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MLJI love your pole!
Mr.HuckThe bill, SB 967, would require “affirmative consent” before college-age couples can have sex. This would essentially outlaw sex that is had “while in the heat of passion”.
LE.SkiingSo this means that a Girl has to be sober before signing said contract. I mean correct me if I'm wrong but before anyone signs a contract they can't be intoxicated. Kind of takes the fun out of college.
LE.SkiingSo this means that a Girl has to be sober before signing said contract. I mean correct me if I'm wrong but before anyone signs a contract they can't be intoxicated. Kind of takes the fun out of college.
shreddinthegnarrI see where they're coming from. But I don't see why they need a law about this. If a girl or guy says yes, drunk or not then that's his/her decision. It's not a crime to have sex. Rape and sexual assault is one thing but having drunk sex where both people say yes at the time is not a big deal. Im not signing a fucking contract everytime I want to have sex. Fuck this shit.
LE.SkiingI agree instead of making ridiculous laws like this why not make rape sentences harsher. Also in cases where girls have buyers remorse suck it up(Not saying every girl who gets raped is just having remorse[a small percentage of people actually do this] for their actions there should just be a way to punish people trying to ruin other peoples lives because they are having a case of "Buyers remorse".)
shreddinthegnarrYeah I agree. Also, someone who drinks and drives is held responsible for their actions while they are drunk. Why can't a girl who drunkenly says yes to sex be held to the same degree of responsibility?
yelselIt's a bit thin though, no?
shreddinthegnarrYeah I agree. Also, someone who drinks and drives is held responsible for their actions while they are drunk. Why can't a girl who drunkenly says yes to sex be held to the same degree of responsibility?
royalcanterlot.this thread has aids.
Mr.HuckI think there is a happy medium. As a former frat prick, I saw girls get taken advantage of when they were basically incoherent. That's not right. It's also not right for two people to have heat of the moment sex, whether alcohol is involved or not, and one of them wakes up in the morning with a case of the regrets and claims rape after the fact.
I think the problem with the drinking and driving analogy is that two activities are involved. You can't just say girl get's drunk and girl goes to party, therefore it's OK to have sex with her against her will.
Mr.HuckI think the problem with the drinking and driving analogy is that two activities are involved. You can't just say girl get's drunk and girl goes to party, therefore it's OK to have sex with her against her will.
MACAQUEIt seems like current laws say that sexual consent cannot be given by a woman if she is drunk because her judgement is impaired, which is analogous to saying that a drunk driver can't be punished for driving drunk because their judgement was impaired when they got into the car.
MACAQUEThe drinking and driving analogy is relevant because someone who is drunk is still held accountable for their actions in a vehicle if they hurt someone. They are "consenting" to driving while drunk. It seems like current laws say that sexual consent cannot be given by a woman if she is drunk because her judgement is impaired, which is analogous to saying that a drunk driver can't be punished for driving drunk because their judgement was impaired when they got into the car. Current laws make it really easy for a girl to claim "rape" if she regrets consensual, drunk sex because her consent wasn't valid in the eyes of the law.
theabortionatorThis is the kind of shit that makes me wut at our political system. How the fuck to people vote for people to get paid to think up shit like this.
There really is no hope for our country. We're doomed.
LE.SkiingWe are all doomed Canada's politics are just as fucked up. Don't know if anyone has heard of this but yah... link (basically BC's Premier has accumulated a debt of $475k All of which is tax payers money for personal use.)
Then cuts teachers pay(link).
Political logic...
immasNot sure legislation was the right way to go about this. It should be addressed in health class or in an education setting. Teach what is and is not consent, and what not to do if you regret it.
theabortionatorI think I've voted 3 times and I've been registered to vote for 7 years. I refuse to vote for idiots. Unfortunately that means I pretty much can't vote
That's another concept that I don't understand. That it's your "duty to vote". It's push in 'murica at least. If you don't have any idea what the hell is going on you may have the right to vote but you probably shouldn't be. Voting is stressed hard as fuck. Being informed about any of the candidates, issues or even what galaxy we're in, not at all.
LE.SkiingNo they push it here and people who don't vote are criticized and are told "you have no right to complain if you don't vote." Which I don't believe is right at all. If I don't want any of the people in the running to win why would I vote for them?
godhatesfigsIm pretty sure youre not actually required to sign a contract, just to make consent explicitly clear. I am not sure what exactly this accomplishes without a witness or some other intrusion in to the involved parties privacy, but it certainly isn't as bad as that article is making it out to be.
I get what theyre going for here, but there can be some pretty clear non-verbal consent. For example if you grab my dick, point it at your vagina, and sit down on it im pretty sure that's equivalent to agreeing to have sex.
TurkeltonI love living in Europe.
MLJHmm, this used to be really good but europe is kinda breaking up right now, because they try to apply laws all around that may not apply to specific countries. It needs to become more like the US where there are federal and state laws, so that each country gets more autonomy from the EU.
shreddinthegnarrYeah I agree. Also, someone who drinks and drives is held responsible for their actions while they are drunk. Why can't a girl who drunkenly says yes to sex be held to the same degree of responsibility?
