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Best all mountain ski

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davd
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whats the best ski to go from park to back country?
Jul 4 2014 6:54AM
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pj21
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Greetings OP, Welcome to Newschoolers!
It is going to be hard to find a ski that ski's great in the park and backcountry as these are two very different disciplines of skiing. You won't be able to find the best of both worlds but you can find something that allows you to ski both, I would personally recommend the Armada Alpha x 2015's, take a look at the Armada Website and you can learn a bit about this Park ski with tip rocker!

Good luck OP
Jul 4 2014 8:39AM
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Alvaro
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i have the atomic blog and they are pretty good for both
Jul 4 2014 10:23AM
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TheSkiingBlader
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Back country/park skis are virtually 2 different ends of the spectrum my friend. A good twin tip all mountain ski that a lot of people seem to enjoy riding would be the Line Chronics. I've never ridden 'em, but they seem to fit your purpose. Check em out
Jul 4 2014 10:27AM
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Hodor
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on3p kartel 106 seems to fit what you are looking for
Jul 4 2014 10:59AM
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TomDavies
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Perhaps onep jmo?
Jul 4 2014 2:10PM
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elm.
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kingswood megafat mounted at +3
Jul 4 2014 2:38PM
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Noha
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Katniss_EverdeenPerhaps onep jmo?


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Jul 4 2014 2:45PM
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shin-bang
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on3p jeronimo iff you can find them. or kartel 106
Jul 4 2014 3:21PM
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zapadelic
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I ride ON3P jeronimo's for my all mountain skis. They give me enough float in a fair bit of powder and handle all terrain really well. They can still rip the park too even though I personal prefer a more traditional park side cut. Basically you'll want a ski with a 95-105mm waist, either full rocker or rockered tip and tail, and decently stiff flex. you won't be able to have the best performance in both terrains, so you'll have to decide which you'll be spending more time in and where you want your ski to excel most
Jul 4 2014 3:59PM
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PON3
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Alvaroi have the atomic blog and they are pretty good for both


I second this. I went from skiing 2ft of pow to stomping 30ft booters in the park the next day. Super light weight and playful. rides awesome switch. You wont regret it!
Jul 4 2014 6:11PM
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Skibumsmith
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onep wrenegades because once you ski them you won't need to waste your time in the park anymore. you are welcome.
Jul 4 2014 8:10PM
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KookLyfe
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I have the Icelantic Nomad rkr and they kill it in the pow and backcountry but are also useable in the park surprisingly well.
Jul 5 2014 3:29AM
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Treblegrogg
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I got a pair of atomic theory's for this year (actually along with a pair of park skis) but they're fucking awesome for general charging... took them for a couple laps through the park and they handled it really well... Just my opinion, but yeah as said previously you can't really have the best of both worlds. Maybe a cheap second had ski for park? that's what i've usually done and its sweet
Jul 5 2014 3:58AM
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schoeski
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Armada elrey
Jul 5 2014 4:35AM
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youngspicoli
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k2 recoil
Jul 5 2014 11:56AM
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tac0.slayer
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Shredditor 102 or 112
Jul 5 2014 12:58PM
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montanan
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no.me.gustaShredditor 102 or 112


pretty much this. and you can find some killer deals on them right now round the internet. as far as bang for you buck i would deff get the shredditor 102 or 112 ( 102 imo because you wanna ride park ) . and i think k2 has some of the best durability in the game. good bang for your buck for sure.
Jul 5 2014 2:17PM
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pkick
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def the new full tilts
Jul 5 2014 2:20PM
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yungsteeze
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I'm also looking for something similar. I live in the Midwest and mostly ski park out here but I also go to Colorado pretty often so I'd like a ski that can handle both, because I won't be spending as much time in the park out west. I was thinking about the armada arvtis or tha alpha x.
Jul 5 2014 4:54PM
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yungsteeze
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Input appreciated ^
Jul 5 2014 5:14PM
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rwiz12
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Line blends, 100mm underfoot seems to be the sweet spot you're looking for. They're a bit soft for bc but i've seen people shred some bigger lines on them.
Jul 5 2014 5:26PM
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FUUUCK
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I nominate the atomic blog.
Jul 5 2014 6:47PM
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Noddard
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Jerome.The.LlamaGreetings OP, Welcome to Newschoolers!

Haha this response was priceless! Better than just slamming him like the rest of these sharks.
Jul 5 2014 9:48PM
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lukaturtle
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I ride the pb&j as my only ski while I'm here in Australia. At home in Canada I have a wider ski but the pb does the job most days. It's 101 waist. I like wider skis for park anyways but ride all mountain more.
Jul 6 2014 4:54AM
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McLS
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I ride the faction prodigy and they're sick. Great in pow (101) super good on crusty snow, mashed, and carves well on groomers. As for park, i prefer having wider skis, feels better to stomp and jib around imo, but yh dont expect to be as fast and responsive as with park skis. Oh and ive done urban with them a couole times, held up great.

Anyways, even tho there really isnt a all round ski, your best options are on3p jmo for a stiffer ski, line blend for a more park all moutain, k2 shreditor 101 for a cheaper ski,armada alpha x (similar to blend, carves better), and faction prodigy for a more buttery, jibby ski that allows you to jib by any condition really.
Jul 7 2014 4:37AM
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skier58284
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We need to know more about you. What type of terrain do you ski most? Where do you usually ski? How good are you? How much will you be on piste versus off piste? Are you looking for a one ski quiver or a new pair to add to an existing quiver? How tall are you? How much do you weigh? Do you ski aggressively?

My recommendation would be have two pairs. One pair of pow skis around 115-125mm underfoot, rocker tip and tail with camber underfoot. Use these when the snow is good. It doesn't have to be a pow day, just any time the snow is nice and soft. If you're a good skier they'll work very well for you not only for pow but for pretty much everything when the conditions are good.

Have a second pair that is all mountain twin tips, or if you're a park skier, park skis. Something in the 85-100mm underfoot ranger, a little bit of rocker in the tip but not as much as your pow skis. Little to no tail rocker. Lots of camber underfoot. Use these when the snow sucks, when it hasn't snowed in 2 weeks, when it's icy, early and late season when there isn't much snow cover, etc.

Of course that setup is not going to be ideal for everyone, but in my opinion it's the ideal option for good skiers who like to ski some of everything. To give a more detailed or personalized suggestion we need to know more about you as a skier, and your height and weight.
Jul 7 2014 9:57PM
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skier58284
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yungsteezeI'm also looking for something similar. I live in the Midwest and mostly ski park out here but I also go to Colorado pretty often so I'd like a ski that can handle both, because I won't be spending as much time in the park out west. I was thinking about the armada arvtis or tha alpha x.


I would give you pretty much the same advice I gave to OP. I assume you already have a pair of park skis or all mountain twins. If not, get one. Make those your midwest skis. Then get a pair of ~115mm-125mm skis (i.e. Pettitor, Bent Chetler, Patron, JJ, Bibby Pro, etc) and take those with you when you go out west. Sure, they'll be less than ideal if you get unlucky and have bad conditions, but it's the pow days when having the best skis is really important, and when you wake up to 2 feet of fresh, you'll be very glad you sacrificed a bit of comfort and control on the low snow days to have an epic pow day on the best skis for the job. If you drive you could take both pairs of course.

If you insist on having one pair that works for both, 100mm-115mm.
Jul 7 2014 10:02PM
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APunx176
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andrew.levertonBack country/park skis are virtually 2 different ends of the spectrum my friend. A good twin tip all mountain ski that a lot of people seem to enjoy riding would be the Line Chronics. I've never ridden 'em, but they seem to fit your purpose. Check em out


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Jul 7 2014 10:31PM
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iSmokeweed
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hellbents /thread
Jul 7 2014 10:33PM
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corona
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let's not forget that if you're a decent skier you should have no problems whatsoever skiing pow with 85-95 mm skis. turns out most park skis these days are in that range and most pow skis 10 years ago were in that range.

There definitely is a happy medium between the two that works quite well.

I mean, this is all on 95 underfoot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeqUkIOO68E&feature=kp


then take any recent park edit and half the time it's 90-95 underfoot.


For me the perfect all mountain would be about 95 mm underfoot, about 186-189 cm, and mounted maybe 2-3 cm back from centre.
Jul 7 2014 10:41PM
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skier58284
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VinnieFlet's not forget that if you're a decent skier you should have no problems whatsoever skiing pow with 85-95 mm skis. turns out most park skis these days are in that range and most pow skis 10 years ago were in that range.

There definitely is a happy medium between the two that works quite well.

I mean, this is all on 95 underfoot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeqUkIOO68E&feature=kp


then take any recent park edit and half the time it's 90-95 underfoot.


For me the perfect all mountain would be about 95 mm underfoot, about 186-189 cm, and mounted maybe 2-3 cm back from centre.


Sure, anyone can ski pow on 85s. I could ski pow on slalom skis if I felt like it. Doesn't change the fact that pow is a lot more fun on my 117s and my 131s.
Jul 10 2014 10:07PM
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Bergan
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K2 Shreditor or Armada ARVti
Jul 12 2014 8:08PM
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Kim_Jong_Un
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Cockslap 180
Jan 21 2015 4:30AM
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RcRacing
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What's the softest all mountain ski you know guys?
Jan 21 2015 4:56PM
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