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Music for edits ( YouTube & copyright)

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Ftacnik
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Please forgive me (+ insert link) if this has been discussed here before, it's been a while since I've been on NS. I've googled this multiple times with no real answers and need some help.

Basically, I'm tired of making edits, synced to my favorite music just to have the audio stripped when uploading to YouTube. I've thought about using Vimeo but the free version won't handle my files and I'm not ready to pay for an account. I see edits from big name people (& amateurs) with some pretty popular music and I'm wondering how everyone gets away with it?

I've tried using some pretty underground artists and still no luck. Looked for a bunch of royalty free music and couldn't find what I was looking for. I'm at the point where I might just start using my own stuff made in Logic but it's too time consuming for every edit.

I know there's sites like this (https://www.songfreedom.com) which I'll be using for all of my paid work but when it comes to personal (skiing) work I'm not all that interested in dropping the $$$.

I understand using anyone's music without permission is violating copyrights blah blah blah.

Any help/advice/insight is appreciated.

Thanks
Sep 1 2014 11:27PM
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S.J.W
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Upload the video straight to NS, not vimeo or youtube.
Sep 1 2014 11:30PM
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eheath
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Upload to NS!


But if I may ask, hows does vimeo not handle your video files?
Sep 1 2014 11:36PM
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Ftacnik
Posts: 1997 - Karma: 111
pussyfooterUpload to NS!


But if I may ask, hows does vimeo not handle your video files?


As much as I hate NS video player, you guys are freakin' genius (or I'm really dumb)

The max upload size is 500mb per day on a free vimeo account. I may be exporting my files incorrectly but my most recent 1 minute edit (1080p) is over a GB. I've also heard that vimeo is a lot more strict on music copyright lately as well.
Sep 1 2014 11:41PM
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S.J.W
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FtacnikAs much as I hate NS video player, you guys are freakin' genius (or I'm really dumb)

The max upload size is 500mb per day on a free vimeo account. I may be exporting my files incorrectly but my most recent 1 minute edit (1080p) is over a GB. I've also heard that vimeo is a lot more strict on music copyright lately as well.


Vimeo has recently made their copyright issues a lot more strict, however a one minute video should not be a GB. I'm no expert on edits, made the occasional one here and there, but your video should be a GB. You're doing something wrong.
Sep 1 2014 11:46PM
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eheath
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FtacnikAs much as I hate NS video player, you guys are freakin' genius (or I'm really dumb)

The max upload size is 500mb per day on a free vimeo account. I may be exporting my files incorrectly but my most recent 1 minute edit (1080p) is over a GB. I've also heard that vimeo is a lot more strict on music copyright lately as well.


A 1 minute edit shouldn't be more than 100MB, just saying. Exporting an edit at more than 10mbps is just a waste of space my dude, online players compress the shit out of your video no matter how you compressed it.
Sep 1 2014 11:56PM
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Forcillo
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FtacnikAs much as I hate NS video player, you guys are freakin' genius (or I'm really dumb)

The max upload size is 500mb per day on a free vimeo account. I may be exporting my files incorrectly but my most recent 1 minute edit (1080p) is over a GB. I've also heard that vimeo is a lot more strict on music copyright lately as well.


Check your export settings. It sounds like you may be exporting to Prores 422, which produces larger files. I'm guessing you're in FCP? I would suggest exporting to h.264 to get a smaller file without losing much if any quality.
Sep 1 2014 11:59PM
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Ftacnik
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pussyfooterA 1 minute edit shouldn't be more than 100MB, just saying. Exporting an edit at more than 10mbps is just a waste of space my dude, online players compress the shit out of your video no matter how you compressed it.


Ahh, good to know. Thank you.


ForcilloCheck your export settings. It sounds like you may be exporting to Prores 422, which produces larger files. I'm guessing you're in FCP? I would suggest exporting to h.264 to get a smaller file without losing much if any quality.


Yep, I was exporting as Proress 422 from FCP. Thanks for the advice, I'll give it a try.
Sep 2 2014 12:06AM
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zerospinskier
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Vimeo just recently changed their rules and added an automated copyrighted detector that checks new videos being uploaded, so everyone making little edits that get hundreds of views is done for. They haven't started going through old content yet, but if they do 90% of the content will be removed.....
Sep 3 2014 7:08PM
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eheath
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zerospinskierVimeo just recently changed their rules and added an automated copyrighted detector that checks new videos being uploaded, so everyone making little edits that get hundreds of views is done for. They haven't started going through old content yet, but if they do 90% of the content will be removed.....


Myself and many others have uploaded videos since them that have gotten 10k views and nothing happened. Vimeo is no where near the level of youtube.
Sep 3 2014 7:35PM
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SIMPLE.
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FtacnikAs much as I hate NS video player, you guys are freakin' genius (or I'm really dumb)

The max upload size is 500mb per day on a free vimeo account. I may be exporting my files incorrectly but my most recent 1 minute edit (1080p) is over a GB. I've also heard that vimeo is a lot more strict on music copyright lately as well.

Your clearly not exporting at the right settings. Look up how to compress the files for Vimeo. Also if u have premiere its super easy and is done upon export by using h.264 codec and Vimeo player size (dont quote me on that codec. Its H. Something or rather) you can also do this in fcp but dont have an overpriced computer so I don't use fcp.
Sep 3 2014 8:51PM
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SIMPLE.
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pussyfooterMyself and many others have uploaded videos since them that have gotten 10k views and nothing happened. Vimeo is no where near the level of youtube.


Although we dont get 10k views like our pal eheath, we've gotten 1k plus and haven't had any issues
Sep 3 2014 8:53PM
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zerospinskier
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pussyfooterMyself and many others have uploaded videos since them that have gotten 10k views and nothing happened. Vimeo is no where near the level of youtube.


I've been trying a bunch of things today and from what I can tell they now pull everything right after you upload it if it contains something in their copyrighted database whether you paid for it or not. Then you can prove you have the license, and they will release it. It is basically YouTube now. The only way I've gotten around it so far is trying to stay obscure so their database misses the song.
Sep 3 2014 9:05PM
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