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Looking for something slightly stiffer than the JJ

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M2017Ridges
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The title really says it all. I currently own a pair of 175 JJ's which are a little small for me (6'1-ish, 160lbs). I've really loved them these past two years and think they're a great ski. However, last season I began to ski much more aggressively than I have in seasons past, and started to have a slight problem with the ski kicking out from under me when I begin a hard turn. As a result, I've began to look at something slightly stiffer/more cambered than the JJ. So far I've considered

-2015 Bent Chetler
-Moment Bibby Pro
-Automatic
-Magic J
-JJ 2.0

...or simply a longer JJ. The only doubt I have about a longer JJ is that the added length won't quite be enough to give me the added stability. My usual ski area has nice snow ~%70 of the time, but I don't want anything that handles too much worse than the JJ on ice/hard off piste. I've already come to terms with the fact that carving isn't for me, I prefer the playful, buttery style anyway, so that isn't a concern. Any input would be appreciated, thanks!
Sep 6 2014 9:23PM
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dbchili
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Sep 6 2014 9:56PM
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Jahseph.
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i rode next years Bentchetlers this past spring and absolutely loved them. spent most of the day riding them at true center on groomers and they felt super solid even when skiing at speed

Personally I'm torn between them or the magnum opus with A/T bindings
Sep 6 2014 11:26PM
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M2017Ridges
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@dbchili
The only issue I would have with Caylor's is the large turning radius. I forgot to mention it, but I do ski a fair amount of bumps and trees. However, i'll keep them in mind when looking, as I hadn't seen them before and they do look really fun.

@Jahseph
These are the skis I've most seriously considered. Maybe I'm just a sucker for newer styles, but they look really fun almost anywhere. Did you ski on any ice with them? If so, did they feel too slippery at all?
Sep 6 2014 11:33PM
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vote4pedro
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My penis is quite stiff
Sep 6 2014 11:45PM
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toastyteenagers
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M2017Ridges@dbchili
The only issue I would have with Caylor's is the large turning radius. I forgot to mention it, but I do ski a fair amount of bumps and trees. However, i'll keep them in mind when looking, as I hadn't seen them before and they do look really fun.

@Jahseph
These are the skis I've most seriously considered. Maybe I'm just a sucker for newer styles, but they look really fun almost anywhere. Did you ski on any ice with them? If so, did they feel too slippery at all?

You must be new here.

if you don't need the twin tips, the rossi 7 series makea some seriously good skis, try the storm 7
Sep 7 2014 1:47AM
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SpookyCat
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umm.... the AK JJ? You know the model that's exactly like the JJ but stiffer?
Sep 7 2014 1:59AM
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M2017Ridges
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@Railersailer
Yea...just a little new :). The storm 7 is just a little too thin for me, but the Soul 7 appears to be more in my wheelhouse. Have you ever skied on it?

@JenniferGarner
Ah, this would be the dream. Unfortunately, the AK JJ only comes in a 195, which is just too long for me.
Sep 7 2014 12:48PM
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SpookyCat
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M2017Ridges@JenniferGarner
Ah, this would be the dream. Unfortunately, the AK JJ only comes in a 195, which is just too long for me.



Sep 7 2014 4:37PM
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dbchili
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M2017Ridges@dbchili
The only issue I would have with Caylor's is the large turning radius. I forgot to mention it, but I do ski a fair amount of bumps and trees. However, i'll keep them in mind when looking, as I hadn't seen them before and they do look really fun.


fair enough. I have the 2010/11's and i'll admit the turning radius is quite large. I also find them more on the bulldozer side of a jib powder ski compared to the snappier but less stable feel of the JJ, but I prefer my skis that way.

That being said, they've changed things up significantly this year and the jeffrey 114 replaces the caylor which im sure has a shorter turning radius (i know they closed the radius from the old jef to the 108 kartels, so i'd expect the same with the 114s). Look into it, might be what you're looking for. Either way i own 3 pairs of on3ps now and you really can't beat the build quality
Sep 7 2014 4:48PM
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HuckNorris44
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Nordica Helldorado's are pretty stiff skis (sheet of metal in them). Tiny, tiny bit smaller than the JJ in the waste but they'll rip through anything
Sep 7 2014 7:09PM
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.FRY.
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vote4pedroMy penis is quite stiff


don't you mean your va jay jay?
Sep 7 2014 7:29PM
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M2017Ridges
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@Gnarco
These look almost exactly like what i'm looking for.

However, my eye has been caught by the Mr. Pollard's Opus, and I've almost settled on those. The combination of length, camber, and contact should be enough to stop them from kicking out while still retaining the playfull-ness and short turn radius of the JJ.
Sep 7 2014 8:05PM
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japanada
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187 HOJIs! Stiff enough for crushing it anywhere, long turing radius when on edge, but the full rocker always for awesome nimbleness in the trees and bumps. Not exactly a butter machine, but def can be thrown around.
Sep 7 2014 8:13PM
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LC.
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2013 or 2014 Bent Chetlers for cheap.
Sep 8 2014 4:20AM
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