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NEPTR
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Hey Newschoolers this is probably a repost but who cares...

anyways Im in the market for a new car and my budget is 15,000, any suggestions for cars would be greatly appreciated, I live in the mountains so awd is a must

thanks guys!
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JibbaTheHutt
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Titus69Hes right, subarus arent that good, I spoke with a rally driver this summer about it and how the late 90s to early 2000's would just corrode. Also Volvo is clearly Italian :)


volvo is swedish dipshit.
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Charlie_Kelly
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JibbaTheHuttvolvo is swedish dipshit.


I don't think he's the dipshit on this one pal...
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Boom. $14000. I would buy the shit out of this for 14k.

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?zip=33308&endYear=2015&showcaseOwnerId=65190957&startYear=1981&makeCode1=POR&searchRadius=50&maxPrice=16000&mmt=%5BPOR%5B%5D%5B%5D%5D&listingId=376478413&Log=0
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Charlie_Kelly
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Randy_Quenchsays the german car owner who has never owned a subaru/other japanese car.


My parents owned two legacy wagons and both the frames rusted out. Evans subaru was also rusting out. Its pretty common knowledge.


Have fun with your lesbaru.
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Sno.
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Granite_StateI don't think he's the dipshit on this one pal...


isn't volvo swedish?
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Charlie_Kelly
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snobunnyisn't volvo swedish?


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Sno.
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Granite_State


i probably should have read more of the thread than the last three posts.
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Titus69
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JibbaTheHuttvolvo is swedish dipshit.


Lol I had a Volvo for my first car until it had rusty fuel lines, rust, more rust, and bad brakes.
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NEPTR
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back on topic right now I'm looking at an 04 bmw x3 with just over 100,000 miles does anyone have experience with the x3 I'm pretty interested!
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howlongcanausern
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^that is a massively shitty car for 15k...over 100k? german? nope, nope, nope.

you plan on driving this piece daily?
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NEPTR
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wepresidentnow^that is a massively shitty car for 15k...over 100k? german? nope, nope, nope.

you plan on driving this piece daily?


its under 10k ... i also found an 07 x3 with 92k for 10500... I'm waiting on pictures to decide.
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.MASSHOLE.
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KBoneits under 10k ... i also found an 07 x3 with 92k for 10500... I'm waiting on pictures to decide.


The maintenance costs on those will be rather high.
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howlongcanausern
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.MASSHOLE.The maintenance costs on those will be rather high.


are you implying high mileage used german cars aren't reliable?
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NEPTR
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.MASSHOLE.The maintenance costs on those will be rather high.


do you have experience with a bmw or are you just saying in general... I've talked to a few people who have drove there bmw's close to 300,000 miles
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wepresidentnoware you implying high mileage used german cars aren't reliable?


BMWs are reliable, but replacement parts are expensive compared to cheaper cars. It's a tradeoff though, BMWs tend to drive really well.
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NEPTR
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*DUMBCAN*BMWs are reliable, but replacement parts are expensive compared to cheaper cars. It's a tradeoff though, BMWs tend to drive really well.


yes I've read countless online revues about the x3, the parts may seem expensive to replace but in the long run there are less parts that will need to be replaced so it probably evens out... the x3 is said to have unbelievable amour of grip cornering and out performs almost any other suv.
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.MASSHOLE.
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KBonedo you have experience with a bmw or are you just saying in general... I've talked to a few people who have drove there bmw's close to 300,000 miles

Not me personally, but my parents have.
*DUMBCAN*BMWs are reliable, but replacement parts are expensive compared to cheaper cars. It's a tradeoff though, BMWs tend to drive really well.


This. They drive well, but if you buy one, especially used, you have no idea how it was treated which results in possibly costly repairs quickly.
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KBoneyes I've read countless online revues about the x3, the parts may seem expensive to replace but in the long run there are less parts that will need to be replaced so it probably evens out... the x3 is said to have unbelievable amour of grip cornering and out performs almost any other suv.


really? the x3 out performs almost any other SUV? you must mean out of little/compact SUVs.
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howlongcanausern
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OP:
how old are you?

what's your salary?

are you financing?

what are you currently driving?

why do you want this particular car?
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Huck_Norris
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KBoneyes I've read countless online revues about the x3, the parts may seem expensive to replace but in the long run there are less parts that will need to be replaced so it probably evens out... the x3 is said to have unbelievable amour of grip cornering and out performs almost any other suv.




Oh God he's actually going to do it.
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NEPTR
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snobunnyreally? the x3 out performs almost any other SUV? you must mean out of little/compact SUVs.


except that the wheel base is only 4 inches less than the x5 witch is considered to be a large sized suv
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Sno.
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KBoneexcept that the wheel base is only 4 inches less than the x5 witch is considered to be a large sized suv


I meant that the reviews you are looking at aren't comparing it to other full size SUVs...just other SUVs in the same class.

Have you seen an x3 and x5 side-by-side?

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Sno.
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I'm not hating on your choice, though. There isn't anything i don't like about X3s, your stat just caught me off guard.

Also, Blue book for a 2007 x3 with 92k miles in good condition without any add-ons is 12,5 ...I'd be wondering why they are priced low. It looks like in the reviews they are hit or miss..either people love them, or they never leave the shop. If its priced under BB for no apparent reason I'd have a mechnic check it out and ask for shop records.
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Skittle.
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hahahaha why anybody would buy a BMW when they're on a budget is beyond me

coming from somebody that owned a low miles e34 535i, one of the "most reliable" bmw engines.
but really don't. you'll regret it and an X3 isn't gonna get you any pussy
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cbj
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If you live in Canada... You can get one of these for less than 15k fully imported directly from auction.

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NEPTR
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snobunnyI meant that the reviews you are looking at aren't comparing it to other full size SUVs...just other SUVs in the same class.

Have you seen an x3 and x5 side-by-side?

yes... i know the x5 does seem a lot bigger and i was surprised when i found out that the wheel base was almost identical,
snobunnyI'm not hating on your choice, though. There isn't anything i don't like about X3s, your stat just caught me off guard.

Also, Blue book for a 2007 x3 with 92k miles in good condition without any add-ons is 12,5 ...I'd be wondering why they are priced low. It looks like in the reviews they are hit or miss..either people love them, or they never leave the shop. If its priced under BB for no apparent reason I'd have a mechnic check it out and ask for shop records.

the reason they are selling for under is because they bought a new car and have been paying insurance on this car without driving it much... i will still have a mechanic look at it after test drive and if i decide i like it.
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Turd.Ferguson
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i know everyone is hating on the german cars, but an mid 2000's bmw run in the price range between 7000 and up are sweet. you can do some sick upgrades and still have $$ left over. they are fast and fun but dont do terrific in snow. basic maintenance and dont take it to a bmw dealer those little shits charge an arm and a leg for everything. my family had a station wagon and every six months we had to go in to get somthing stupid fixed and we eventually had to sell it. be careful but if you do your research you'll be golden
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NEPTR
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Has anyone drove( driven? docent sound right) and audi a3 after looking at them i have found several mid 50,000 to upper 60,000 for around 12 -13,000 and i found one s line manual tranny with a ton of mods for 13,000 but it has 108,000 miles on it... i hate car shopping
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.MASSHOLE.
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KBoneHas anyone drove( driven? docent sound right) and audi a3 after looking at them i have found several mid 50,000 to upper 60,000 for around 12 -13,000 and i found one s line manual tranny with a ton of mods for 13,000 but it has 108,000 miles on it... i hate car shopping


It is driven. Does it have the air suspension like the A8? Because if so, it usually goes around at mileage and apparently is very costly to fix. My dad had the A8L until a few weeks ago and decided to trade it in while it still had value rather than pay to get a new suspension.

And you think BMWs are pricy to fix? Stay away from these.

You don't seem to factor in the costs of maintenance. Get a car that won't end up costing 50% of your initial purchase price to maintain.
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NEPTR
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.MASSHOLE.It is driven. Does it have the air suspension like the A8? Because if so, it usually goes around at mileage and apparently is very costly to fix. My dad had the A8L until a few weeks ago and decided to trade it in while it still had value rather than pay to get a new suspension.

And you think BMWs are pricy to fix? Stay away from these.

You don't seem to factor in the costs of maintenance. Get a car that won't end up costing 50% of your initial purchase price to maintain.


i understand that components are expensive to replace but I'm not too worried as a very close family friend is a mechanic and i have read countless reviews that although expensive once replaced the parts will last.
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Titus69
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.MASSHOLE.It is driven. Does it have the air suspension like the A8? Because if so, it usually goes around at mileage and apparently is very costly to fix. My dad had the A8L until a few weeks ago and decided to trade it in while it still had value rather than pay to get a new suspension.

And you think BMWs are pricy to fix? Stay away from these.

You don't seem to factor in the costs of maintenance. Get a car that won't end up costing 50% of your initial purchase price to maintain.


My uncle has a VW Phaeton (vw's a8) and he has had s ton of problems. Its amazing to drive I drove it on windy back roads in the middle of nowhere in maryland. Its really damn comfortable and handles the turns well but they were on flat roads but could hit a hairpin at 50mph or more if you hit the apex. Theyre awesome but not to reliable
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NEPTR
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.MASSHOLE.It is driven. Does it have the air suspension like the A8? Because if so, it usually goes around at mileage and apparently is very costly to fix. My dad had the A8L until a few weeks ago and decided to trade it in while it still had value rather than pay to get a new suspension.

And you think BMWs are pricy to fix? Stay away from these.

You don't seem to factor in the costs of maintenance. Get a car that won't end up costing 50% of your initial purchase price to maintain.


the new a3 has the same suspension in the rear the multi link but in the front it has strut suspension... again this is on the new a3 and i am not sure on the 07 08
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.MASSHOLE.
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KBonei understand that components are expensive to replace but I'm not too worried as a very close family friend is a mechanic and i have read countless reviews that although expensive once replaced the parts will last.


I just think it is a poor investment for a young adult (forget if you mentioned your age).

I am 22 and have a 98 Subaru Legacy Outback, cost me 2 grand with 78,000 miles on it. It has unfortunately cost around $1,500 to fix some issues (break pads, belts, and a few other things) but it's nice knowing I didn't put 10,000+ into a car and then another 2,000+ just to maintain it. Shit, the lights on the Audi's (if its new enough) cost almost as much as two breakpads for me.

Anyways, you seem set on buying a European car. Seems stupid to ask NS for this advice and ignore it all.
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Charlie_Kelly
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Titus69My uncle has a VW Phaeton (vw's a8) and he has had s ton of problems. Its amazing to drive I drove it on windy back roads in the middle of nowhere in maryland. Its really damn comfortable and handles the turns well but they were on flat roads but could hit a hairpin at 50mph or more if you hit the apex. Theyre awesome but not to reliable


The Phaeton is more like Audi's S8 (newer ones). That car is capable of 200mph without breaking a sweat. I'm pretty sure it has a W12. Plus the luxury items inside rival if not surpass those of an S8. Phaetons are really amazing cars and are super rare. I saw one at Wolfsgart last year and it was crazy. Your uncle is a lucky man.
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Titus69
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Granite_StateThe Phaeton is more like Audi's S8 (newer ones). That car is capable of 200mph without breaking a sweat. I'm pretty sure it has a W12. Plus the luxury items inside rival if not surpass those of an S8. Phaetons are really amazing cars and are super rare. I saw one at Wolfsgart last year and it was crazy. Your uncle is a lucky man.


This had the s4's v8 which is also in the a8. If it was the w12 I would have crashed. It only has 330hp. Both cars had the optional w12 but its still fun as hell with the v8. And yes I have only seen 1 or 2 others
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