfortunately to see any real changes it would have to be a protest bigger than anything before, and across the whole globe.
shibbyyeah i actually came here hoping to read ANY form of interesting discussion on the issue...then i remembered i was on NS. its always idiots saying shit like "liberal hippie morons" or trying to one up each other with stupid jokes.
this planet is our most beautiful gift but we only have one, any movement or group trying to promote that kind of message is all good in my books.
shibbyyeah i actually came here hoping to read ANY form of interesting discussion on the issue...then i remembered i was on NS. its always idiots saying shit like "liberal hippie morons" or trying to one up each other with stupid jokes.
this planet is our most beautiful gift but we only have one, any movement or group trying to promote that kind of message is all good in my books.
theabortionatorI love our planet and want to see it protected. That's why it pisses me off that the whole "environmental movement" couldn't care less about the oceans, the trees, all their garbage, as long as they drive a prius to work or whatever else.
shibbyits not a zero sum game though. an whether they do it for the right or wrong reasons who cares, its still better than doing nothing (or bitching about it on a ski website)
Jeebus.Climate change doesn't exist you dumb hippy.
http://nypost.com/2014/09/14/leo-v-science-vanishing-evidence-for-climate-change/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJ-1iL9g8nU
shibbyits not a zero sum game though. an whether they do it for the right or wrong reasons who cares, its still better than doing nothing (or bitching about it on a ski website)
WoldsWorldI don't know
*DUMBCAN*sums up most of your post.
Predicting global or large regional long term climate shifts is very different from predicting the next rainfall, because you're more concerned with averages than the current status. Also current computer models do take into account the predicted output from the sun (changes don't make anything like the impact some claim), they do take into account the weakening of the earths magnetic field, and they do take into account normal volcanic activity. A problem here is that natural CO2 emissions are going to be far worse than predicted - many models underestimated the amount and rate at which CO2 trapped underneath Siberian permafrost and Antartarctica shall be released.
If you want to know more I shall have to ask my env-chem friends, it's not my speciality. Too much memorising and not enough math.
Also, for your consideration:
You're right, predicting global or large regional long term climate shifts is very different from predicting the next rainfall in that its much more difficult to predict long term climate shifts. I disagree with your claim that changes in solar activity don't make a significant impact on our Earth's climate though. I've taken a lot of classes on astro-geology, which pretty much entails astro-climatology as well because the geology and the climate of any terrestrial celestial body that has an atmosphere are intwined with one another, and know for a fact that solar radiation plays a huge role in how a celestial bodies climate is composed. Mars is a prime example of how solar winds can devastate a planets atmosphere and its geological activity. The sun is pretty much the primary reason as to why Mars is what I like to call a dead planet. The runaway icehouse effect with its atmosphere resulted in its surface being bombarded with solar radiation thus the planets magma core literally froze into solid rock. If the core of a terrestrial celestial body freezes than its game over because the core is what fuels convection and a celestial bodies convection currents keep its magnetic field and atmosphere in-tact. Thats why I don't underestimate the suns potential.
I wasn't aware that the current models did take those in to account so thanks for updating me on that. However I highly doubt that these predictions are even remotely accurate. I just can't wrap my mind around how we could accurately measure the amount of CO2 all of these natural variables are emitting. That truly is an impossible task in my mind.
This whole argument about anthropogenic gases and their influence on climate change really is useless and it really is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. The system is insanely complex and most models (even though I question their integrity) already project we are beyond the tipping point for climate change. It is going to happen whether we want it to or not and I didn't need a computer model to tell me that. Problem is it will likely be more drastic than it currently is projected because of what you alluded to in that nobody can accurately predict what will happen given the complexity and that our the natural CO2 being emitted is likely greater than what we expect. That's why our primary goal shouldn't be reducing our carbon footprint, it should be how were going to adapt to these changes that are inevitably coming no matter what we do. I do think that its important to become more environmentally self-sufficient as a global society because that without a doubt would be a good thing. But to have that as our primary goal is redundant because climate change is without a doubt happening wether we like it or not.
MLBAmerica....and most of the modern world aren't going to do a damn thing about global warming because fossil based energy is just so cheep.
When fossil fuels run out....that will be the only time anything changes. When it starts to effect you pocket book, only then are we going to see more solar power plans, rotor driven hydro electric generators, and hydrogen cells.
The technology already exists, but we as humans are just way too fucking ignorant to use it.
WoldsWorldMy research
WoldsWorldis also bull shit
WoldsWorldPS
WoldsWorldthere is no denying
WoldsWorldanthropogenic gases and their influence on climate change
Utard.
WoldsWorldu
WoldsWorldmad
WoldsWorldbro
WoldsWorld?
Utard.
WoldsWorldI don't think that its because were too ignorant. I just think that its because most of us aren't financially able too. I think its safe to assume that the majority can't afford an electric car (which still aren't 100% environmentally friendly in any sense of the word). I can barely afford to put gas in my 20 year old beater so I know I sure as hell can't. How is your average American suppose to tell their power companies that they want to power their homes through wind or solar energy? Its not that we choose not to, its just that we can't. It's as simple as that.
Climate change is going to happen regardless if we stop using fossil fuels as our main source of energy or not though so it really doesn't fucking matter.
MLBThat whole statement is just a giant scape goat. It's like saying you know smoking gives you cancer, but it's not going to hurt you right now....so you smoke anyways.
All cars are going to be electric someday....why not start the infrastructure to support those vehicles now?
When fossil fuels run out....the world's economies will collapse if we stay on this course. The country that uses those alternate energy technologies to power it's nation will be a superpower.
We as a group if human beings choose not to do those things. They make our air cleaner, will allow us to live longer on this planet, make humans healthier, and slow the effect if global warming ( which is cause by humans.....it's a fact backed by more data then I can produce right here)
Utardhttp://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php
just look at it please
louie.miragsthe problem is I can find multiple websites that would call that site false... On the internet we can find like minded opinions that blur the truth.
UtardThat's why it's nice that the reply to every argument links to a webpage with sources that direct readers toward articles in scientific journals yeah?
UtardThat's why it's nice that the reply to every argument links to a webpage with sources that direct readers toward articles in scientific journals yeah?
MyEggoIsPreggo5Not really one to support or believe in global warming causes because 1. I think it has to do with heating and cooling cycles and 2. the "cause" CO2 emmisions have increased 10% since 1997 where as warming rates have slowed way down since the late 1990s
However "scape goat" is not the right term. you can spew the moral side of it we owe it to the planet blah blah blah but at the end of the day its not financially plauseable yet. Because in the world we live in a vast majority of our population will do whatever it takes to save a dollar here or there.
Regardless on a larger scale America and the European union pump a ridiculous amount of money into this cause and as described by A SCIENTIST ON THE UN TEAM is recorded as saying we wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
Now connecting that little rant, that will probably result in lots of youre a brain washed idiot with a 3rd grade education comments, back with the original post i do not believe that this issue is one that can be solved or one the is relevant enough right now to where we should be worried. As a nation our foreign affairs are in my opinion much more of a problem right now.
