Skier Popularity

constancy and comp results. You may see a relative unknown throw a double cork 12 mute but in reality that person might of taken 20 takes to get the trick, while Bobby, Gus etc have them dialed and can do them relatively every time.

Style. Its all about how pretty it looks to the judge or person viewing it. This also goes with how clean it is. Less waving arms, missed grabs, ect.

Style, consistency, and comp runs as stated above. But sometimes these people are or potentially can be just as good as pros.

I think this happens in a lot of sports/ hobbies. Like if you listen to covers of songs on YouTube, some people are extraordinary and better than a lot of signed artists. But they aren't as well known and they haven't gotten themselves out there yet. Although they're capable of being/ competing at that level, they just don't have the experience or connections I guess you could say. My impression and understanding of superunknown is for people like this who are good enough , they just haven't been noticed yet.

Everything stated above, and the fact you can't sponser everyone. Obviously every good skier can't be on the big teams and go to the Olympics, so they have to pick who reps their company/team the best

Marketing from their sponsors

The guys you listed are amazing skiers, but it sounds like you need some Eric Pollard in your life.

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/773284/EPOV--Eric-Pollard--39-s-Super-Segment

because you have aids

Consistency

Look at skateboarding. There's dozens of reasons why one person makes a splash and another doesn't.

I look at a guy like Mikey Taylor. He's a pro for DC, AWS, and several other big name sponsors. He competes in the Street League, goes on big trips and tours, and clocks big ads in the biggest publications.

And yet, there are dozens of ams and lesser pros who have much bigger bags of tricks. Mikey rarely flips his board and isn't even close to say Nyjah, P-Rod, Shane, etc. in terms of tech, style or consistency.

However, Mikey is 30, responsible, reliable, perpetually in a good mood, and by all accounts, one of the easiest guys to get along with. Not to mention, he was born and raised in the veritable skateboard center of the universe in southern california. Like it or not, someone's skill, flash and raw ability is almost never the sole determining factor in how far someone's exposure, career, and opportunities will go. If I'm a TM or a photographer/filmer, who do I want to work with consistently? The guy that lives in the sport's mecca and is surrounded by other pros and whom I also know personally and have had many positive experiences with? Or a 19 year old in Michigan who is a beast but is really full of himself (he's 19...and for probably 5 years has been the "local guy") who has never been away from home?

Then, you've got Forrest Edwards. He is the definition of a skate rat. He has literally some of the biggest and most gnarly, yet tech, tricks in all of skateboarding. He's like a Basiten Salabanzi. Super strong, and seems to be able to jump off of anything and does stupid hard tricks. Forrest is pretty young, and is a well-known kook and malcontent. The guy literally gets along with no one. I've heard he's growing up a bit, but the guy has done nothing to help himself in terms of his career off of his board, in fact he's done the opposite.

And sometimes it's less about what the individual is or isn't doing and is more about timing, place and who you know. Other times, it comes down to what an individual wants for themselves and what their goals are. All I'm saying is that a lot of times, there's a lot more to the picture than "skater or skier a is better than skater or skier b, therefore.."

casualLook at skateboarding. There's dozens of reasons why one person makes a splash and another doesn't.

I look at a guy like Mikey Taylor. He's a pro for DC, AWS, and several other big name sponsors. He competes in the Street League, goes on big trips and tours, and clocks big ads in the biggest publications.

And yet, there are dozens of ams and lesser pros who have much bigger bags of tricks. Mikey rarely flips his board and isn't even close to say Nyjah, P-Rod, Shane, etc. in terms of tech, style or consistency.

However, Mikey is 30, responsible, reliable, perpetually in a good mood, and by all accounts, one of the easiest guys to get along with. Not to mention, he was born and raised in the veritable skateboard center of the universe in southern california. Like it or not, someone's skill, flash and raw ability is almost never the sole determining factor in how far someone's exposure, career, and opportunities will go. If I'm a TM or a photographer/filmer, who do I want to work with consistently? The guy that lives in the sport's mecca and is surrounded by other pros and whom I also know personally and have had many positive experiences with? Or a 19 year old in Michigan who is a beast but is really full of himself (he's 19...and for probably 5 years has been the "local guy") who has never been away from home?

Then, you've got Forrest Edwards. He is the definition of a skate rat. He has literally some of the biggest and most gnarly, yet tech, tricks in all of skateboarding. He's like a Basiten Salabanzi. Super strong, and seems to be able to jump off of anything and does stupid hard tricks. Forrest is pretty young, and is a well-known kook and malcontent. The guy literally gets along with no one. I've heard he's growing up a bit, but the guy has done nothing to help himself in terms of his career off of his board, in fact he's done the opposite.

And sometimes it's less about what the individual is or isn't doing and is more about timing, place and who you know. Other times, it comes down to what an individual wants for themselves and what their goals are. All I'm saying is that a lot of times, there's a lot more to the picture than "skater or skier a is better than skater or skier b, therefore.."

well said!

casualLook at skateboarding. There's dozens of reasons why one person makes a splash and another doesn't.

I look at a guy like Mikey Taylor. He's a pro for DC, AWS, and several other big name sponsors. He competes in the Street League, goes on big trips and tours, and clocks big ads in the biggest publications.

And yet, there are dozens of ams and lesser pros who have much bigger bags of tricks. Mikey rarely flips his board and isn't even close to say Nyjah, P-Rod, Shane, etc. in terms of tech, style or consistency.

However, Mikey is 30, responsible, reliable, perpetually in a good mood, and by all accounts, one of the easiest guys to get along with. Not to mention, he was born and raised in the veritable skateboard center of the universe in southern california. Like it or not, someone's skill, flash and raw ability is almost never the sole determining factor in how far someone's exposure, career, and opportunities will go. If I'm a TM or a photographer/filmer, who do I want to work with consistently? The guy that lives in the sport's mecca and is surrounded by other pros and whom I also know personally and have had many positive experiences with? Or a 19 year old in Michigan who is a beast but is really full of himself (he's 19...and for probably 5 years has been the "local guy") who has never been away from home?

Then, you've got Forrest Edwards. He is the definition of a skate rat. He has literally some of the biggest and most gnarly, yet tech, tricks in all of skateboarding. He's like a Basiten Salabanzi. Super strong, and seems to be able to jump off of anything and does stupid hard tricks. Forrest is pretty young, and is a well-known kook and malcontent. The guy literally gets along with no one. I've heard he's growing up a bit, but the guy has done nothing to help himself in terms of his career off of his board, in fact he's done the opposite.

And sometimes it's less about what the individual is or isn't doing and is more about timing, place and who you know. Other times, it comes down to what an individual wants for themselves and what their goals are. All I'm saying is that a lot of times, there's a lot more to the picture than "skater or skier a is better than skater or skier b, therefore.."

did you do your term paper on this shit god damn

As it's been said, there's a bunch of factors other than the skiing itself that make a skier more well-known than an other, and that helps him to take his skiing further, to eventually make something out of his skiing. I've seen a couple of dudes throughout edits or at hills that I was like "fuck that dude's good, he could definitely do something with his skiing", but then you never hear of them again, or they may be putting out another edit someday, but who knows, because the guy himself doesn't really care, he isn't consistent with how hard he skis or with the content he puts out, or with his results in contests, or, maybe he's scared to push himself to the next level.

Exposure is really a big part of a skiing "career". If you look at some of the guys that are getting more recognition right now, like Khia Krepela for example, well he's been killing it for quite a while, I remember he filmed an edit at PC in 2011 I think and he was already a rail killer with his signature style. But in the past two seasons he's put out 3 banger park edits, he filmed with the LTC and now he's gonna have a segment with Level 1 I believe.

There's a couple of other dudes that have been killing it but didn't had the exposure they needed. Some always had, and some just don't really care or don't have the attitude so no one want's to work with them, it's all a question of motivation, hard work and opportunities, raw talent doesn't count for much (at least to me) in the end.

ANDR01DThe guys you listed are amazing skiers, but it sounds like you need some Eric Pollard in your life.

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/773284/EPOV--Eric-Pollard--39-s-Super-Segment

i think casual said it best, mikey taylor makes a very decent living and all hes been doing lately is skating the flatbar at the berrics. skater/skier coverage ultimately comes down to what sponsors you managed to get and how you work with others. there are photographers who simply refuse to shoot with a certain athlete because they are hard to work with

casualLook at skateboarding. There's dozens of reasons why one person makes a splash and another doesn't.

I look at a guy like Mikey Taylor. He's a pro for DC, AWS, and several other big name sponsors. He competes in the Street League, goes on big trips and tours, and clocks big ads in the biggest publications.

And yet, there are dozens of ams and lesser pros who have much bigger bags of tricks. Mikey rarely flips his board and isn't even close to say Nyjah, P-Rod, Shane, etc. in terms of tech, style or consistency.

However, Mikey is 30, responsible, reliable, perpetually in a good mood, and by all accounts, one of the easiest guys to get along with. Not to mention, he was born and raised in the veritable skateboard center of the universe in southern california. Like it or not, someone's skill, flash and raw ability is almost never the sole determining factor in how far someone's exposure, career, and opportunities will go. If I'm a TM or a photographer/filmer, who do I want to work with consistently? The guy that lives in the sport's mecca and is surrounded by other pros and whom I also know personally and have had many positive experiences with? Or a 19 year old in Michigan who is a beast but is really full of himself (he's 19...and for probably 5 years has been the "local guy") who has never been away from home?

Then, you've got Forrest Edwards. He is the definition of a skate rat. He has literally some of the biggest and most gnarly, yet tech, tricks in all of skateboarding. He's like a Basiten Salabanzi. Super strong, and seems to be able to jump off of anything and does stupid hard tricks. Forrest is pretty young, and is a well-known kook and malcontent. The guy literally gets along with no one. I've heard he's growing up a bit, but the guy has done nothing to help himself in terms of his career off of his board, in fact he's done the opposite.

And sometimes it's less about what the individual is or isn't doing and is more about timing, place and who you know. Other times, it comes down to what an individual wants for themselves and what their goals are. All I'm saying is that a lot of times, there's a lot more to the picture than "skater or skier a is better than skater or skier b, therefore.."

every person you named is in street league....do you know anything else about skateboarding..... you sound like the biggest faggot and this is the reason we have the whackest people being premoted in skiing , is because people like you (corporate minded) dont watch edits or dont know shit else about skiing other than whats on tv...

they both have like 3 triples in the bag dude

AWS

RIP ;(

skeazlaurenconstancy and comp results. You may see a relative unknown throw a double cork 12 mute but in reality that person might of taken 20 takes to get the trick, while Bobby, Gus etc have them dialed and can do them relatively every time.

i remember seeing bobby dub 10 first hit of the day at COC a couple years ago...

crazymofoevery person you named is in street league....do you know anything else about skateboarding..... you sound like the biggest faggot and this is the reason we have the whackest people being premoted in skiing , is because people like you (corporate minded) dont watch edits or dont know shit else about skiing other than whats on tv...

Well, the thread was specifically asking about competitive skiing, that's why I chose those people specifically to talk about. Do I need to prove my "street cred" to you? I'm 30 and have forgotten more about skateboarding and skiing than you'll ever know.

My favorite skaters right now are Leo Romero, Taylor Kirby (Shep Dawgs 4 part blew my mind), Colin Provost, Brandon Westgate, and.....OH NO! SLS PRO DYLAN RIEDER! What a tool! And about a dozen other dude. I'm obsessed with skate edits and skate flicks and have been since the days when I bought 411's on vhs at sub zero skate shop in philly. You know, back when you were playing with pokemon cards and riding your razor scooter in your stepdad's driveway with full pads on.

im the cewlest kid in skool. am i pro yet?

casualWell, the thread was specifically asking about competitive skiing, that's why I chose those people specifically to talk about. Do I need to prove my "street cred" to you? I'm 30 and have forgotten more about skateboarding and skiing than you'll ever know.

My favorite skaters right now are Leo Romero, Taylor Kirby (Shep Dawgs 4 part blew my mind), Colin Provost, Brandon Westgate, and.....OH NO! SLS PRO DYLAN RIEDER! What a tool! And about a dozen other dude. I'm obsessed with skate edits and skate flicks and have been since the days when I bought 411's on vhs at sub zero skate shop in philly. You know, back when you were playing with pokemon cards and riding your razor scooter in your stepdad's driveway with full pads on.

dude im 27 ,i bought fucking 13 from poorboyz on vhs... ill give you that taylor kirby is sick, my personal new favorite is Mark suciu, and Brian peacock.

crazymofodude im 27 ,i bought fucking 13 from poorboyz on vhs... ill give you that taylor kirby is sick, my personal new favorite is Mark suciu, and Brian peacock.

I like Suciu a lot.

I usually like people who either skate big, fast and gnarly or who are just too damn smooth and flowy. All these guys skating transition and gnarly pools and shit fast as fuck, but then can go out and step big gaps or handrails catch my attention.

I don't really like ledge dancing, and flip in/flip out grinds, especially on low ledges when the guy is barely rolling in and out of the trick. I respect the skill and precision, but it just doesn't appeal to me. I'm not ashamed to say that I like watching Street League. I could see where someone would have a skewed idea of what skating is or isn't if that was their only exposure, but for me, I just like seeing people like David, Austyn, Dylan, etc. skate a park in their own unique way. In my opinion it's the best skate contests have ever looked (the traditional kind of contests I mean, not KOTR or something). It's flawed, it clearly by definition favors a particular kind of skater and could never "crown" the best street skater because frankly the course can't contain the kind of street skating that seems the most progressive. All that aside, you still get to see some really ripping skaters do some gnarly and tech shit in a limited number of tries. I also like that the league tried to add some more varied skaters to freshen it up.

Contests in all "action sports" are almost by default besides the point and will never be as iconic or important as classic video parts, that's straight up fact, but I still like seeing the most consistent people drop hammers. If I can watch Evan Smith, Gilette, Rieder, Provost, Andrew Reynolds, Eric Koston, Trevor Colden, Luan, David, etc. all skate at one time in one place, I'm down.