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Terrified of backflips

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Slush
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Ok, here's how the story goes:

Once upon a time, I went to a gymnastics place and wanted to learn to back flip. My friend taught me everything I needed to know to flip, and I was throwing them into the foam pit no problemo, it was a ton of fun. I went to the tramp, and this is when it went bad. Throwing my flips, I would stall in the air, upside down, and had trouble getting it around without massive air (probs due to commitment issues). This freaked me out a ton, so I went back to the foam pit. I attempted to throw a back flip into the foam pit, and landed straight on my neck. I couldn't get enough nerve to flip anymore that day.

Go ahead about 6 months later, i'm tired of having a ski season not being able to back flip. I could do lincolns, front flips, misty, strange corks, whatever I wanted on the tramp. Except back flips... so I said I would flip it that day. I spent 2 HOURS trying to get the nerve to try it again. Every time I would go to throw it, I would freak out and not do it. I finally did it after another hour of back bounces, backward rolls, and trying to get comfortable with it. When I stomped it, I was more terrified than excited. I am not sure what to do, there is a serious mental block between me and this trick. I spent another hour trying the trick today and had no luck.

Anyone have any thoughts on getting past this fear? Sorry for the rant, i'm just fed up with myself. I have no clue what to do anymore.
Aug 21 2014 5:03PM
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.FRY.
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Peer pressure is key. It sounds funny, but it works.
Aug 21 2014 5:05PM
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cyberginger
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Backflip is a super easy trick, easier than a 360 if you ask me. I had commitment issues, like you, but maybe not as severe. If I could recommend one thing, it would be to focus on what comes after the flip. When I did my first flip, it was surreal. I was really questioning if I had just done it. Its a really great feeling. Plus you slay mad poon after. Just get your mind of the negative, and it will come to you.
Aug 21 2014 5:09PM
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.Steezy-McGee.
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.FRY.Peer pressure is key. It sounds funny, but it works.


How do you always get first comment on every thread? Mind blown.


Anyway I have the same thing with front flips currently, and used to have to same with back flips.

I actually just got them on lock on the tramp recently just by practicing, and throwing them even though it was incredibly uncomfortable and sketchy for me. I used to always throw flat spins and could never get a straight backy EVER.

I would have friends help with giving me pointers, I'd film myself with my phone, and after many many many many sketchy flat spins, I finally straightened them out to be back flips, and I still hated doing them, however, after getting the back flips down I just stayed consistent with them, and now their one of the most fun tricks to do.

Anyway moral of the story is to just stay consistent and keep and open mind, you'll have em on lock in no time.
Aug 21 2014 5:21PM
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Slush
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.FRY.Peer pressure is key. It sounds funny, but it works.


That sounds like it would backfire and make you more nervous.
Aug 21 2014 5:51PM
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SnowshoeThompson
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don't be a such a 13 year old girl. oh wait
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaXWDj2efFc
Aug 21 2014 5:55PM
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Slush
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SnowshoeThompsondon't be a such a 13 year old girl. oh wait
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaXWDj2efFc


Everyone is afraid of something. For me, it's back flips. I'm asking for the input of others to try and get over that fear. There's no need to be an asshole...
Aug 21 2014 6:02PM
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SnowshoeThompson
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TwinipzEveryone is afraid of something. For me, it's back flips. I'm asking for the input of others to try and get over that fear. There's no need to be an asshole...

you're going to get over the fear unless you just keep trying. If anything that video should motivate you. You're welcome.
Aug 21 2014 6:22PM
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brend
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The feeling and commitment of doing a backflip is hard, I tried my first backflip on my skis this summer and it is an awesome feeling. On tramp i recommend trying flat 3s first because they are easier to commit to and are very close to a backflip.
Aug 21 2014 6:34PM
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shepux
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This sounds like me learning double backflips on the tramp. I was shit scared but was pressured into doing it, and it turned out fine. Just go for them and do them over and over.
Aug 21 2014 6:34PM
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jacklong27
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.FRY.Peer pressure is key. It sounds funny, but it works.


thats the only way to teach people
Aug 21 2014 8:30PM
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cp_7
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I had the same problem this spring on the tramp. I had never tried them before on a tramp so I had my friend teach me. What he told me to do is first to start out bouncing up maybe 7 inches or so in the air. After I have a small steady bounce going, throw your fists back over your shoulders and throw your head back. Once in the air try to hug your knees and just whip it as fast as possible. You will end up sending it to your knees and it won't hurt. Then increase the bounce height to where you feel comfortable and do it again. start laying it out a little more the higher you go. eventually you'll be comfortable doing it 4 and 5 and 6 feet over the tramp. And when landing bring your knees and try to kind of throw them around because you'll be upside-down. Basically your shoulders should not change level from when the flip is initiated. Your knees and legs rotate right around that point and you'll see your landing early enough to know to bail or sail the feet under you. also, another helpful thing is to back bounce a little higher in your shoulders and kind of back flip out to your feet
Aug 21 2014 8:40PM
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J_Steez
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.FRY.Peer pressure is key. It sounds funny, but it works.


definitely, I would have never tried lincolns, and rodeos/flatspins if my friends weren't calling me a pussy when we were hitting a bc jump
Aug 21 2014 10:34PM
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thefry
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it legit took me weeks to gain the confidence to back flip on a tramp. i was the same as you, when i first landed one i was terrified. If you keep practicing the fear will eventually go away and youll be stomping them all the time.
Aug 21 2014 10:57PM
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5280
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Maybe, in order to get over the commitment issues try doing some double backflips into the foam pit. This will force you to tuck and you'll learn the feeling of a faster spin. It might also give your confidence a boost to try a single on the tramp. I'm not 100% sure that it will help but its worth a try. Good luck man you'll get it!
Aug 21 2014 11:02PM
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BaileyB
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Honestly I find backflips on skis easier than on a tramp. The right jumps set u up for a good flip all u gotta do is pop a bit and throw it, and the flip will come around on its own
Aug 21 2014 11:05PM
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liamrashotte
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Backflips off jumps are easier than on trampolines imo but i wouldn't recommend backflips on skis before you can do them consistently on a tramp
Aug 21 2014 11:12PM
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jamisonmace5
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I had the same commitment issue on backies as well, once you huck it once( even if you fall) you will be set. So maybe just do it into pow or airbag first or get pumped up by a friend to get the first try over with
Aug 22 2014 12:35AM
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HaydenLaBrie
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Same exact thing happened to me. The mental block is really hard to get passed. But, Its simple if you take it in steps instead of going straight to backflips. How I got comfy with them again is I started with Lincoln loops, and each time I threw to the side to do one I would, ever so slightly tilt my head back so it was slowly turning into more of a flat 3. Keep on moving your head back and throw your arm on the backside of your leg until you are almost fully going backwards. It will eventually turn into you doing backflips if you do this process. Then you will be able to do them without using your arm as a guide! Good Luck! Hope this helps!
Aug 22 2014 12:39AM
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Slush
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HaydenLaBrieSame exact thing happened to me. The mental block is really hard to get passed. But, Its simple if you take it in steps instead of going straight to backflips. How I got comfy with them again is I started with Lincoln loops, and each time I threw to the side to do one I would, ever so slightly tilt my head back so it was slowly turning into more of a flat 3. Keep on moving your head back and throw your arm on the backside of your leg until you are almost fully going backwards. It will eventually turn into you doing backflips if you do this process. Then you will be able to do them without using your arm as a guide! Good Luck! Hope this helps!


Wow I have to try this, this sounds like what I need. Lincolns are super natural for me for some reason :P
Aug 22 2014 12:55AM
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Slush
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5280Maybe, in order to get over the commitment issues try doing some double backflips into the foam pit. This will force you to tuck and you'll learn the feeling of a faster spin. It might also give your confidence a boost to try a single on the tramp. I'm not 100% sure that it will help but its worth a try. Good luck man you'll get it!


BaileyBHonestly I find backflips on skis easier than on a tramp. The right jumps set u up for a good flip all u gotta do is pop a bit and throw it, and the flip will come around on its own


liamrashotteBackflips off jumps are easier than on trampolines imo but i wouldn't recommend backflips on skis before you can do them consistently on a tramp


I've tried a back flip on snow once

once. . .
Aug 22 2014 12:57AM
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theabortionator
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Easy tips.


Commitment is everything If you aren't going to commit don't do one, you'll get hurt. Fucking send it. In your head you're thinking "omg im so scared" and then you back out. Tell yourself " if I back out I'm gonna get hurt, if I man up and send it everything will be fine" then send it, land it and move on

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Aug 22 2014 1:18AM
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APunx176
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I was terrified of them too and I would always just back out of them when I tried them on the tramp, so I took it to a diving board and I could do them fine. Right after I was doing them on the board, I went to a tramp to do it there and it worked out just fine.
Aug 22 2014 1:22AM
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Aiur
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I had the same problem. Pressure is key.

DO HELLA PEANUT ROLLS = Land on your back on the trampoline, finish the backflip rotation in the air. Super easy.

Then someone counted down from 3-2-1, I backflipped normally. After the first one it's easy.
Aug 22 2014 2:34AM
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Mr.Bishop
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In order to conquer the beast, you must first face the beast.

The beast is fear.
Aug 22 2014 2:53AM
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APunx176
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AiurI had the same problem. Pressure is key.

DO HELLA PEANUT ROLLS = Land on your back on the trampoline, finish the backflip rotation in the air. Super easy.

Then someone counted down from 3-2-1, I backflipped normally. After the first one it's easy.


I can backflip but i cant peanut roll
Aug 22 2014 3:23AM
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perryhunter
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.FRY.Peer pressure is key. It sounds funny, but it works.


As I can see, it's just your fears that are throwing your first move instead of your determination. It's just like you're just forced to do for the sake of impressing others.
Aug 22 2014 5:10AM
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speedin
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TwinipzOk, here's how the story goes:

Once upon a time, I went to a gymnastics place and wanted to learn to back flip. My friend taught me everything I needed to know to flip, and I was throwing them into the foam pit no problemo, it was a ton of fun. I went to the tramp, and this is when it went bad. Throwing my flips, I would stall in the air, upside down, and had trouble getting it around without massive air (probs due to commitment issues). This freaked me out a ton, so I went back to the foam pit. I attempted to throw a back flip into the foam pit, and landed straight on my neck. I couldn't get enough nerve to flip anymore that day.

Go ahead about 6 months later, i'm tired of having a ski season not being able to back flip. I could do lincolns, front flips, misty, strange corks, whatever I wanted on the tramp. Except back flips... so I said I would flip it that day. I spent 2 HOURS trying to get the nerve to try it again. Every time I would go to throw it, I would freak out and not do it. I finally did it after another hour of back bounces, backward rolls, and trying to get comfortable with it. When I stomped it, I was more terrified than excited. I am not sure what to do, there is a serious mental block between me and this trick. I spent another hour trying the trick today and had no luck.

Anyone have any thoughts on getting past this fear? Sorry for the rant, i'm just fed up with myself. I have no clue what to do anymore.


Really confused. After landing on your neck in the foam pit, why did you get scared? Landing on your head in the foam pit from those heights doesn't hurt. Thats kinda the whole point of a foam pit.
Go back to the foam pit and re learn back flips. It's all in the hips.
Aug 22 2014 10:16AM
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Slush
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speedinReally confused. After landing on your neck in the foam pit, why did you get scared? Landing on your head in the foam pit from those heights doesn't hurt. Thats kinda the whole point of a foam pit.
Go back to the foam pit and re learn back flips. It's all in the hips.


I didn't make it into the foam pit
Aug 22 2014 10:38AM
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SkiCoca
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Honestly my main advice for a backflip specially on a tramp is you have to commit 100%. If not you won't get it around I guarantee you. I just peer pressured my buddy to do a backflip on a tramp last week and the one thing I can tell you is focus on your legs. Don't push yourself with your back (like my friend was doing), because after all it's your legs that push you off the ground, not your back. Focus on a nice solid push from the legs, tuck them in your stomach and commit 100%, I hope that helps bud !
Aug 22 2014 10:45AM
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RubberSoul
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TwinipzI didn't make it into the foam pit


wait what? you might have bigger problems thatn backies here m8
Aug 22 2014 11:05AM
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LC.
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.FRY.Peer pressure is key. It sounds funny, but it works.


Watching much younger friends throwing backflips is the biggest motivation!
Aug 22 2014 11:29AM
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Miomo
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Don't even think about it. Just clear your mind and throw it.
Aug 22 2014 11:35AM
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GrillLures
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Just commit i was afraid to do backs but now im pulling double backs on tramps with easy you just have to commit or you will get hurt.
Aug 22 2014 12:07PM
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zwilly
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Just flip with your head first. Keep tension in your neck looking back while your body follows. After your head is back looking at the tramp, your body is gonna back around. A backflip is for sure one of the easiest tricks but takes the most commitment.
Aug 22 2014 12:17PM
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theabortionator
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It's like hitting a 40' plus jump for the first time. You might be scared to go really fast into it the first time, but if you go fast enough you're going to clear it and land a shit ton better. A lot of people will get scared and go slow, or speed check their speed away and come up real short and smash themselves on the deck then repeat.

They're scared to go big off it, but they're actually landing so much worse than if they just sent it.

Just tell yourself "I'm doing this shit, it's going to work, and then just do it".


If you're having problems getting your head around the rotation again on your tramp do a couple back rolls just to feel yourself going straight back. Make sure you look directly over head. If you turn to either side you're gonna have a bad time. Make sure you fully commit, if you don't you're gonna have a bad time. If you commit and look straight back you're 99% going to come around to your feet maybe stomp it right away and be like "Why the fuck was I afraid of that".


Easy trick, but requires full commitment. That's really the only thing you need to bring to a backflip. Def make sure you're going to commit before you try it again and you'll be fine.
Aug 22 2014 1:52PM
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speedin
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TwinipzI didn't make it into the foam pit


Not one for calling people out. But I have to say man......if your missing the foam pit, then your have bigger issues to work out before you start to go inverted.

Maybe I'm missing something here. But how the hell do you miss a foam pit?
Aug 22 2014 2:13PM
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Chinchi
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.FRY.Peer pressure is key. It sounds funny, but it works.


this x 1000 geta bunch of friends to call you a pussy at the inrun and you'll be throwing them in no time







also they get you mad poon
Aug 22 2014 6:56PM
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SnowshoeThompson
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BoaxWatching much younger friends throwing backflips is the biggest motivation!


NS is too ashamed too admit this
Aug 22 2014 9:07PM
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eddy9
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.FRY.Peer pressure is key. It sounds funny, but it works.

This girl asked if I could backflip. Stomped that thing...
I was immensly scared of back flips. I can do them fine now but they still freak me out at times. Just sack up and try. Also swimming pools help.
Aug 22 2014 9:11PM
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SnowshoeThompson
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SnowshoeThompsonNS is too ashamed too admit this


to**
here is some more motivation for all of you to down vote.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWcx48NQINI
Aug 22 2014 9:18PM
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skiersupreme
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try to do one and a halts. its better to over rotate than under. just buck and tuck buddy. good luck
Aug 22 2014 9:33PM
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theabortionator
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skiersupremetry to do one and a halts. its better to over rotate than under. just buck and tuck buddy. good luck


Are you saying one and a half? Seems like it but not sure. If so that fucking horrific advice. Landing upside down is dumb. Try and do a flip and lanf on your feet. Slight ovrr rotation might be better than under but id argue even then its sketchier when its beyond 90. Id rather do a back handspring belly flop than start toward anither whilr hitting the ground and he spinning toward your head. Regardless just figure out the jump and do 1 flip to your feet
Aug 22 2014 10:00PM
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Wolfgang.
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I feel your pain. I was never super comfortable doing backies, so I progressed other trickery.
Aug 22 2014 10:53PM
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Wolfgang.
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Wolfgang.I feel your pain. I was never super comfortable doing backies, so I progressed other trickery.


(Sorry for double post my computer is being a dick)
Progressing other tricks only made my being uncomfortable with backies worse. Eventually I decided to build a good backcountry booter and just work on them to get comfortable.
Aug 22 2014 10:59PM
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BaileyB
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theabortionatorIt's like hitting a 40' plus jump for the first time. You might be scared to go really fast into it the first time, but if you go fast enough you're going to clear it and land a shit ton better. A lot of people will get scared and go slow, or speed check their speed away and come up real short and smash themselves on the deck then repeat.

They're scared to go big off it, but they're actually landing so much worse than if they just sent it.

Just tell yourself "I'm doing this shit, it's going to work, and then just do it".


If you're having problems getting your head around the rotation again on your tramp do a couple back rolls just to feel yourself going straight back. Make sure you look directly over head. If you turn to either side you're gonna have a bad time. Make sure you fully commit, if you don't you're gonna have a bad time. If you commit and look straight back you're 99% going to come around to your feet maybe stomp it right away and be like "Why the fuck was I afraid of that".


Easy trick, but requires full commitment. That's really the only thing you need to bring to a backflip. Def make sure you're going to commit before you try it again and you'll be fine.


Great advice with the big jump for first time comparison, its actually exactly like that
Aug 23 2014 3:09AM
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J_Steez
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SnowshoeThompsonto**
here is some more motivation for all of you to down vote.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWcx48NQINI


stfu dawg
Aug 23 2014 1:45PM
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Slush
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speedinNot one for calling people out. But I have to say man......if your missing the foam pit, then your have bigger issues to work out before you start to go inverted.

Maybe I'm missing something here. But how the hell do you miss a foam pit?


For some reason I jumped up instead of out, didn't pull the rotation around, and whamo right on the edge of the pit
Aug 23 2014 4:27PM
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SnowshoeThompson
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jahh_rulestfu dawg


i bet you cant even back flip bro..
But seriously OP, what have you learned from this thread other than you just have to keep trying. The more you think about it the harder it will be to fully commit. Yes i do like to be an asshole on the internet but what i was really trying to get at is that back flips are really not as hard as you may think. Keep in mind being a good park skier isn't all about being able to flip.
Aug 23 2014 5:16PM
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theabortionator
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SnowshoeThompsonKeep in mind being a good park skier isn't all about being able to flip.


No fucking way. Idk where you ski bro but where I'm from if you can backflip you're pro and drowning in a seas of pussy.
Aug 23 2014 9:35PM
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AcidKneeDrop
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TwinipzFor some reason I jumped up instead of out, didn't pull the rotation around, and whamo right on the edge of the pit


Well damn dude there's your problem that'd scare anybody. You should go back to the foam pit and just get comfy with them if that's possible.
Aug 24 2014 2:20PM
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