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Cork 3 difference with flat3

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Whydoineedthis
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Whats the difference between a cork 3 on tramp and a flat 3 on tramp
Jul 5 2014 6:40PM
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90053
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Jul 5 2014 6:42PM
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.S.B.
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I'm not sure, but i think a cork 3 is just an off axis 360, and not inverted, whereas a flat 3, the highest point of the flip your body is flat, as the name suggests. Not 100% sure so don't rely on me.
Jul 5 2014 11:39PM
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skiersupreme
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cork 3 is an off axis 360, flat is a mix of a backflip and a lincoln that allows you to "spin" 360 degrees without really trying
Jul 5 2014 11:45PM
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histonskiah
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cork 3 you rotate around your shoulder, flat 3 you rotate over your shoulder
Jul 6 2014 1:00AM
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250r
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cork 3s on tramps are fuckin hard. they work way better on skis. I've seen people be able to cork 10 or dub but not be able to cork 3 on tramp
Jul 6 2014 1:26AM
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Snowtorious_BIG
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I've always wondered what the difference between a flat 5 and a rodeo 5 is, if anyone knows...
Jul 6 2014 3:02AM
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Negromancer
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Snowtorious_BIGI've always wondered what the difference between a flat 5 and a rodeo 5 is, if anyone knows...


Flat 5 is more flippy you go more backwards.
Rodeo 5 is more of a spin and less of a flip you go more sideways and around.
Jul 6 2014 6:10AM
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McLS
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Snowtorious_BIGI've always wondered what the difference between a flat 5 and a rodeo 5 is, if anyone knows...


flat 5 is essentially just a flat3 with an extra 180 at the end altho you could just land the flat 3 if you get the idea.

Ro5 (even tho you can do ro3) flows more, and if you throw it the classic way, you should come around to 540 in one motion and wouldn't have been able to land before.

Main difference between them is the throw: rodeo you actually set a spin and your head is never really inverted. Flat you basically throw your legs to the side and flip, so fully inverted at some point.

Rodeo5:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDSHWASBq6U

Flat5 (it's hard to find good ones, cos most of them are actually rodeo 5s):
this one here is a flat but not inverted that much, if you watch some candide footage, he does his flats pretty inverted, coolest way imo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWzyXIfe7ww
Jul 6 2014 6:54AM
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McLS
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@op, throwing corks3 on the tramp is soooo hard. I can get flat3 easy every time, but i've tried cork3 (with tutorials and shit) and i can never land them, or always take them to 540. It's cos when you do a cork3 on snow, you use the carve in a lot and if the landing was flat you wouldn't be able to land (as in you're inclined forward, so hard to land on tramp).

difference between them is pretty big, cork3 is a spin set backwards, where you never invert (which is why it's so hard on tramp, cos on a 360 it's hard to be off axis and come back on axis without flipping) whereas in flat3 you throw your legs up and to the side, keeping your head "flat" and invert quickly. Between a lincoln and a backflip.

Cork3: this is the only vid of cork3s on tramp out there imo, he does them pretty damn well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IxbbrpkZio

Flat3:altho this one here, he inverts less than me for example, but there are many ways to do them, it really depends on the person.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opnhjiVm8YEHere's me on a more inverted flat
https://www.newschoolers.com/watch/718476.0/inverted-Flat3-tramp
Jul 6 2014 7:17AM
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90053
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i give up
Jul 6 2014 9:13AM
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spaceghostpurp
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Snowtorious_BIGI've always wondered what the difference between a flat 5 and a rodeo 5 is, if anyone knows...

Rodeos are fully inverted meaning that your feet are, at one point, directly above your head whereas in a flat 5 you are never fully inverted and your head is never below your feet.
Jul 6 2014 9:23AM
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Miomo
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Snowtorious_BIGI've always wondered what the difference between a flat 5 and a rodeo 5 is, if anyone knows...

Rodeos are off-axis backflips
Flatspins are off-axis lincolns
Jul 6 2014 9:54AM
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VTbass802
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McLSCork3: this is the only vid of cork3s on tramp out there imo, he does them pretty damn well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IxbbrpkZio


Those are some ugly cork 3's... but they are super fun once you learn them on tramp and can actually help you learn them on skis (I understand they are very different but they helped me)

Check this thread for some tips to learn them
https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/thread/784971/Cork-3s-on-tramp
Jul 6 2014 11:33AM
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fghtoffyrdmns
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It's quite simple really...cork is belly down while flat and rodeo are belly up. Rodeo is flippier than flat.
Jul 6 2014 2:10PM
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Noddard
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The easiest way to tell is look at where they are spotting, if they can see there landing the whole time it's a cork, if the can not see there landing then it's a flat spin.
Jul 6 2014 2:41PM
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John18_6
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All I do on tramp is messing around with 3 variations (flat, cork, flork-hybrid?) Anyways, if you could tell me what a lot of these are it would bring me closure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foR_uj7fDYA
Jul 6 2014 11:13PM
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skiersupreme
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MiomoRodeos are off-axis backflips
Flatspins are off-axis lincolns


im not sure how much you know about tramps.
Jul 7 2014 2:05AM
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yungsteeze
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How difficult is a rode 5 on snow once you have it down on the tramp?
Jul 7 2014 2:26AM
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McLS
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john18061806All I do on tramp is messing around with 3 variations (flat, cork, flork-hybrid?) Anyways, if you could tell me what a lot of these are it would bring me closure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foR_uj7fDYA


Most of those are less inverted cork3s, some less inverted flats too. Mostly corks tho.
Jul 7 2014 4:52AM
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Elg
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john18061806flork


I like this.
Jul 7 2014 11:54AM
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emerson.hale
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McLS@op, throwing corks3 on the tramp is soooo hard. I can get flat3 easy every time, but i've tried cork3 (with tutorials and shit) and i can never land them, or always take them to 540. It's cos when you do a cork3 on snow, you use the carve in a lot and if the landing was flat you wouldn't be able to land (as in you're inclined forward, so hard to land on tramp).

difference between them is pretty big, cork3 is a spin set backwards, where you never invert (which is why it's so hard on tramp, cos on a 360 it's hard to be off axis and come back on axis without flipping) whereas in flat3 you throw your legs up and to the side, keeping your head "flat" and invert quickly. Between a lincoln and a backflip.

Cork3: this is the only vid of cork3s on tramp out there imo, he does them pretty damn well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IxbbrpkZio

Flat3:altho this one here, he inverts less than me for example, but there are many ways to do them, it really depends on the person.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opnhjiVm8YEHere's me on a more inverted flat
https://www.newschoolers.com/watch/718476.0/inverted-Flat3-tramp


your flat was set way to much back to look real steely. go more lincoln and it will look better.
Jul 7 2014 12:09PM
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emerson.hale
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rodeo is a lincoln with a last second 180 (for a rodeo 5)
flat five is a flatspin with a last second 180
Jul 7 2014 12:14PM
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