Mature the new immature?

Mr.BishopSo who does run the school? What kind of social groups are there, and who is dominant? Yeah, it was definitely the 90s when I went to highschool.

It was actually awesome, because it was 1994, Nirvana was the most popular band in the universe and the cool thing to do was be in a band and wear less than $20 worth of clothing you bought at second hand stores. The grunge days were fucking awesome.

Being in a band was cool in school? I mean lots of kids that I hang out with are in bands and play music, but I guess the main focus at my school, and most schools in the area are sports. All that matters is whether you are good at sports or not. Arts doesn't mean shit socially.

Honestly though high school blows because this is what people there care about. If you are good at sports you are cool, and if you do arts then you suck. It's stupid, but it is what it is.

Also, as far as music goes, all anyone listens to at my school is 2 chains and stuff like that. Some people have better taste in music, but that is what the majority listen to.

Mr.BishopDude that is exactly what the fuck I'm talking about. This fucking indie hipster emo screamo whatever bullshit is so wishy-washy it makes me want to puke. The message behind the music used to be something you could stand behind. Something you could draw a line in the sand and make a statement about who you are and what you meant.

I mean even the 90s pales in comparison to how shit was in the 60s and 70s. They had legit anti-war messages, racism... real shit to stand for.

Lets go a step deeper... what are the real problems right now that a youth cares about?

1. I just want to point out that there is an emo revival based on midwest 90's emo going- it's very separate from this indie stuff. (and isn't hot topic "emo".)

2. I care about the discrimination homosexuals (still) get, and gay rights. I'm big into feminism (not radicle, but enough to bring forth reforms) There's lots of problems right now, that pale in comparison to the 60's/70's, but still greatly impact us. We're the first generation (at least in America) that isn't expected to make as much as our parents, our job out look s bad, and in some towns I can be turned away for housing and jobs because of my sexuality.

I listen to music for the way it sounds. If it has a message thats a bonus, but im all about symphonic gratification.

Also worth mentioning the 90s were when heroin made a major comeback. Its depiction in movies such as trainspotting and pulp fiction along with kurt cobains open addiction really made a large chunk of the 90s youth generation get into that. I personally didnt get into it untill i was in my 20s but the 90s were king for that

I am jumping in here way to late but whatever.

First off I think our current youth culture owes a lot (good or bad) to relativism. This idea that there is not absolute truth, that whatever is good for you is your truth, that there is no absolute good or evil means that there is no longer any reason to be super opinionated about anything. I mean seriously, if there is no absolute right or wrong how can you ever oppose anyone? Why should you rage against the machine?

I actually ended up in a huge late night debate over this at Beartooth Summer Session and have been thinking about it a bunch since then. We come from a generation of non conformists, a bunch of people who may not have had very well developed beliefs but they definitely held them aggressively. That generation thought little and believed a lot. Now the pendulum has swung. We over think everything and believe nothing. We don't believe the Man or the people telling us to give the finger to the Man.

Now obviously I believe a bunch of stuff that most of the ski community would probably disagree with but I think that it is undeniable to anyone that our generation as a whole is more complacent and less rebellious than our predecessors.

I am definitely stoked to see where this thread goes and hopefully I'll learn something.

People 'my age' just like to be upset over useless bullshit like human trafficking in Nigeria or Donald Sterling or whatever. It is fucking annoying.

I don't give 2 fucks about 12 girls in Nigeria or one racist, our generation needs to take things as a whole, but the hashtags for that aren't trending so I guess it doesn't matter.

Most of my generation is more open minded I think. Unlike our parents who are mostly homophobic, religeous, etc. They just have strong beliefs where we dont. (More open minded try anything attitude) I really dont know where im going with this. Its just hard to explain and early in the morning.

itt: ignorant 90s folk who think they accomplished something in their heyday

The new mature is sipping Poland spring raspberry lime sparkling water and pretending to have a big ego.

On the topic of immature people being like rabbits and mature people not, that may be creating the wealth gap because few rich kids are inheriting the money from greater numbers of rich people, concentrating huge amounts of money in progressively fewer kids, where as poor, immature people are having more kids, spreading their already small wealth even thinner. But I think kids just dont care as long as they are successful, theres no reason to be any more immature than your occasional internet troll.

I'm gonna leave this here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwGJ0EHdXDc

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Curiously, on a more serious note (to Bishop, et al), there is a latent argument to be had here. In short, that beginning with the 60's a cultural shift began where community as a concept became a much more divided issue. Community values became hyper localized and a lot of the broad spectrum morals/values/ethics/mores we held to be more or less cultural became very splintered. These shifts culminated in realizing not only a more "free" thinking populace (which is simultaneously a farce and not) but more importantly a much more hyper individualized sense of society and subsequently identity and responsibility. It's not that maturity is the new immaturity, it's that there are things that someone is going to be very mature about while there's a huge swath of knowledge that that young individual is not going to be mature about.

e.g. "I" (a fictional I, not me, aka Dealgood) believe in food i.e. organic, local, non-Monsanto, etc and am going to be very mature and educated about that. But when you ask me about e.g. the economics of food and broader agro-ecology issues beyond western soil and ecosystems "I'll" falter.

Think of it as the selective specialization of knowledge for the sake of taking on something one believes as emblematic and symbolic of what they deem important in the world.

This is why we have a lot of bad arguments: on TV, on newschoolers, on the radio, in newspapers, etc. There's a lot of deeply specialized knowledge that looks up at the world from it's very deep well of thought but can only see a sliver of the sky.

Bottom line, kids aren't more mature. See, there's a critical point with apathy, it only goes so far, but to deem certain issues or ideas as tantamount and emblamatic of your being and worldview, that's the new currency. It masquerades as maturity. But really it's just selectivity. It's nothing more. And it's painfully cheap to read, to watch, and to listen to.

Kids may not feel as free on the web as they were in the early days of ns

this turned into a good music thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_zyb-XXWz0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAqZb52sgpU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq7Pxkw8hRM&index=6&list=PLBCC7617AA2849E0Fhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxcaSRmB8to&index=62&list=PLqYXv_L7NiEyTwRuScsYzKAGMLIoIxctf


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMOAXm94VWo

.Hugo.Im not under 21 but I can tell you their heads are up their asses

i bet ur fat n old

Radio Moscow. They are the modern Jimmy Hendrix. Look them up you won't be disappointed.

[legit]i bet ur fat n old

Is there something wrong with that?

It's crazy how much the high school students have changed in my home town since I graduated 2 years ago. Looking at them now the "cool" kids would have been considered pussies when i was in school. Now its cool to write on each others Facebook wall saying how much you appreciate their friendship, saying your always there if you need someone to talk to. If i did that shit to my friends in high school I would have got a punch in the sack.

Shits annoying, I mean it's good to appreciate people and be there for one another, but just saying it to get a few likes on a social media site is a little pathetic.

I can't believe I'm only 19 and feel like I'm already disconnected from high school students. How did things change so quickly?