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Backflip commitment advice?

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The_Goose_Man
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There's going to be a fair bit of powder at my mountain in the next few days and was planning to build a jump to try my first backflip. I know what to do like with the proper trick, but I know I will have a lot of trouble committing to it (don't really want to bail midair). Anyone have good advice for committing to a backflip?
Jul 7 2014 10:23PM
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HORK
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Think of yourself as only being able to turn foward and back. forget that sideways turning even exists and just let it flow back. this worked for me
Jul 7 2014 10:32PM
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iSmokeweed
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this. i flip frontwards alright but backwards scares me
Jul 7 2014 10:32PM
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broto
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this is one of those things you really can't teach. you can teach a kid proper form and technique, but it's up to him to nut up and giv'r
Jul 7 2014 10:43PM
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DBL
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Don't build too big of a jump so that you'll be forced to throw it as hard as possible. In theory since you hucked so hard, even if you bail out half way you should rotate all the way. Or just count to three, drop in and stomp it!
Jul 7 2014 10:49PM
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APunx176
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If you haven't done it on a trampoline yet, then do that. If you can't commit to that either, have someone throw you over and then tell them to unexpectedly not help you on one of them. You'll flip over easily.
Jul 7 2014 11:01PM
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The_Goose_Man
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Beam_erDon't build too big of a jump so that you'll be forced to throw it as hard as possible.


The landing is probably going to be steep, is that a problem?
Jul 7 2014 11:01PM
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.lencon
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The_Goose_ManThe landing is probably going to be steep, is that a problem?


if its steep and you under rotate you might not catch your tips because of the sloped angle as apposed to a flat landing. on the other hand it might be harder to land in some cases or ride away depending on how steep but you should be fine, especially if there is pow
Jul 8 2014 12:08AM
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rozboon
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It's easier to learn them on a flat landing... even if you dig your tips in you'll just bellyflop and get a bit winded. If you have a steep-ass landing and you hit your tips you will scorpion and whip yourself into the ground.
In terms of setting the flip, make sure you don't just throw your head back, this will result in stopping upside down. You set the flip from your thighs and hips - you pop your hips forward and up, the rest of your body should follow through into the arc. If you do this properly you're basically upside down a moment after you come off the lip (don't smack your head on the take-off hucking it too hard) so you only have to flip another 180 degrees to stomp it or another 135 or so to manage a dodgy landing.
Jul 8 2014 12:28AM
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The_Goose_Man
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Havent had too much experience doing them on tramp, but have tried into foam pits and into soft snow,
Jul 8 2014 4:16AM
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Static
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commitment? hell, if half way through you arnt feelin' it just lean forward and land like it was a straight air
Jul 8 2014 5:10AM
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Hogis
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Just do it.
Had a friend this winter who were trying his first backflip, had proper form/technique and everything but he didnt commit. He landed on his face like 20times instead of just commiting and stomping.
Jul 8 2014 10:19AM
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ZachAndCheese
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Just look as far back as possible, try building a mound of fluff snow to catch you if you fail so it won't kill
Jul 8 2014 11:07AM
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jkelly
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Toss it back hard, you can worry about slowing yourself down after you know your going to make it all the way around. There's nothing worse than knowing your going straight to your back, especially if it's a large feature. Don't forget to bring your head around, you don't want to be in the "trying to suck your own dick" position and land on your back/neck.
Jul 8 2014 12:56PM
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Filet-O-Fish
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jkellyToss it back hard, you can worry about slowing yourself down after you know your going to make it all the way around. There's nothing worse than knowing your going straight to your back, especially if it's a large feature. Don't forget to bring your head around, you don't want to be in the "trying to suck your own dick" position and land on your back/neck.


https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/742367/Titcomb-falls
Jul 8 2014 1:07PM
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jkelly
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Filet-O-Fishhttps://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/742367/Titcomb-falls


slightly bigger jump and you got it!
Jul 8 2014 1:13PM
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jkelly
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lol unless that was a random homie
Jul 8 2014 1:14PM
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Filet-O-Fish
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jkellyslightly bigger jump and you got it!


I got it down sense then.

Im not to good at jumps better with rails.
Jul 8 2014 1:15PM
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shin-bang
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the biggest thing is commitment(DUHH!) and secondly visualize whats gonna happen. i like to imagine what it will look like in third person, and then what it will actually look like when YOU are doing the trick. and i guess this is an appropriate thread to post this little video hehehe

https://vimeo.com/99079431
Jul 8 2014 1:52PM
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RubberSoul
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when i did my first backy my mental approach was thinking "10 year old girls do this...you can handle it"
Jul 8 2014 2:05PM
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xnickGT
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Try backwards rolls to get used to going straight over and back.
Jul 8 2014 2:35PM
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Aiur
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Best advice I was given was "just keep looking for the landing".

I've never seen someone over-rotate on their first try. But I see under-rotation all the time. Including my first couple of tries.
Jul 8 2014 3:20PM
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elcornholio
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I did my first backie on a jump that was too sketchy to straight air or even spin.
Jul 8 2014 3:39PM
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THEE_wizard
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I knew there was no way I was going to commit on skis but I had them on tramps well. I spent a day in the gym with a friend of mine who does parkour and and learned to throw backflips standing on the ground. I made myself so confident with my backflips that I could do it over and over and when I first tried on skis I knew I would have so much more hang time than what I was used to. My first I tried off a side hit at the end of a cannon rail with a little fresh snow on the landing. I chose this because it was really poppy so it would kinda help me get it around and the landing was pretty level. I kinda got too confident though and went too fast and went really deep off this rail sidehit, like 30 feet, but landed on my feet and had time to hang it out so it all worked out well.
Jul 8 2014 4:37PM
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kung_powpow
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Lean back and don't stop. It helps if you already learned them too
Jul 8 2014 10:33PM
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SnowshoeThompson
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Just think of all the chicks that will want the d after they know you can back flip
Jul 8 2014 10:35PM
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Toaster-Tony
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I think it was theabortionator who had an excellent thread on this. He said focus on your pop and pin your head straight back as soon as you take off. Where your head goes, your body goes.
Jul 8 2014 10:39PM
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HolySchimmel
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My advice would be to throw it from the hips (at least for layed out ones). Dont just throw your neck back and hope for the best. Get a good pop of the jump and then initiate the rotation.

When I tried first (parks jumps though) I didn't focus on popping and just hucked + grabbed my knees. Those backflips were sketchy as fuck and I actually did overrotate my first 2 tries (and almost hit my head on the jump because of not popping).

Make sure you really want to do it and have the confidence to commit to it. If you dont feel it, dont do it.
Jul 9 2014 2:43AM
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Willskiforfree
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I'm on mobile and don't wanna embed but have you seen the video of tanners message to Henrik right before he threw the tripple at xgames? That's what I was thinking of when I hucked my first backflip last season. Fukin send it son!
Jul 9 2014 6:43AM
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TRVP_ANGEL
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