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sam_anderson
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I am having trouble finding the right camera.

I am currently looking at the Canon t2i, is there a Nikon camera that is better for the same price?
Aug 15 2014 11:10AM
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CheddarJack
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They're so comparable you'd be happy with either choice.

But I'd say if you're gunna do a lot of video go with the T2i. If photography is more your cup of tea, a D3200 is Nikon's camera of the same caliber.
Aug 15 2014 11:53AM
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nutz.
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D5200/D3200 both rock. I think they might even be better.

the D5200 films 1080p at 60fps and it's only 579 on amazon, idk why everyone thinks canons are the supreme in ski filming.
Aug 15 2014 1:08PM
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123+ski
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nutz.D5200/D3200 both rock. I think they might even be better.

the D5200 films 1080p at 60fps and it's only 579 on amazon, idk why everyone thinks canons are the supreme in ski filming.


Canons were originally much better. Even though the Nikon D90 had hd video before the canons, I'm pretty sure it lacked manual exposure and was 720p. Canon did a good job, people kept buying, they kept selling the same product (t2i, t3i, t4i), etc. nikon caught up/surpassed, but many people already have nice canon lenses. Currently, the other big advantages of canon are legacy lens comparability, and magic lantern.
Aug 15 2014 2:43PM
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SSteezle
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i've never used a nikon other than maybe holding it for a few seconds. But i gotta say, I'm pretty happy with Canon and how my cameras have performed and held up over the years. So my vote goes to canon.
Aug 15 2014 3:29PM
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lIllI
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Canon's crop sensors are garbage, so I'd say Nikon.
Aug 15 2014 3:52PM
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Forcillo
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nutz.D5200/D3200 both rock. I think they might even be better.

the D5200 films 1080p at 60fps and it's only 579 on amazon, idk why everyone thinks canons are the supreme in ski filming.


I think you mean the d5300, the d5200 doesn't have 1080/60p.

Personally, I prefer Canon for video simply because you can install magic lantern on their cameras, along with the fact that you don't have to stop recording just to change settings. I've had ML for about a year and it is a really awesome piece of software. Having zebras and focus peaking that actually work is immensely helpful when you can't afford a $500 monitor, and the intervalometer is super effective for timelapses. It's definitely something to consider.
Aug 15 2014 3:53PM
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Laurent.
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p.hawksCanons were originally much better.


At what point in time exactly? Film days: definitely definitely nope, Digital: nope.

p.hawksCurrently, the other big advantages of canon are legacy lens comparability


Hahahahahaha......no.

Native legacy lens compatibility with Nikon is unsurpassed (unless we mention Leica, or Alpa but Alpa isn't really native and priced obscenely and everyone is still too poor for Leica so still no.)

If you want to fumble with adapters, EVIL camera's have so much more options.
Aug 16 2014 9:06AM
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nutz.
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ForcilloI think you mean the d5300, the d5200 doesn't have 1080/60p.

Personally, I prefer Canon for video simply because you can install magic lantern on their cameras, along with the fact that you don't have to stop recording just to change settings. I've had ML for about a year and it is a really awesome piece of software. Having zebras and focus peaking that actually work is immensely helpful when you can't afford a $500 monitor, and the intervalometer is super effective for timelapses. It's definitely something to consider.


ah yeah that's what i meant, thanks!
Aug 16 2014 12:48PM
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swiggy
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ForcilloI think you mean the d5300, the d5200 doesn't have 1080/60p.

Personally, I prefer Canon for video simply because you can install magic lantern on their cameras, along with the fact that you don't have to stop recording just to change settings. I've had ML for about a year and it is a really awesome piece of software. Having zebras and focus peaking that actually work is immensely helpful when you can't afford a $500 monitor, and the intervalometer is super effective for timelapses. It's definitely something to consider.


The d5200 actually does have 1080/60p, the d3200 does not.
Aug 16 2014 3:29PM
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Forcillo
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18kSkierThe d5200 actually does have 1080/60p, the d3200 does not.


No, it doesn't. Not sure why you brought up the d3200 either, I never mentioned that particular body. The d5300 is the only Nikon crop body that films at 1080/60p
Aug 16 2014 3:33PM
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swiggy
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ForcilloNo, it doesn't. Not sure why you brought up the d3200 either, I never mentioned that particular body. The d5300 is the only Nikon crop body that films at 1080/60p


It does http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/d5200/features04.htm#a9
Aug 16 2014 3:40PM
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swiggy
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ForcilloNo, it doesn't. Not sure why you brought up the d3200 either, I never mentioned that particular body. The d5300 is the only Nikon crop body that films at 1080/60p


It does http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/d5200/features04.htm#a9
Aug 16 2014 3:40PM
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Forcillo
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18kSkierIt does http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/d5200/features04.htm#a9


It films 1080/60i, not 1080/60p. Interlace (i) and progressive (p) recording are very different. Progressive lays lines down in a sequential order and creates one complete picture with all of the lines (1,2,3,4), and that picture is considered a frame. Interlace video creates one image only with the odd lines (1,3,5) and one with the even lines (2,4,6). These are then woven together, and each "image" counts as a frame on its scale. So 60i is just 30p with weird line distortion.
Aug 16 2014 4:02PM
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123+ski
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omnidataAt what point in time exactly? Film days: definitely definitely nope, Digital: nope.



Hahahahahaha......no.

Native legacy lens compatibility with Nikon is unsurpassed (unless we mention Leica, or Alpa but Alpa isn't really native and priced obscenely and everyone is still too poor for Leica so still no.)

If you want to fumble with adapters, EVIL camera's have so much more options.



Specific to video, canon offered better performance until very recently. The t2i/that generation was the first to include usable full hd video, and nikon never even matched them until very recently when they surpassed canon with their newer models (d5300 was one I believe). For stills, they were superior until autofocus was widely used professionally, where canon had a big edge (by using the new EF mount and abandoning FD). Now, both systems are more than capable of giving good results for most applications in regards to photos.

Nikon can use any nikon lens or leica r. Canon can do all that, as well as ones like olympus/pentax/contax just to name a few. While EVIL's can use even more, they are an entirely different tool.

For a higher budget, an EVIL is best for video/most types of photography. A dslr is superior for sports because of the autofocus, and for flash work (mostly just system comparability/support). For t2i range budget, most EVIL's are out of the question, and therefore I would say to go with canon because of magic lantern and vintage lens compatibility.
Aug 16 2014 4:32PM
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nutz.
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18kSkierIt does http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/d5200/features04.htm#a9


1080i isn't 1080p
Aug 16 2014 4:58PM
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erikK
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ForcilloNo, it doesn't. Not sure why you brought up the d3200 either, I never mentioned that particular body. The d5300 is the only Nikon crop body that films at 1080/60p


for the record the d3300 does as well
Aug 17 2014 12:06AM
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1337
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p.hawksEVIL

What the hell are EVIL cameras? Mirrorless?
Aug 17 2014 7:57PM
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123+ski
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Walter.1337What the hell are EVIL cameras? Mirrorless?


Electronic viewfinder, interchangeable lens (I believe), so essentially mirrorless. I've seen it used occasionally on other forums, but I was mostly just trying to use the same terms as omnidata
Aug 17 2014 9:23PM
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lIllI
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Walter.1337What the hell are EVIL cameras? Mirrorless?


Morally perverse, such as the Canon PedoShot 200.
Aug 18 2014 11:14AM
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Laurent.
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p.hawkscompatibility.


And this was my biggest problem with your earlier post, it had no context, and thus hollow statements, not that you need to back up everything with arguments but you get my point.

Walter.1337What the hell are EVIL cameras? Mirrorless?

EVIL (Electronic Viewfinder, Interchangeable-Lens) Ken Rockwell's preffered nomenclature, and we all must listen to the man who doesn't color correct. but instead adjusts your world to match his.

lIllIMorally perverse, such as the Canon PedoShot 200.


Or the Kyocera Teddyshot 5.

Aug 18 2014 12:13PM
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