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last_tangoWhen i was out east camber was needed in order to try to even get your edge to set. I really tried to stay away from any rocker just because it was more ski with less effective edge. In order to make the ski have more effective edge with rocker i found myself sizeing up above 180 for myself and that becomes a problem skiing tight ass billy goating tree lines in the east that are not gladed. Moguls are also easier to ski with that 180s.
I found a 90 waist to 95 to not be difficult to roll over on edge and didnt sacrafice edge control compared to a 80 waist park ski. With a 90 waist as well i noticed much better float on days where it actually snows a little and you are thankfull just to get toe shots. If it went above toes/ankles deep i would get my pow sticks out.
Tl;dr a full camber twin tip ski with a 95ish waist. Flex is defined on how playful you want to be.
Gr0moAR7
Seriously the best ALL mountain east coast ski. I have mine mounted at -2.5 and they rip. Steeps, moguls, trees, boiler plate ice, oh and did i forget something? yea they slay hard in the park.
Only down side to them is they are a little on the stiff side particularly in the tail. If you like popping tail butters forget about it. the carbon stinger in the tail makes the pretty much impossible. Although it does make the ski super forgiving on backseat landings so it's a give and take.
ZachAndCheeseUnpopular ski but I love the Kastle James. Ski fucking rips in all East Coast conditions. Super fun ski. Uber durable and it slays the park. The skis graphics suck ass though and the price was a bit steep.
Gr0moAR7
Seriously the best ALL mountain east coast ski. I have mine mounted at -2.5 and they rip. Steeps, moguls, trees, boiler plate ice, oh and did i forget something? yea they slay hard in the park.
Only down side to them is they are a little on the stiff side particularly in the tail. If you like popping tail butters forget about it. the carbon stinger in the tail makes the pretty much impossible. Although it does make the ski super forgiving on backseat landings so it's a give and take.
tomPietrowskiYeah ar7'a are pretty much what you described op. They are not that stiff especially after you ride them a while but seeing how your on the smaller side you could get the thall whic is the same shape just slightly softer in the tip and tail. And -2.5 really I probably the best place to mount them but if you want them centred go for it I originally mounted my thalls -2.5 but ended up moving them to center as tey were too soft for all mnt for me so I just used them in the park.
WattsYour title is pretty misleading, as you say everyday ski, but then ask about park skis in your post. Those generally aren't considered the same thing, just so you know.
As far as recommendations go, I'd also say the AR7. Though it won't do things outside the park as well as many others skis out there will, it does a pretty good job for a ski that really excels in the park, and more or less matches your size/flex/build specifications.
snowballsdeepi had some el rays and they seem very similar to the ar7.. i hated them as well as 3 or 4 other armada skis with the same side wall construction and i don't like the response of the ski compared to classic side wall. but my magic J's.. aw ma lawd, yes.
tomPietrowskiThe el ray if full cap if I remember rightly. The ar7 uses the 50/50 sidewall cap. In my opinion this is the best way to make a park ski. You the sidewall underfoot for carving and edge protection then you have the cap tip and tail which softens them up, lowers the swing weight an improves the durability. Personally this build is I think the best option currently. If your after a full sidewall ski maybe look at the on3p prestor but remember any full sidewall ski will be heavier in swing weight and be more prone to delaminate.
snowballsdeepum i think they were, but i have also had the halo and alpha's that had the 50/50 side wall, yes swing weight is insanely light on them but the wash out on hard landings and do not carve for shit. great design for a pow ski, not a park ski. i know the east coast rep for armada so ill take some ar7s out for a demo when the snow falls.
tomPietrowskiTh washing out is due to the rocker on those skis. Neither is a particularly stable ski due to the longer rocker. The ar7 will prevent you washing out so muc due to I having much more camber. This will also mean they pop a lot harder. Give them a try but I would think those or maybe te punx will suit you very well.
snowballsdeeppunxs are soooo heavy but bomb proof and meet everything i want but the weight
Bum.LifeDid you pay 1K for those? I know most of their skis are around that price range
snowballsdeepi don't need you to educate me on skiing I'm going on 20 years on sliding sticks.
WattsSee, you say that, yet you seem to think that "everyday ski" is synonymous with "park ski that doesn't suck too much outside the park." I think most skiers would agree those two are not, in fact, the same.
There's always more to learn. Don't be so quick to judge yourself omniscient when it comes to skiing.
snowballsdeepOn this site where i am asking this question, it will be few and far between that ride anything but a park ski; outside of pow days. my question is relevant in this instance, now if this was on some other site not Newschoolers i realize that there would be some confusion. but here park skis are peoples everyday ski. However that may not be true for you, i realize that, but I'm not catering to the 1%. but I'm also not seeing your posts being helpful or relevant in my thread.
a_pla5tic_bagAn everyday ski to someone in the NS demographic on the lower east coast is definitely a park ski. Actually it's probably your only ski. There's basically no reason to ski anything that's not almost all camber and narrow since all there is is fake snow, shitty snow, or ice. I would ever only own to pairs of skis here, a park ski that's sub 90 in the wist with a smaller tun radius that's pretty soft for skiing everything. And then a non twin slalom ski for when it's night time and everything becomes bulletproof ice. Falling on ice and in the inevitable snowboarder bomb holes at the end of all ride on 50-50 features that snowboarders use hurts a lot so I don't even bother with the park at night, might as well just try and hit mach5 on the ice. If you're in vermont or something then an everyday ski would be different.
tl;dr Op needs to specify where on the east coast he is.
snowballsdeepI'v pretty much narrowed it down to the on3p filthy rich, j skis inspired, or amplid syntax, all are more then what i want to pay but i guess i just have to commit to it. what do you guys think of these.
IBAMNone of them are bad choices, I actually don't know much about the Syntax though. The FR has some real rocker to it, just something to think about.
Another ski that might be an idea: the K2 Recoil. 90 mm underfoot, medium -stiff flex, camber with early rise rocker, though it skis, in my experience, like it has very little to no rocker. Some decent sidewalls, but it's not incredibly light.
Anyways, the FR would be a good choice, as world J but I don't personally know anyone who has skied that shape of Js
snowballsdeepya i know, i think the FR will be to much rocker for me, and i think the syntax will be to stiff , so I'm pretty set on j skis now due to the return them after the first 3 days of ridding if you don't like them. but i don't love any of the graphics that are out now, i would love to find some older tropic thunders
mta1741How about Talismans, by Revision ski company. They split off from epic planks because they thought they could do better. I know some east coasters ride talismans and love them , specifically sam zahner. Take a look and tell me what you think. https://revisionskis.com/skis/
skiRay2nd gen Moment Bibbys. 09-10' i believe
GeorgiaJibberI think you would like the on3p prester homeboi, full camber and its bomb proof, but it might be a bit stiff
snowballsdeepthey look like exactly what i was looking for, sick ski. but i can't trust a company that iv never heard of with 400$ on skis iv never seen before. I'm stoked to watch what happens with them though!
mta1741code sam14 gives you 10% off plus free shipping, so like 65-70 dollars off
snowballsdeepsick thanks man, but I'm still waiting to see where the company goes. the ski i pick is as much about the company as the ski itself. i just don't know the build quality or customer service, and I'm not willing to be the test dummy.
snowballsdeepya i know, i think the FR will be to much rocker for me, and i think the syntax will be to stiff , so I'm pretty set on j skis now due to the return them after the first 3 days of ridding if you don't like them. but i don't love any of the graphics that are out now, i would love to find some older tropic thunders
DarthVaderI know too many east coast NS'ers who ride Kartels and Filthys as well as other rockered park skis everyday. Bummer you can't demo, I think it would really help put some points on your map.
Evan.AI ski rails on the east coast every day and I wouldn't want a different ski then the chronic. They are super light and pretty good in all conditions you can have on the east coast. Judging by what your saying line chronics pretty much fit your description.
ZachAndCheeseUnpopular ski but I love the Kastle James. Ski fucking rips in all East Coast conditions. Super fun ski. Uber durable and it slays the park. The skis graphics suck ass though and the price was a bit steep.
KravtZDemo'd the entire lineup basically last year on a demo day. Amazing quality and really stable skis. Would have bought a pair so fast if price wasn't $1000+. Really a next level ski company. The "twin tips" they make ski very very fast and can hold an edge better than most other all mtn skis. One day though...
