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CalculatorI joined the dark side too… it’s easier to look past the S when you’re blown away with how it rides lol

I despise the brand, but tbh there is a reason that the stumpy EVO won bike of the year like 2 of the last 3 years now

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tri_photoI despise the brand, but tbh there is a reason that the stumpy EVO won bike of the year like 2 of the last 3 years now

Exactly haha. Never thought I’d say so but here I am and I’m not complaining

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CalculatorExactly haha. Never thought I’d say so but here I am and I’m not complaining

I really don’t care how good the bike rides, I’m not paying 5k for a bike with SLX and performance suspension.

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tri_photoI despise the brand, but tbh there is a reason that the stumpy EVO won bike of the year like 2 of the last 3 years now

Why is Specialized wack? What's like a ski brand equivalent?

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armchair_skierWhy is Specialized wack? What's like a ski brand equivalent?

The dumbest thing I've seen from them was suing a local shop because the shop was using "Roubaix" in their name. Roubaix is one of their road bike models. The dumb part is the name "Roubaix" is trademarked/copyrighted by the town in France, famous of the Paris-Roubaix bike race and not owned by Specialized. So the big S was suing a very small shop over a name they didn't own.

I think they've sued over other dumb stuff.

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saskskierThe dumbest thing I've seen from them was suing a local shop because the shop was using "Roubaix" in their name. Roubaix is one of their road bike models. The dumb part is the name "Roubaix" is trademarked/copyrighted by the town in France, famous of the Paris-Roubaix bike race and not owned by Specialized. So the big S was suing a very small shop over a name they didn't own.

I think they've sued over other dumb stuff.

Yeah, blaming a company for a normal thing corporate lawyers do in order to protect their copyrights is like SOOO LAME

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armchair_skierWhy is Specialized wack? What's like a ski brand equivalent?

I’m gonna say Rossignol or equivalent, just a mega brand that has a massive lineup of offerings and is kinda bland at first glance but actually puts out a pretty solid product. Serious mass appeal but hated on for not being “core”. Specialized though has programs like Soil searching where they give back pretty heavily so can’t hate

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skiermanYeah, blaming a company for a normal thing corporate lawyers do in order to protect their copyrights is like SOOO LAME

It's not their copyright. They paid to use the name, just like the shop did.

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saskskierIt's not their copyright. They paid to use the name, just like the shop did.

And it looks like the owner of Specialized withdrew the lawsuit and personally went there to apologize.

Admitting to making a mistake and apologizing in person? WHAT HORRIBLE PEOPLE!!!

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saskskierIt's not their copyright. They paid to use the name, just like the shop did.

"To explain just a little bit, we have a lot of trademarks all around the world and we have a law firm that watches them. One of the things in the last five years, and especially the last two years has been the number of fake products with Specialized on. It's astronomical. We have a number of people who just track down these fake products."

This is why context is important, kids.

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JITYI really don’t care how good the bike rides, I’m not paying 5k for a bike with SLX and performance suspension.

Good thing I paid $2200, with XT brakes and SRAM XO1 drivetrain haha

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Specialized has by far the largest amount of resources for R&D out of any bike brand. Their aero wind tunnels are crazy!!!

Yeah they’re not super cool I guess and do like to sue other brands a lot, but heck, it’s just a really good bike you’re buying.

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tri_photoGood thing I paid $2200, with XT brakes and SRAM XO1 drivetrain haha

Damn that’s a great deal
where did you get it?

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JITYDamn that’s a great deal
where did you get it?

Pinkbike. It’s a 2020 and hardly ridden. Guy bought the Levo (e-bike version) like a month after he originally got my bike

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JITYDamn that’s a great deal
where did you get it?

so yeah not too shabby. Carbon frame too

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tri_photoso yeah not too shabby. Carbon frame too

How’s the coil?

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JITYHow’s the coil?

I'm never going back

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tri_photoI'm never going back

Considering getting one for my YT izzo just to see what it’s like, but that will probably be overkill for a 130 trail bike

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JITYConsidering getting one for my YT izzo just to see what it’s like, but that will probably be overkill for a 130 trail bike

Dude the Izzo is a great bike. Also hard to find a better components package for the price you get.

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JITYConsidering getting one for my YT izzo just to see what it’s like, but that will probably be overkill for a 130 trail bike

130 is primo, had a habit 4 which is way cheaper but that travel around 130 is all you need for most trails.

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JITYConsidering getting one for my YT izzo just to see what it’s like, but that will probably be overkill for a 130 trail bike

heck I've been considering the cane creek DB IL Coil for my RM Element for no other reason than why not. Probably dumb on a 120mm downcountry bike but I just gotta at least try it.

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tri_photoso yeah not too shabby. Carbon frame too

what stumpy is that? i looked around for a little bit and heard i couldn’t fit one in mine

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What continues to fascinate me with MTB is how it is such a sport of finite detail. I made a small adjustment to my handlebar setup by rolling them back to give me more of an advantage to ride aggressively, added about 10 PSI to my fork, made the dampening slightly firmer, and adjusted the rebound speed by 1 click (increased), and the bike felt completely different. Had so much more confidence and speed on the downhill.

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Just a heads up, Clevis linkage bikes (Stumpy, Meta, etc) are notorious for snapping coil shock shafts. I would strongly recommend checking how much play is in the shock-linkage connection on a very regular basis. Just something to keep an eye on.

https://www.mtbr.com/threads/new-fox-coil-shock-broke-on-a-new-specialized-bike-f-s-saying-the-two-are-now-incompatible-but-not-retroactively-help-what-to-do.1178215/

tri_photoso yeah not too shabby. Carbon frame too

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I'm looking to upgrade to an enduro finally. Been riding hardtails aggressively for years and this season I'm finally biting the bullet to spend 2500-3000 on a bike. My friend suggested the ibis ripmo AF, the canyon spectral 29 AL 5, or the specialized status 160.

I've been riding mtb for 8 years now but still have no clue what I'm looking at when shopping. I'm leaning towards the ripmo based on reviews

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snowmosexualI'm looking to upgrade to an enduro finally. Been riding hardtails aggressively for years and this season I'm finally biting the bullet to spend 2500-3000 on a bike. My friend suggested the ibis ripmo AF, the canyon spectral 29 AL 5, or the specialized status 160.

I've been riding mtb for 8 years now but still have no clue what I'm looking at when shopping. I'm leaning towards the ripmo based on reviews

Just don’t get the canyon… both the ripmo and the status are awesome value compared to the rest of the field lately. I’ve only ridden a status but it felt solid. The MX will take some time to get used to; that combined with the super slack head tube made it almost feel like it wanted to tip on slow corners. I’m sure that was me not being used to it, but something to keep in mind. I would imagine the ibis is more “normal” feeling while still being super capable and a solid build. I would feel it would climb a little better too as the status felt really dh biased, but I guess whether that matters depends on the balance of riding you do

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CalculatorJust don’t get the canyon… both the ripmo and the status are awesome value compared to the rest of the field lately. I’ve only ridden a status but it felt solid. The MX will take some time to get used to; that combined with the super slack head tube made it almost feel like it wanted to tip on slow corners. I’m sure that was me not being used to it, but something to keep in mind. I would imagine the ibis is more “normal” feeling while still being super capable and a solid build. I would feel it would climb a little better too as the status felt really dh biased, but I guess whether that matters depends on the balance of riding you do

I’m about 70% trail riding and 30% bike park. I think it’d be worth it to get something that climbs better

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snowmosexualI’m about 70% trail riding and 30% bike park. I think it’d be worth it to get something that climbs better

I think specialized might be running sales on the stumpy evo too, that seems directly up your alley but I’m not sure about the prices

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snowmosexualI'm looking to upgrade to an enduro finally. Been riding hardtails aggressively for years and this season I'm finally biting the bullet to spend 2500-3000 on a bike. My friend suggested the ibis ripmo AF, the canyon spectral 29 AL 5, or the specialized status 160.

I've been riding mtb for 8 years now but still have no clue what I'm looking at when shopping. I'm leaning towards the ripmo based on reviews

i have the af, love it. climbs surprisingly well and goes down down great. however i find the rear end gets overwhelmed, however all the trails here are very rough and chunky. i am going to upgrade to the cascade link this szn which makes it quite a bit more progressive which i need. also worth noting im on air. other than that and the crap cable routing its a great bike. i would also be interested in the status for the mullet

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I'd like to upgrade to a Rocky Mountain Element Carbon 130f/120r, but cannot find a Small in my province. Rocky puts a 5'5" person firmly on a Small, and I haven't got a chance to try a Medium to be sure. Bummed I missed the 2022 closeout prices on them as well.

However, a Hei Hei CR has been sitting at 20% off since January... but been reading that the Hei Hei has one of the slackest seatpost angles across downcountry bikes, and some have claimed this makes them an awkward seated climber, especially since the chainstay length does not scale across all framesizes. Anyone gone from a slacker seat tube bike to a steeper one and noticed a difference? Climbing performance is still important to me. I have the 2019 Hei Hei currently in Aluminum, but the 100 rear travel is getting limiting.

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Dani-BI'd like to upgrade to a Rocky Mountain Element Carbon 130f/120r, but cannot find a Small in my province. Rocky puts a 5'5" person firmly on a Small, and I haven't got a chance to try a Medium to be sure. Bummed I missed the 2022 closeout prices on them as well.

However, a Hei Hei CR has been sitting at 20% off since January... but been reading that the Hei Hei has one of the slackest seatpost angles across downcountry bikes, and some have claimed this makes them an awkward seated climber, especially since the chainstay length does not scale across all framesizes. Anyone gone from a slacker seat tube bike to a steeper one and noticed a difference? Climbing performance is still important to me. I have the 2019 Hei Hei currently in Aluminum, but the 100 rear travel is getting limiting.

Guessing when you say province, you're in Canada? Otherwise my shop does have two smalls (one c50 build, and one c70 build) in stock. Elements were hard to get last year so don't be too bummed you missed their sale, as barely any actually made it to the sale.

Seat tube angle isn't everything but I know I sure as heck enjoy a steeper one, it just really makes you feel like you're pedaling on top of the bike versus behind it. The 74-75 degree angle on the hei hei is defintiely slacker than I would want, once I got on a bike that had 76 degree+, the difference was very noticeable and welcomed. Also that bike has quite a bit steeper head angle as well, which isn't a bad thing depending on your preference but it definitely has that bike sitting more in the regular XC bike realm rather than downcountry.

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.nastyGuessing when you say province, you're in Canada? Otherwise my shop does have two smalls (one c50 build, and one c70 build) in stock. Elements were hard to get last year so don't be too bummed you missed their sale, as barely any actually made it to the sale.

Seat tube angle isn't everything but I know I sure as heck enjoy a steeper one, it just really makes you feel like you're pedaling on top of the bike versus behind it. The 74-75 degree angle on the hei hei is defintiely slacker than I would want, once I got on a bike that had 76 degree+, the difference was very noticeable and welcomed. Also that bike has quite a bit steeper head angle as well, which isn't a bad thing depending on your preference but it definitely has that bike sitting more in the regular XC bike realm rather than downcountry.

Yeah, Ontario. Good to know I was not dreaming that these bikes (C50, C70) were hard to get! I am seeing some smalls start to pop up in Quebec on the dealer's site, but that's quite a hike for me, a full days driving. So for now I'll wait.

Feeling 'on top of the bike' is exactly what I'm looking for in my next bike! Especially because I'm not long in the torso or arms, all legs. When you say, "also that bike has quite a steeper head angle", were you referring to the Hei Hei or the Element? I'm thinking the Hei Hei based on 99spokes, but want to be sure.

The 22/23 Element was so well reviewed, I think it'll be worth the wait for more stock to come in. A friend acquired the Trek Top Fuel 9.7, but that bike doesn't spark my interest like the Element does!

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Dani-BYeah, Ontario. Good to know I was not dreaming that these bikes (C50, C70) were hard to get! I am seeing some smalls start to pop up in Quebec on the dealer's site, but that's quite a hike for me, a full days driving. So for now I'll wait.

Feeling 'on top of the bike' is exactly what I'm looking for in my next bike! Especially because I'm not long in the torso or arms, all legs. When you say, "also that bike has quite a steeper head angle", were you referring to the Hei Hei or the Element? I'm thinking the Hei Hei based on 99spokes, but want to be sure.

The 22/23 Element was so well reviewed, I think it'll be worth the wait for more stock to come in. A friend acquired the Trek Top Fuel 9.7, but that bike doesn't spark my interest like the Element does!

Yeah was talking about the hei hei, it's HTA comes in at like 67.5 where as the Element is 65-66 degrees (depending on where you set the adjustable geo). I have my Element set at the neutral setting for HTA which is around 65.5 I believe and love it

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dognutsi have the af, love it. climbs surprisingly well and goes down down great. however i find the rear end gets overwhelmed, however all the trails here are very rough and chunky. i am going to upgrade to the cascade link this szn which makes it quite a bit more progressive which i need. also worth noting im on air. other than that and the crap cable routing its a great bike. i would also be interested in the status for the mullet

I'm 90% sold on the ripmo. Do you ride coil or air shock? I'm having trouble deciding which one

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snowmosexualI'm 90% sold on the ripmo. Do you ride coil or air shock? I'm having trouble deciding which one

air, the topaz, its nice for setting the bike up for different things and tuning, but sorta wish i had gone with the coil at times. although everyone i have talked to on coil has had to get a progressive spring which is a bit of a pain.

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dognutsair, the topaz, its nice for setting the bike up for different things and tuning, but sorta wish i had gone with the coil at times. although everyone i have talked to on coil has had to get a progressive spring which is a bit of a pain.

The progressive shock is what’s making want to go air. The work with dialing in air makes me want to go coil. Why do you want the coil sometimes?

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snowmosexualThe progressive shock is what’s making want to go air. The work with dialing in air makes me want to go coil. Why do you want the coil sometimes?

in rough and fast terrain i feel like the coil is better suited, where the air starts to get outgunned. i also was/am bottoming out the air quite a bit but from what i have heard those issues should be fixed by the cascade link. i do love how poppy i can set the bike up with the air. in the end just depends if you want a more jibby or planted bike. also there is a great thread on pinkbike on the af and one on mtbr as well.

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Ibis is really solid.
Stay the fuck away from Canyon bikes.
I have mixed feelings about The Big S. Status models are interesting though.

Another one to look at, the Commencal Meta TR starts at $2500, really great bike, and I can personally vouch for their awesome customer support on multiple occasions.

snowmosexualI'm looking to upgrade to an enduro finally. Been riding hardtails aggressively for years and this season I'm finally biting the bullet to spend 2500-3000 on a bike. My friend suggested the ibis ripmo AF, the canyon spectral 29 AL 5, or the specialized status 160.

I've been riding mtb for 8 years now but still have no clue what I'm looking at when shopping. I'm leaning towards the ripmo based on reviews

I definitely notice, but I'm 6'6. The shorter you are, the less difference it will make. With an insanely long 240mm dropper, the seat moves WAY behind the pedals. For shorter posts, it makes less of a difference.

Dani-BI'd like to upgrade to a Rocky Mountain Element Carbon 130f/120r, but cannot find a Small in my province. Rocky puts a 5'5" person firmly on a Small, and I haven't got a chance to try a Medium to be sure. Bummed I missed the 2022 closeout prices on them as well.

However, a Hei Hei CR has been sitting at 20% off since January... but been reading that the Hei Hei has one of the slackest seatpost angles across downcountry bikes, and some have claimed this makes them an awkward seated climber, especially since the chainstay length does not scale across all framesizes. Anyone gone from a slacker seat tube bike to a steeper one and noticed a difference? Climbing performance is still important to me. I have the 2019 Hei Hei currently in Aluminum, but the 100 rear travel is getting limiting.

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snowmosexualThe progressive shock is what’s making want to go air. The work with dialing in air makes me want to go coil. Why do you want the coil sometimes?

I ride a Clash with both coil and air, here's my 2C:

Air: poppy, playful, flickable, lighter, easily tuned
Great for climbing, trail riding, jumping, popping, jibbing, XC.
Harsher off-the-top, so less grip and more trail feedback

Coil: plush, planted, ground-hugging, grip monster, heavy,
Great for heavy, rapid impacts and holding grip in all conditions, very smooth off-the-top
Deadened feeling compared to air, so not as fun to jib/jump, also heavier

Best of both worlds IMO, grab a Marzocchi coil shock to bash on for bike park days and keep the air shock that comes stock nice for your trail rides and big climbing days.

Honestly, as long as it's not a Float X2, any shock will do the job. X2's are ticking time bombs.

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Things in my bike search have changed quickly. A shop in town has a specialized eduro elite from 2020 for sale at 3000. I rode it today and I think I’m gonna go for if

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snowmosexualThings in my bike search have changed quickly. A shop in town has a specialized eduro elite from 2020 for sale at 3000. I rode it today and I think I’m gonna go for if

Enduro is a great bike, lots of reviewers and riders love it. More DH focused than that Ripmo or Status though.

Is that new or used? Regardless, just make sure you get a warranty with it. The Enduro sometimes cracks at particular spots in the frame, but Specialized is known for great customer service, so they'll have your back if anything happens.

Cascade Components makes a cool linkage for it too. Stock Enduro reportedly overdelivers at 176mm of rear travel, but you can swap on the CC link and a 65mm stroke shock for ~200mm rear travel, and it's dual crown rated, so it can also do full on 200/200 DH bike duty. Lots to tinker with.

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jimbobsEnduro is a great bike, lots of reviewers and riders love it. More DH focused than that Ripmo or Status though.

Is that new or used? Regardless, just make sure you get a warranty with it. The Enduro sometimes cracks at particular spots in the frame, but Specialized is known for great customer service, so they'll have your back if anything happens.

Cascade Components makes a cool linkage for it too. Stock Enduro reportedly overdelivers at 176mm of rear travel, but you can swap on the CC link and a 65mm stroke shock for ~200mm rear travel, and it's dual crown rated, so it can also do full on 200/200 DH bike duty. Lots to tinker with.

It was used by one of the older shop managers for a couple months. Still in good shape, I did my best inspecting everything. It comes with a frame warranty.

I figure it's gonna be the better bike to invest in. I rode the ripmo and was very impressed until I got on the enduro and realized I want a bike that is gonna push my limits downhill

I didn't know about those possible upgrades, that's really sick. I'm really stoked to finally get on a bike that has a higher speed limit than I'm willing to go.

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snowmosexualIt was used by one of the older shop managers for a couple months. Still in good shape, I did my best inspecting everything. It comes with a frame warranty.

If you enjoyed riding it, then I'd say go for it. Price is good for a 2020 Enduro Elite with a warranty.

Before you fork over the cash, though, one tip. Bikeshop folk ride their bikes hard, and sometimes slack on their own bike maintenance because they do so much of it at work already. Tell them you're on board, but only if they throw in a service on it before you take it home.

Worst case they say no, or offer a discount on one instead, but I bet they'll say yes. The used bike market is flooded with good bikes currently, so just being able to sell one is a big move.

If they do agree to a full service, I'd drop off a 6-pack of some craft beer on your way out as a thank you. Great way to get on a shop's good side, and way cheaper than paying for the job.

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Just picked up new Chromag high rise bars, the Fubar 40mm rise, and a stem! Super pumped to put them on for spring riding.

Also grabbed this sexy little cap

Everything is going on my stock Norco Fluid

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littleman34Just picked up new Chromag high rise bars, the Fubar 40mm rise, and a stem! Super pumped to put them on for spring riding.

Also grabbed this sexy little cap

Everything is going on my stock Norco Fluid

LOL yeah bro, those items will definitely approve your riding.

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skiermanLOL yeah bro, those items will definitely approve your riding.

Yeah man just having the bars a little higher and closer will be so nice. Also they will be nice to look at.

I'm moving out to Revelstoke this summer so I'm trying to upgrade by bike as much as possible for the riding out there. I just got some new Shimano rotors too to start rebuilding the brake system. Got em both for 50 off Pinkbike! Installing brake systems seems so tricky though, I'm not excited for it.

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