Progression vs fun

Progressing is fun. I get that its stressful before you try a trick but what about after you try a trick. Thats one of the best feelings there is

caseycProgressing is fun. I get that its stressful before you try a trick but what about after you try a trick. Thats one of the best feelings there is

Don't know what's worse. The fact that op double posted a thread or the fact that you posted in both with different answers.

Nah its all about having fun. Spread eagles for days

if progression isn't fun, you're doing something wrong

Venturing into dangerous waters again with my inexperience.

Last season was my first season for skiing [or any winter sport for that matter]. I was 27 and surrounded by friends who are extremely skilled at skiing and snowboarding, and also some others that had minimal skiing experience before.

I spent the whole season working on progression; setting goals and back up goals for myself each time I went skiing with the hopes of being able to at least go on the same runs as my friends.

I would get told to "just have fun" over and over by friends and other random people who would hear me talking on the ski lift.

When I started out I wasn't really having a great deal of fun. One of my friends, who is a ski racer, later told me she thought I was going to quit after my first time because I was so scared and clumsy. I didn't have the skill set to have fun, so, since I mostly self taught [after one disappointing lesson and one lesson with a good instructor, but not any attention directed towards me], I would figure out how to do the things that would let me develop the ability to have fun - aka the basics of skiing. When I got comfortable I would weave in more goals into my runs.

As I moved onto more "challenging" terrain I definitely felt stressed. I had to go through reasons why I could do it, why I wouldn't die [I'm terrified of basically everything skiing involves], and eventually tell myself "F it" after several minutes to go for it. You have to feel some of the stress to really get that euphoric feeling from skiing I think.

I can list off those days where I felt completely accomplished and had the most fun - almost all of them had elements that were really stressful for me. The biggest being the day that I embraced tree skiing and accidentally did my first double black diamond. I was teetering on the brink of my ability level the entire time, so after it happened I was sort of shocked at what I did.

There were other times where the stress level was simply too high though and it detracted from the fun; my first mogul run [accidental] ruined my entire day, and my first back country outing with friends [who semi-forced me into it] left me feeling accomplished because it seemed like a big milestone to me, but I really didn't have any fun because the difficulty level was too high for me [and possibly still is], and I spent 90% of it being exhausted, terrified, embarrassed, or a combination of the three. At the most I think I linked three turns - I don't know how I could have possibly gotten anything out of that, but it made me acutely aware that I didn't have the ability to do jump turns, creating a summer training goal.

Without goals and the stress associated with them, I don't think I would have been able to face the things I did, no matter how trivial they sound to you guys. I would have missed out on a lot of those big moments in my debut season that made it special to me.

I think you just have to pick goals that are slightly outside of your comfort zone without being so far away as to destroy your confidence entirely.

^tldr learning can be fun just dont set unrealistic goals

Idk if it's just me but there's something about eating shit on a new trick(like borderline injury), then stomping it in the next few hits. It's just the best feeling ever.

Or those things that seem incredibly hard and you don't have the balls to do it, but you end up forcing yourself into doing it and it ends up being way easier and you're like fuck yeah that was fucking sick. Great feelinggggg.

I remember going to breck last year and my home hill is 500 ft so Breck was fucking huge. Like I've skied my whole life, I have a background in racing and it still intimidated me.
I don't remember what run it was but i looked at it and I remember thinking this just isn't going to end well. Double black diamonds in wny are not the same as double black diamonds in Colorado haha. Idk if it's considered like big mountain, bc, pow or whatever but it was fun as hell and I definitely learned more about that kind of skiing. Wny doesn't see much pow and as you can tell I know very very little about that side of skiing so it was really cool to ski out there in those kinda of conditions.

Tl;dr- Yeah progression is awesome.

Idk if it's just me but there's something about eating shit on a new trick(like borderline injury), then stomping it in the next few hits. It's just the best feeling ever.

Or those things that seem incredibly hard and you don't have the balls to do it, but you end up forcing yourself into doing it and it ends up being way easier and you're like fuck yeah that was fucking sick. Great feelinggggg.

I remember going to breck last year and my home hill is 500 ft so Breck was fucking huge. Like I've skied my whole life, I have a background in racing and it still intimidated me.
I don't remember what run it was but i looked at it and I remember thinking this just isn't going to end well. Double black diamonds in wny are not the same as double black diamonds in Colorado haha. Idk if it's considered like big mountain, bc, pow or whatever but it was fun as hell and I definitely learned more about that kind of skiing. Wny doesn't see much pow and as you can tell I know very very little about that side of skiing so it was really cool to ski out there in those kinda of conditions.

Tl;dr- Yeah progression is awesome.

Its the same in the UK man, so much stress about getting a trick and when you fuck it up, a cloud of shame and embarrassment shrouds you.
Yet here in my first season in Perisher, NSW, Australia... Its completely different!

Theres a light hearted approach to freestyle that goes along the lines of "Just go for it and if not just go for something you feel you could do, and if you still cant do it, just do what you're comfortable with and enjoy it!"

I love it! Im gradually progressing at my own pace, learning a new trick every two or three weeks which i know is slow but im happy with it because i didnt stress out.. it happened when i was ready to do it!

If you're stressing about a new trick, do some runs of what you can do confidently, and then give it another shot and i guarantee you'll feel a little better about it! :)

for me progression=fun. Unless it's a pow day of course, and then anyone trying to get their trick in the park is a fucking dumbass.

But yeah, sure throwing a scary trick for the first time can be scary as hell, stressful, and might give you the impression that there is no fun at all during that moment.

But the thing is, you can progress on so many different level in skiing, and a lot of them are often easy and really fun. Last year I had my first urban experience (where my friend and I really failed most of what there was to succeed xD). When we went back again the day afterwards, we progressed on the way we approached building, scouting, speed, preparation, and even tho the "biggest" trick was a 180 fence tap to eating shit, I don't think i ever had as much fun as on that day.

So i think in order to enjoy skiing as much as possible, you need a few goals (tricks, or lines, or other achievements like hiking a difficult itinerary) but don't over do it, or overthink it. If you fail 10times, take a break, ski some trees, jib around in the park, try some new grabs, go unnaty on boxes or on whatever trick you can nail every time. Then maybe even give it a few days, but again, don't over think it, just be glad you're on snow and enjoy every second of it.

Another big aspect of skiing for me and my friend is videography. I personally suck at it, and since we don't have a lot of tricks to back it off with, it often ends up in building a lot of sick shit that we don't have time to hit enough, or throw "cool" tricks for the ns eye. But who gives a fuck, I had the most fun building a jib run last easter for pretty much a whole day, got a nice bang to the head after a few unsuccessful cliff drops and call it a day. So yeah, we didn't have much in the sd card, but fuck i remember how much fun that day was, and of course we progressed, even tho we didn't have any specific goals, we got better at dropping blind, better at building...

So end of the line, my point is if you don't just ski groomers all day and throw only spread eagles on rail kickers, you'll always be progressing. If you wanna get your trick down tho, yeah, you'll have to grab your balls out of your ass and go for it once you've visualised it enough. You'll probs eat shit and won't want to try again. I'm not for obsessional persistence, but you have to eat shit to stick it, so don't overthink it, make sure you know what you're doing (just a little at least) and you shouldn't hurt yourself enough to end your season, which is the only thing that matters, really.

Fuck, i wrote a fucking book there...wtf, just go ski and have fun for fuck' sake...

there's days where I wanna progress. and days where I could care less. usually, i could careless

MinggIdk if it's just me but there's something about eating shit on a new trick(like borderline injury), then stomping it in the next few hits. It's just the best feeling ever.

Or those things that seem incredibly hard and you don't have the balls to do it, but you end up forcing yourself into doing it and it ends up being way easier and you're like fuck yeah that was fucking sick. Great feelinggggg.

I remember going to breck last year and my home hill is 500 ft so Breck was fucking huge. Like I've skied my whole life, I have a background in racing and it still intimidated me.
I don't remember what run it was but i looked at it and I remember thinking this just isn't going to end well. Double black diamonds in wny are not the same as double black diamonds in Colorado haha. Idk if it's considered like big mountain, bc, pow or whatever but it was fun as hell and I definitely learned more about that kind of skiing. Wny doesn't see much pow and as you can tell I know very very little about that side of skiing so it was really cool to ski out there in those kinda of conditions.

Tl;dr- Yeah progression is awesome.

oooooh look who fucking double posted now

Nate67But when you are trying a new trick, the nerves get to you, causing you to stress and sometimes pussy out

Complete opposite happened to me today, stuff I could do before I would just pussy out but I got my first backflips today (claim) and was nowhere near as nervous as simply getting onto a rail

learning new tricks is fun, but stomping a trick you already know so hard that your ancestors in the ground can feel it never gets old

fun is why i do it but like everyone else said learning a new trick is the tits. but some days i don't feel like going hard and just go do stupid shit like slide trees and stomp rocks because east coast...

progression is fun unless you are just trying to get good enough to go pro. That is something else. Once you try to go pro you just get trapped and stressed out if you are not as good as you think you should be.

Nate67I was just wondering inputs on the subject: when does trying to progress interfere with having fun. People always stress how skiing is all about having fun, but they also argue how people that suck should not be in the park.

But when you are trying a new trick, the nerves get to you, causing you to stress and sometimes pussy out, not having fun. Other times you think about the trick too long and it gets in your head and once again you get stressed and are not having fun.

So my main question is, how do you have fun skiing and progressing without stress and nerves getting to you? Just wanted to hear your guys tips and comments

Define fun?? What is YOUR definition of fun?

Everybody has a different progression of fun.

Some people crave that stress and nerves and overcoming then. To me, that is fun.

Rollercoasters are scary to some, yet they get ridden million of times in a season all over the world.

When you stand at the top of the 486' Perrine Bridge with someone holding onto your back, with 2 unpacked parachutes it can be nervewracking. But if you overcome your fear, execute the stunt then you just had as much as anyone in the world did that dayl

It's more about having fun in the moment and enjoying and taking it all in.

Nothing is gonna be fun at 5am when your alarm clock goes off for you to go be in a "Level 1 film". Are you having fun at 5am? no. But are you having fun after getting a bunch of bangers and then seeing the finished project at the end of the winter. Would you look back and say you didn't have fun????

Sometimes you take risks in-order to have fun.

Absolutly agree on several comments new tricks is one of the best feelings ever, so getting new tricks is progression and getting the new tricks is also fun

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#quadcosack ftw i love to progress but at the same time it can get stressful i usually go h-core one run then fun the next unless its a trick i reallly wanna learn

it only becomes not fun when you hear a pop

Thanks guys I'm starting to get it better now. The reason I posted this was because in like February I was at beaver creek and was going to try a backflip. And the whole fucking day I was stressed out and didn't have any fun at all. The nerves were really bad. Bottom line is the nerves got to me, I pussied out, and never did a backflip

It's really all about what you want to get out of your time. Accomplishing goals and doing something you weren't sure you could do is an incredible high. For some people pushing themselves to their highest limits is fun, think LJ Strenio he is always looking for the most difficult thing he can do and accomplish. For others their fun comes in cruising around and having fun turning normal tricks into their own fun style, think Jack Borland.

I like to learn new tricks really Steez them out then when I'm really hyped I try new tricks

crustedbafoonI like to learn new tricks really Steez them out then when I'm really hyped I try new tricks

That made no sense

Nate67they also argue how people that suck should not be in the park.

Who's they? Who argues that?

I've only on rare occasion come across deuchey arrogant skiers that talk shit like that, and the majority of the time it's kids flinging sketchy pencil 5's that are the condescending ones.

The days that a go home after trying a new trick are the best and most fun days. Yes you can have fun and not get any better but if you keep doing that forever, eventually you are going to get bored.