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theabortionator
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Yeah I know there were some rant threads over the years grinds my gears and whatever. I don't think any of them were that happening to dig up. I probably made one of them honestly. Whatever.

I figured if we could rant somewhere we'd be more docile creatures in the rest of the forums.
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GayWolf420
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SchizoSkierWeird question but are u not affected by the shit u see as an EMT every day? Feel like seeing all that horrible stuff all the time would affect my mental health a lot

my job is tame compared to what fire services and medics deal with on a day-to-day basis in an urban setting, but being at a place where its purely trauma calls all day can take a toll I guess. the thing that bums me out the most is that I can't afford to even seek out care for myself because I'm stuck dealing with a shit-ass industry known as The Ski Industry where we don't pay our workers enough and act all pikachu-shocked that people walk out the door weekly.
Feb 1 2023 11:29PM
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GayWolf420
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AbarskiI think ER tech is way more interesting (and maybe better pay?) and having an AEMT will help with that for sure. That’s just me though, I guess I prefer a medical setting over going into peoples homes.

I've toyed with the idea of becoming a 68W for the Army too. Like as gnarly as that might be, its one of the only ways to afford to live in the US as a healthcare provider sadly.
Feb 1 2023 11:43PM
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bbridge
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CoolChillGuy420I've toyed with the idea of becoming a 68W for the Army too. Like as gnarly as that might be, its one of the only ways to afford to live in the US as a healthcare provider sadly.





is this true? if so that is skuffed
Feb 1 2023 11:48PM
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GayWolf420
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bbridge


is this true? if so that is skuffed

Also another huge point. Our country just doesn't value healthcare at all which translates to shit wages and over-worked people. Yeah its dogshit wages but the benefits seem decent after years of service plus being able to gain more opportunities in EMS just based-off the fact that you were a 68W because our healthcare system is lacking. Lots of EMS stems from combat medicine especially during the korean and vietnam wars. Its hugely why we have such things as LifeFlight.

**This post was edited on Feb 1st 2023 at 11:52:35pm
Feb 1 2023 11:50PM
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Biffbarf
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bbridge


is this true? if so that is skuffed


Military doesn't pay shit but there are some benefits. The hourly pay comparison is laughable because you will very well work many more hours than 40/week. I wouldn't want to join in my late 20's unless it was as a commissioned officer anyways.

A modern healthcare plan where you can pay your deductible to most places with an HSA with a max spending limit is better than military health benefits IMO as well, even if it's 'free'

To add: enlisting is best when you're 18 and otherwise unemployable, no better entry level opportunities out there

**This post was edited on Feb 2nd 2023 at 1:08:31am
Feb 2 2023 1:07AM
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SteezyYeeter
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BradFiAusNzCoCaI was pointing out that you claim it’s all people like you and, if that’s the case, then why is the reception you’re getting on here so poor.

Idk man. It’s gotta be exhausting constantly bickering with people on here all the time. Why do you do that to yourself? It seems like you’re on a mission to bicker with every member


Feb 2 2023 7:45AM
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SteezyYeeter
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STEEZUS_CHRI5TThe irony of ripping on other members for being 30+ while not being good/confident enough to post clips

well i at least will admit i have nothing cool to show. im not gonna pretend like im good at tricks or anything. also that's just not irony.
Feb 2 2023 7:46AM
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STEEZUS_CHRI5T
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SteezyYeeterwell i at least will admit i have nothing cool to show. im not gonna pretend like im good at tricks or anything. also that's just not irony.

It's situational irony.
Feb 2 2023 8:49AM
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SteezyYeeter
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STEEZUS_CHRI5TIt's situational irony.

i thought you meant it was dramatic irony
Feb 2 2023 11:19AM
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STEEZUS_CHRI5T
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Rest in peace Netflix. You took your own life.
Feb 3 2023 11:37AM
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theabortionator
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Been having some bad headaches recently. Also feeling much more aggressive and angry sometimes. Not really my style. Pretty chill. Idk, not saying I don't have anything to be angry at, and it's never directed at anything, but it's kind of random. Usually pretty chill and just deal with shit.

Have gone through periods of bad headaches and stuff after head injuries. Anyway been fine for a long time. Hoping things chill out. Kinda sucks the way I've been feeling. Not a fan of this.
Feb 3 2023 12:30PM
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theabortionator
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STEEZUS_CHRI5TRest in peace Netflix. You took your own life.


What happened? I didn't watch a ton last 2 years because I got a guitar but I got it again for this winter. Not shit on there.
Feb 3 2023 12:55PM
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cyphers
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vert is quite possibly the dumbest way to quantify your skiing. i see it used all the time by boomers and redditors to argue about how sick their day/season was.

has always baffled me as it correlates way more with how large your mountain is & how fast the lifts/lines are. you can be a complete gaper and still get way more vert skiing groomers at vail than someone hiking sidecountry at baker.

not sure why it bothers me so much but the vert claiming i hear from people on the chair is just so fucking meaningless.
Feb 3 2023 2:23PM
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STEEZUS_CHRI5T
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theabortionatorWhat happened? I didn't watch a ton last 2 years because I got a guitar but I got it again for this winter. Not shit on there.


They are getting rid of password sharing. So you can't use your friend's or family's account anymore.
Feb 3 2023 2:48PM
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theabortionator
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cyphersvert is quite possibly the dumbest way to quantify your skiing. i see it used all the time by boomers and redditors to argue about how sick their day/season was.

has always baffled me as it correlates way more with how large your mountain is & how fast the lifts/lines are. you can be a complete gaper and still get way more vert skiing groomers at vail than someone hiking sidecountry at baker.

not sure why it bothers me so much but the vert claiming i hear from people on the chair is just so fucking meaningless.


Sounds like somebody you doesn't get a lot of vert. Sucks to suck. 1milluon vert todayyyyy. I've never really counted vert but I do like some top to bottoms at a bigger mtn. Also like a good hike to run. Idk. I like both. If you get some decent vert number prolly had a good day regardless of what you're riding though. Unless bought a 300 dollar day ticket and over it but milking every run.
Feb 3 2023 4:18PM
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bbridge
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theabortionatorBeen having some bad headaches recently. Also feeling much more aggressive and angry sometimes. Not really my style. Pretty chill. Idk, not saying I don't have anything to be angry at, and it's never directed at anything, but it's kind of random. Usually pretty chill and just deal with shit.

Have gone through periods of bad headaches and stuff after head injuries. Anyway been fine for a long time. Hoping things chill out. Kinda sucks the way I've been feeling. Not a fan of this.


had a buddy who had this. i think that’s actually fixable with something.. idk he got bloodwork done and they gave him something is all i remember
Feb 3 2023 5:36PM
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PeppermillReno
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I had to turn off the vert because I was skiing mostly closed shit at Jackson earlier this year. Not poaching anything upper mountain just the lower faces where the patrollers told me it was OK and they wanted it packed down but didn't want the app to track. Would have loved to kept track and seen if I could hit 50k one day since it was walk on trams and screen shotted.

As someone already said doesn't really count on short groomers. Top to bottom maybe. Gonna see if you can track at Cannon and try and lap taht tram first chair to last one day this spring and see what that comes up with. If its slow enough you can get to the bottom before the car you rode up on left the top I've done that before.
Feb 3 2023 6:39PM
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GayWolf420
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Ski Industry Rant #100: Is it all just rich kids working these jobs for fun or are there actual people involved with this that care about their jobs, have great work ethic, and simply give a shit about what they do? Or is just trustafarians or stoned college kids, or boomers looking for a free pass? I'd like to speak to the manager please.
Feb 3 2023 9:34PM
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SwitchJib
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M snow review?
Feb 3 2023 9:43PM
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GayWolf420
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cyphersvert is quite possibly the dumbest way to quantify your skiing. i see it used all the time by boomers and redditors to argue about how sick their day/season was.

has always baffled me as it correlates way more with how large your mountain is & how fast the lifts/lines are. you can be a complete gaper and still get way more vert skiing groomers at vail than someone hiking sidecountry at baker.

not sure why it bothers me so much but the vert claiming i hear from people on the chair is just so fucking meaningless.

Boomers at Snowbird be all like "Yo I took like 10 tram laps today". Congrats, you skied bunk-ass snow just to stroke your inflated ego.
Feb 3 2023 9:46PM
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Goretex_Vidal
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PeppermillRenoI had to turn off the vert because I was skiing mostly closed shit at Jackson earlier this year. Not poaching anything upper mountain just the lower faces where the patrollers told me it was OK and they wanted it packed down but didn't want the app to track. Would have loved to kept track and seen if I could hit 50k one day since it was walk on trams and screen shotted.

As someone already said doesn't really count on short groomers. Top to bottom maybe. Gonna see if you can track at Cannon and try and lap taht tram first chair to last one day this spring and see what that comes up with. If it’s slow enough you can get to the bottom before the car you rode up on left the top I've done that before.

You can track at Cannon; only place I’ve lost gps was on the saddle and far skiers right on Kinsman.
Feb 3 2023 10:26PM
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TOAST.
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cyphersvert is quite possibly the dumbest way to quantify your skiing. i see it used all the time by boomers and redditors to argue about how sick their day/season was.

has always baffled me as it correlates way more with how large your mountain is & how fast the lifts/lines are. you can be a complete gaper and still get way more vert skiing groomers at vail than someone hiking sidecountry at baker.

not sure why it bothers me so much but the vert claiming i hear from people on the chair is just so fucking meaningless.

I can ski groomers top to bottom way faster than I can trees and other fun shit. even park laps stack up fast if no lift line and a high speed chair.

if you earn all your turns you can claim vert as much as you want.

**This post was edited on Feb 3rd 2023 at 10:34:51pm
Feb 3 2023 10:34PM
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GayWolf420
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Kids are kind-of dicks dude. Not going to lie. Had a tough time today coaching because 3 girls in my group ganged-up on one athlete for some reason and wouldn't let it be. Thankfully she was tough as nails and didn't let it get to her. That's real shit right there and I hope I can private coach her honestly.

Who the fuck are these parents by the way? I'd love to speak with them personally just to get an idea of what source they came from. The apple doesn't fall from the tree and that's a huge fact of life imo.
Feb 4 2023 7:03PM
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maaattt
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CoolChillGuy420Ski Industry Rant #100: Is it all just rich kids working these jobs for fun or are there actual people involved with this that care about their jobs, have great work ethic, and simply give a shit about what they do? Or is just trustafarians or stoned college kids, or boomers looking for a free pass? I'd like to speak to the manager please.


Definitely can seem like that, but hey, I had to turn down two instances of night skiing that I really wanted to go on because I couldn't spare the extra gas. So there's still some of us regulars out here
Feb 4 2023 7:30PM
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GayWolf420
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maaatttDefinitely can seem like that, but hey, I had to turn down two instances of night skiing that I really wanted to go on because I couldn't spare the extra gas. So there's still some of us regulars out here

bro its so hard dude. Makes me want to quit sometimes.
Feb 4 2023 7:32PM
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r00kie
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CoolChillGuy420bro its so hard dude. Makes me want to quit sometimes.


The hard skills positions are the hardest to make it in to boot. Ski patrol arguably deals with the most risk but the only people working year round and making a real living are the administrative people.
Feb 4 2023 7:39PM
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ski_salmon69
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I haven’t had a good all day park sesh in a few weeks and today was finally my chance and i wake up with the stomach flu smh
Feb 5 2023 10:54AM
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HypeBeast
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Oh man drug addicts on reddit are something else. I always manage to piss one off once a month or so. Oof
Feb 5 2023 1:24PM
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WoFlowz
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literally my favorite kid i coach bit me today. Fucking bit me. Not like my hand got caught in his mouth, he full on chomped on my back like a dog so i threw him off my back on the ground and told him off. I didn’t tell his parents tho because his dad is a hard ass ex wc racer. As much as i do love their family. they are pretty tuff on that poor kid, so i would feel bad like if i told them about it. especially since i had to tell them yesterday he got his head stuck in a chair and it cut his chin pulling his head out of it. Because normally when i tell them he’s a shit they’ll usually go “(kids name) you will never ever be on my race team or allowed to ski with me if you behave like that. My children do not act like that and will listen. If you ever want to be a racer like the rest of our family you need to get it together.” So then the poor 6 year old will ball his eyes out infront of everyone at pick up after getting screamed at, and then told he has to walk back to their condo with mom and the dog because he doesn’t deserve to ski.
Feb 5 2023 9:08PM
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GayWolf420
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r00kieThe hard skills positions are the hardest to make it in to boot. Ski patrol arguably deals with the most risk but the only people working year round and making a real living are the administrative people.

Its just depressing honestly. And I like my co-workers, and I'm not trying to be classist or whatever, but they just have lived a different reality than some of us have and thats okay because life is different for everyone. But honestly they do come from wealthy families back east and have a safety net and a different experience growing up whereas some of us have to decide between gas, groceries, our bills, or paying rent and only one or two can be achieved each pay-period. It just sucks, and it's soo hard to focus some days, but the patients come first and always. I've been in/around ski towns and working in them since I was 15 and I just can't fucking take it anymore, man. I might move back home to MI this summer, live with my family, and get some sort of tradie job or something.
Feb 5 2023 9:15PM
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Goretex_Vidal
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WoFlowzliterally my favorite kid i coach bit me today. Fucking bit me. Not like my hand got caught in his mouth, he full on chomped on my back like a dog so i threw him off my back on the ground and told him off. I didn’t tell his parents tho because his dad is a hard ass ex wc racer. As much as i do love their family. they are pretty tuff on that poor kid, so i would feel bad like if i told them about it. especially since i had to tell them yesterday he got his head stuck in a chair and it cut his chin pulling his head out of it. Because normally when i tell them he’s a shit they’ll usually go “(kids name) you will never ever be on my race team or allowed to ski with me if you behave like that. My children do not act like that and will listen. If you ever want to be a racer like the rest of our family you need to get it together.” So then the poor 6 year old will ball his eyes out infront of everyone at pick up after getting screamed at, and then told he has to walk back to their condo with mom and the dog because he doesn’t deserve to ski.


He’s acting out like that because he’s living in an abusive household.
Feb 5 2023 9:28PM
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WoFlowz
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Goretex_VidalHe’s acting out like that because he’s living in an abusive household.


i think it’s cause his dads been gone on business and he didn’t get enough attention cause he’s got three other siblings. he’s usually an angel. still a great kid i just could not believe he bit me.
Feb 5 2023 9:36PM
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Newsheepers
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WoFlowzliterally my favorite kid i coach bit me today. Fucking bit me. Not like my hand got caught in his mouth, he full on chomped on my back like a dog so i threw him off my back on the ground and told him off. I didn’t tell his parents tho because his dad is a hard ass ex wc racer. As much as i do love their family. they are pretty tuff on that poor kid, so i would feel bad like if i told them about it. especially since i had to tell them yesterday he got his head stuck in a chair and it cut his chin pulling his head out of it. Because normally when i tell them he’s a shit they’ll usually go “(kids name) you will never ever be on my race team or allowed to ski with me if you behave like that. My children do not act like that and will listen. If you ever want to be a racer like the rest of our family you need to get it together.” So then the poor 6 year old will ball his eyes out infront of everyone at pick up after getting screamed at, and then told he has to walk back to their condo with mom and the dog because he doesn’t deserve to ski.


he have rabies?
Feb 5 2023 9:41PM
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GayWolf420
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WoFlowzliterally my favorite kid i coach bit me today. Fucking bit me. Not like my hand got caught in his mouth, he full on chomped on my back like a dog so i threw him off my back on the ground and told him off. I didn’t tell his parents tho because his dad is a hard ass ex wc racer. As much as i do love their family. they are pretty tuff on that poor kid, so i would feel bad like if i told them about it. especially since i had to tell them yesterday he got his head stuck in a chair and it cut his chin pulling his head out of it. Because normally when i tell them he’s a shit they’ll usually go “(kids name) you will never ever be on my race team or allowed to ski with me if you behave like that. My children do not act like that and will listen. If you ever want to be a racer like the rest of our family you need to get it together.” So then the poor 6 year old will ball his eyes out infront of everyone at pick up after getting screamed at, and then told he has to walk back to their condo with mom and the dog because he doesn’t deserve to ski.


Relateable dude. I had to deal with the girl gang trying to bully each-other and trying to start food fights at work....These ladies are 10-11. Like what the fuck.
Feb 5 2023 11:50PM
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WoFlowz
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CoolChillGuy420Relateable dude. I had to deal with the girl gang trying to bully each-other and trying to start food fights at work....These ladies are 10-11. Like what the fuck.


some of the stuff these kids do is so outta pocket. Ski coaching is free birth control
Feb 6 2023 12:03AM
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GayWolf420
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WoFlowzsome of the stuff these kids do is so outta pocket. Ski coaching is free birth control


Don't take it personally because its straight-up mom and dads fault. All I can say is the kids who are the biggest shitheads don't have mom and dad asking about feedback at the end of the day each time we coach so yeah. Its ski daycare for them while they fuck-off and drink mimosas at deer valley or some shit.

**This post was edited on Feb 6th 2023 at 12:10:27am
Feb 6 2023 12:09AM
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WoFlowz
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CoolChillGuy420Don't take it personally because its straight-up mom and dads fault. All I can say is the kids who are the biggest shitheads don't have mom and dad asking about feedback at the end of the day each time we coach so yeah. Its ski daycare for them while they fuck-off and drink mimosas at deer valley or some shit.

**This post was edited on Feb 6th 2023 at 12:10:27am


100 percent. It’s exactly how it goes. The majority of my kids parents definitely care but a lot of groups parents don’t. Doesn’t help that most of them have never heard “No” in their life, even if their parents care how they did over the weekend. I have one kid who thinks it’s normal to go to the super bowl, and have box seats at the Bills. Guess who’s the one also complaining about him not being able to just get treats when ever he’s hungry? The same kid.
Feb 6 2023 12:17AM
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Sivvy
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WoFlowzsome of the stuff these kids do is so outta pocket. Ski coaching is free birth control


Not to add fuel to the fire but I too was bit by a child this week. Unprovoked, totally random...just *chomp*
Feb 6 2023 12:21AM
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WoFlowz
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SivvyNot to add fuel to the fire but I too was bit by a child this week. Unprovoked, totally random...just *chomp*


we need a rant about children thread tbh
Feb 6 2023 12:24AM
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Sivvy
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WoFlowzwe need a rant about children thread tbh


I feel a lot better knowing others have been bit this week, makes it feel like it wasn't personal. In my case She's a sweet kid tho she just went rogue
Feb 6 2023 12:26AM
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theabortionator
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WoFlowzwe need a rant about children thread tbh


I ate inside at panda express today. It was take your children to panda express sunday. Children screaming and crying and in between tears running around. I should have just eaten in my car. I hate kids so much.

Any parent who's not hammered by noon every day dealing with that shit. Good for you.

People saying things like "How do they drink so much they have kids?" Like really? How do they not.

I get that everyone was a kid once and stuff. But damn, fuck all of that. If I ever wanted to have kids I'd prolly get a dog instead. Way better.
Feb 6 2023 5:19AM
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partyandBS
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WoFlowzwe need a rant about children thread tbh


The comp center brings all there kids up to my floor for lunch and they will, for seemingly no reason, just scream. Some of those lil shots got quite the pipes on them. I put my music on but still hear them. They leave their shit everywhere. Its like a mine field of lange boot bags getting in and out of my office. Then when they leave it looks like a small town in Kansas right after a tornado had come through. Half eaten food everywhere.
Feb 6 2023 9:15AM
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r00kie
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WoFlowzwe need a rant about children thread tbh


There's a guy renting a room in my house right now. He and his wife are currently going through a split and they have three young kids. Kids are over a lot which is good for the family, but kids in the house was not part of my rental agreement. There is also no pattern for when the kids are around so I can't ever invite friends over or sometimes I just want to watch violent television in the evening on the couch instead of my bed, but no, kids are over. At first I tried to be friendly with the kids but once the dad started taking advantage of that and schedule work meetings while the kids are over and rely on me to watch them, I got a lot less involved. Really ready for this guy to move out and find some more permanent housing for himself.
Feb 6 2023 10:21AM
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ModMommy
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CoolChillGuy420Its just depressing honestly. And I like my co-workers, and I'm not trying to be classist or whatever, but they just have lived a different reality than some of us have and thats okay because life is different for everyone. But honestly they do come from wealthy families back east and have a safety net and a different experience growing up whereas some of us have to decide between gas, groceries, our bills, or paying rent and only one or two can be achieved each pay-period. It just sucks, and it's soo hard to focus some days, but the patients come first and always. I've been in/around ski towns and working in them since I was 15 and I just can't fucking take it anymore, man. I might move back home to MI this summer, live with my family, and get some sort of tradie job or something.


I’ll rent you a room for $500 in MT downside is you have to live with me and my insane dogs
Feb 6 2023 2:53PM
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partyandBS
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safarisamI’ll rent you a room for $500 in MT downside is you have to live with me and my insane dogs


Damn is that a homie hookup price or is Montana still cheap?? I pay fuckin triple that in CO and its not chill.
Feb 6 2023 3:30PM
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bbridge
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partyandBSDamn is that a homie hookup price or is Montana still cheap?? I pay fuckin triple that in CO and its not chill.


holy crap that’s a homie hookup and a half dawg.
Feb 6 2023 3:31PM
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BradFiAusNzCoCa
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Me too but, in fairness, it’s not just a room. You pay $1500 for just a room??
partyandBSDamn is that a homie hookup price or is Montana still cheap?? I pay fuckin triple that in CO and its not chill.
Feb 6 2023 3:52PM
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partyandBS
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BradFiAusNzCoCaMe too but, in fairness, it’s not just a room. You pay $1500 for just a room??


naw I got a lockoff. 1 bed 1 bath full kitchen and laundry in unit, big balcony with outdoor furniture and a grill. Its a sick spot. My special friends from tinder/hinge give it 10/10. Walking distance to 2 breweries and a few restaurants and an easy 12 min commute to the resort. Its a seasonal rental though which sucks so I’m trying to move this may or june. You trying to get out of the front range? Need a roommate? Lol
Feb 6 2023 4:05PM
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BradFiAusNzCoCa
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I feel it. I’ve got a 1 bedroom apartment with a patio, garage Parking, in unit laundry, etc. in upper Wash park for roughly same price.
But what resort is 12 minutes away?? I thought you were in CO Springs lol
partyandBSnaw I got a lockoff. 1 bed 1 bath full kitchen and laundry in unit, big balcony with outdoor furniture and a grill. Its a sick spot. My special friends from tinder/hinge give it 10/10. Walking distance to 2 breweries and a few restaurants and an easy 12 min commute to the resort. Its a seasonal rental though which sucks so I’m trying to move this may or june. You trying to get out of the front range? Need a roommate? Lol
Feb 6 2023 4:13PM
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SteezyYeeter
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Goretex_VidalHe’s acting out like that because he’s living in an abusive household.[/quote]

if that's your definition of abuse then jeez were you fuckin spoiled
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