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WHy no switch urban?

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gotti
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So, i got high and was thinking that what sucks is you dont really see people doing urban switch tricks. Its like taking half the tricks out of the equation. Anybody have any videos of people hitting urban switch?
Jun 5 2014 10:20PM
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WPoch
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No one ever DARES attempt The Switch. It is a death sentence to all
Jun 5 2014 10:22PM
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Mayrandpodcast
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dom laporte since 08

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Jun 5 2014 10:25PM
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eheath
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lol did you miss tom doing sw 2 and sw 4 disaster last year?

cheddar does sw 2 alot too.


Mostly, you're seeing less switch because people are hitting huge features and/or theyre using a bungie/winch and its harder to pop switch.


But OP you're too high.
Jun 5 2014 10:36PM
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kingsskier
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Getting a tow in switch is difficult and there is usually little room to switch up on the run in if they start forward.
Jun 5 2014 10:58PM
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Mr.Bishop
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kingsskierGetting a tow in switch is difficult and there is usually little room to switch up on the run in if they start forward.


Terrible excuse. These guys are professionals and I expect better.
Jun 5 2014 11:00PM
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kingsskier
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Mr.BishopTerrible excuse. These guys are professionals and I expect better.


Fireworks on the tips to boost them switch into the rails? I'll get my duct tape
Jun 5 2014 11:02PM
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Ribss.
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kingsskierFireworks on the tips to boost them switch into the rails? I'll get my duct tape


I can hold a wakeboard tow rope behind my back and ride, why can't a pro?
Jun 5 2014 11:08PM
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kingsskier
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Ribss.I can hold a wakeboard tow rope behind my back and ride, why can't a pro?


Ok ok I'm a pussy and don't hold a tow in rope backward.
Jun 5 2014 11:14PM
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gotti
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Mr.BishopTerrible excuse. These guys are professionals and I expect better.


Thank you mr. bishop you seem to be the only one in this thread FOR progression.
Jun 5 2014 11:20PM
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Saga.
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I think it was in Sunny Will Wesson did a couple of switch urban hits.
Jun 5 2014 11:24PM
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jason...
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you ever tried hitting a sketchy urban setup switch? thats why.
Jun 6 2014 12:15AM
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fredyferl
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I don't really mind not seeing a lot of switch onto urban rails. If you compare to snowboarding, the equivalent in skiing of switch riding in snowboarding would be unnatural. In snowboarding and skateboarding, you see a good amount of switch riding in urban, as in skiing, people don't really seem to notice as much when someone is hitting a rail unnatural. That being said, I think there's a lot of tech tricks that have been done in the park but have yet to be done on urban rails
Jun 6 2014 12:19AM
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LOLZfajitas
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i demand more rectal facing ham slams!!!!
Jun 6 2014 12:32AM
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Mr.Bishop
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jason...you ever tried hitting a sketchy urban setup switch? thats why.


That's a bad excuse though. I mean I remember seeing Pep 270 onto a rail at high north in like 2001. It seemed like a fucking impossible superman feat.

I learned it a year later and that shit was something that almost nobody did.

Nowadays any fucking nine year old who has been park skiing for fifteen minutes can 270 k-fed or whatever the fuck you call it these days.

I mean Jesus there was a day when a cab 10 was fucking mind blowing. Compare that to a nosebutter triple cork million spin and I think that figuring out how to jump on urban switch isn't a huge step of logic.
Jun 6 2014 1:15AM
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Calb3rt
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Frank Raymond Craig Crocker are some of some people i remember doing switch urban. and since kingsskier started talking about fireworks on skis... @:37 but you will enjoy every second.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBb0x4A7L5A
greatest movie in this universe or the next.
Jun 6 2014 1:21AM
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MLJ
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Mr.BishopThat's a bad excuse though. I mean I remember seeing Pep 270 onto a rail at high north in like 2001. It seemed like a fucking impossible superman feat.

I learned it a year later and that shit was something that almost nobody did.

Nowadays any fucking nine year old who has been park skiing for fifteen minutes can 270 k-fed or whatever the fuck you call it these days.

I mean Jesus there was a day when a cab 10 was fucking mind blowing. Compare that to a nosebutter triple cork million spin and I think that figuring out how to jump on urban switch isn't a huge step of logic.


Jun 6 2014 2:26AM
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Squidles
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Mr.BishopNowadays any fucking nine year old who has been park skiing for fifteen minutes can 270 k-fed or whatever the fuck you call it these days.


15 minutes? Dammit ....

Jun 6 2014 3:44AM
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JuliusJ
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Calb3rtFrank Raymond Craig Crocker are some of some people i remember doing switch urban. and since kingsskier started talking about fireworks on skis... @:37 but you will enjoy every second.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBb0x4A7L5A
greatest movie in this universe or the next.


holy fuck this looks like the best movie ever. i gotta find it
Jun 6 2014 4:40AM
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DannyWarley
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Dom Laporte.
Jun 6 2014 5:54AM
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PATROL
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Even Sigstad has been doing them for years in Field prod.-movies:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFbtnRVTbQk
This is just a bonus edit, and it has only 2 shots of switch stuff, but you get the idea. He probably has the greatest urban switch 2s on, along with Laporte.
Jun 6 2014 5:58AM
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Dom has a few good ones in here:

https://www.newschoolers.com/watch/707435.0/Tabarnak-Pack--The-Finale-
Jun 6 2014 7:23AM
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MLJ
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Also Tom's switch 4 on in The Wallisch Project
Jun 6 2014 7:38AM
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filipoio
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Even Sigstad from Field Production
Jun 6 2014 8:45AM
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I_liketobutter
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frank raymond sw urban with almost no jump. that shit is awesome

1:28 & 2:29
https://www.newschoolers.com/watch/644179.0/Frank-Raymond-OG-urban-edit
https://www.newschoolers.com/watch/644179.0/Frank-Raymond-OG-urban-editan't seem to find his skimatic part...
Jun 6 2014 9:56AM
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I_liketobutter
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Well I guess I can't embedd a video from NS..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqdKCCOxy6k
Jun 6 2014 9:57AM
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RubberSoul
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Mr.BishopThat's a bad excuse though. I mean I remember seeing Pep 270 onto a rail at high north in like 2001. It seemed like a fucking impossible superman feat.

I learned it a year later and that shit was something that almost nobody did.

Nowadays any fucking nine year old who has been park skiing for fifteen minutes can 270 k-fed or whatever the fuck you call it these days.

I mean Jesus there was a day when a cab 10 was fucking mind blowing. Compare that to a nosebutter triple cork million spin and I think that figuring out how to jump on urban switch isn't a huge step of logic.


not to be a nitpicker but im pretty sure that didnt happen in 2001/2002

but your point stands, what seems impossible in a lot of cases is possible. but that doesnt mean it isnt sketchy as FUCK. hitting urban switch fuckin blows

i think considering how sketchy it is we see it quite a bit. some shots that come to mind are clayton's switch 2 into that dfd and wallisch's sw4 on (really great shots, both of em, bravo) and i feel like there are plenty of sw tails and sw lips
Jun 6 2014 9:59AM
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BWalmer
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I think you might need to expand your urban viewing horizons. People are doing switch urban all the time. It requires a lot more work and almost perfect timing, so it's not as common as forward tricks, but they are certainly out there. I'm pretty sure almost every segment in All Damn Day that featured urban has at least one switch urban shot (including Karl's switch 6 on).
Jun 6 2014 10:06AM
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JTV
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https://www.newschoolers.com/watch/715360.0/Robert-Brown-Street-2014?c=11 there is switch urban in this... twice.
Jun 6 2014 10:10AM
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tomford
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http://vimeo.com/86449278

2:38... and if you see the fall from this shot, you can understand why more people dont do switch urban
Jun 6 2014 12:29PM
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jensen
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RubberSoulnot to be a nitpicker but im pretty sure that didnt happen in 2001/2002


i hate to be a nitpicker but yes it was. Pep in PBP happy dayz to that de la soul song. i also remember watching that and my mind was blown.
Jun 6 2014 1:17PM
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jensen
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Also, for those of you saying that it is too sketchy or hard..... not too long ago halfpipe runs had zero switch hits, look where we are now. switch urban has room to improve.
Jun 6 2014 1:20PM
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jkelly
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Your first problem...you got high.
Jun 6 2014 1:36PM
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RubberSoul
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Calb3rtFrank Raymond Craig Crocker are some of some people i remember doing switch urban. and since kingsskier started talking about fireworks on skis... @:37 but you will enjoy every second.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBb0x4A7L5A
greatest movie in this universe or the next.


DUDE
Jun 6 2014 2:04PM
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B_K
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tom wallisch in eye trip does a sw 2 on pretz 2 off
Jun 6 2014 2:23PM
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dozerr
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Saga.I think it was in Sunny Will Wesson did a couple of switch urban hits.


definitely maybe. great post saga
Jun 6 2014 2:31PM
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theabortionator
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I just put my outerwear and goggles on backwards and pretend I'm dropping switch.
Jun 6 2014 2:34PM
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mr_hartl
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THIS THREAD IS SO STEPT
Jun 6 2014 2:36PM
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gotti
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theabortionatorI just put my outerwear and goggles on backwards and pretend I'm dropping switch.


you do realize your face is the same direction forward and switch

Also ive heard of switch onto rail but what about urban jumps/trannyfinds/tap features?
Jun 6 2014 3:17PM
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mr_hartl
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i think everyone should stop talking about it and go do it... :)
Jun 6 2014 3:19PM
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Kretzschmar
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MousseauDom has a few good ones in here:


does doing a caribou count as switch or like half switch?
Jun 6 2014 3:45PM
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White_Goodman
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First of all, if you haven't seen any switch urban tricks, you probably haven't watched enough ski videos. I think the reason why it isn't very popular in urban is because the main focus is usually doing big, gnarley, original stuff, not technical tricks. And not only is hopping into switch before hitting an urban feature when using a bungee difficult, it also looks pretty dumb.. when you're using a bungee you are obviously looking to get as much speed as possible, so hopping into switch is going to slow you down, and doing it 10 feet before the takeoff looks stupid in my opinion. When there is natural speed available it would make more sense, because you could hop into switvh earlier, or drop in switch.
Jun 6 2014 8:05PM
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Amarino
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Clayton does a huge switch 2 in mutiny, wrecks himself then stomps it
Jun 6 2014 8:53PM
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Jpurd
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Sammy Carl definitely had a few switch tricks in one of the PBP movies (maybe Revolver?)


Plus you gotta keep in mind, and I am sure this has been said, but I am assuming it is much harder to get speed for switch tricks in an urban setting.
Jun 6 2014 9:59PM
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KWS
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AmarinoClayton does a huge switch 2 in mutiny, wrecks himself then stomps it


just about to say Clayton Vila
Jun 7 2014 12:08AM
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willysworld
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WPochNo one ever DARES attempt The Switch. It is a death sentence to all


This made me laugh..
Jun 7 2014 7:09AM
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Saga.
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White_GoodmanFirst of all, if you haven't seen any switch urban tricks, you probably haven't watched enough ski videos. I think the reason why it isn't very popular in urban is because the main focus is usually doing big, gnarley, original stuff, not technical tricks. And not only is hopping into switch before hitting an urban feature when using a bungee difficult, it also looks pretty dumb.. when you're using a bungee you are obviously looking to get as much speed as possible, so hopping into switch is going to slow you down, and doing it 10 feet before the takeoff looks stupid in my opinion. When there is natural speed available it would make more sense, because you could hop into switvh earlier, or drop in switch.


I have to disagree with this. There is switch urban shots in every movie every year. But the overwhelming majority of shots are forward. And the reason for this, I think, is because it is so much more difficult and time consuming. You're at a spot and you're probably going to get busted within the hour, you want to get a good shot. There are hundreds of tricks you can do. Whats the incentive to mess around trying to figure out how to drop in switch.

That being said when people do hit urban features switch it's definitely noticed. For example, watching Will Wesson in the level 1 movies, guy is nuts.
Jun 7 2014 10:42AM
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Mr.Bishop
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RubberSoulnot to be a nitpicker but im pretty sure that didnt happen in 2001/2002


https://www.newschoolers.com/memberphoto/55606.5/-That-Bishop-is-soo-hot-right-now--?s=5904&o=8

That photo was taken summer 2002. That staircase rail slid about 20' away from the jump when there was a huge melt one night. Before we had a chance to fix it, Pep just rolled in and 270'd the gap like it was nothing.

So I don't know if you were insinuating that the timeline is too early or too late, but I can validify that it was exactly 2002. I don't think that was the first ever 270 on, but I just remember how crazy it was to see.
Jun 7 2014 1:33PM
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MousseauDom has a few good ones in here:

https://www.newschoolers.com/watch/707435.0/Tabarnak-Pack--The-Finale-


That last shot....
Jun 7 2014 8:20PM
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RubberSoul
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Mr.Bishophttps://www.newschoolers.com/memberphoto/55606.5/-That-Bishop-is-soo-hot-right-now--?s=5904&o=8

That photo was taken summer 2002. That staircase rail slid about 20' away from the jump when there was a huge melt one night. Before we had a chance to fix it, Pep just rolled in and 270'd the gap like it was nothing.

So I don't know if you were insinuating that the timeline is too early or too late, but I can validify that it was exactly 2002. I don't think that was the first ever 270 on, but I just remember how crazy it was to see.



holy shit youre totally right. his happy dayz segment (2002) even starts with him hitting that rail a bunch of times, including a 270 in.. my b!

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xua1l_pep-fujas_news

here's my question now though: why does he do a right 270 on but not left, when he naturally spins left and hits rails left foot forward? 'cause he's a boss' is probably the answer but shit, i dont remember seeing another 270 in for a bit after that, and his was rightside. but i guess maybe he did both and that one happened to look better for the shot or something idk

thanks for the post and story man, very cool
Jun 9 2014 9:29AM
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K_JIBS
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banks went switch two on in partly cloudy urban :E
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