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Are you liberal or conservative?

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milk_man
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john18061806 had the idea of seeing what NS thinks about this.

I feel like most of newschoolers is liberal, but I guess we'll find out here. I'm conservative, as you probably know if you've seen any of my posts.

Discuss. Tell us why you are conservative, or why you are liberal. Hopefully we get some legitimate answers because it would actually be a good read.


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Turd.Ferguson
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JAHpowI'm tea party conservative.


so basically a terrorist
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Phil-X-
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pussyfooterIt was me. Got a problem? Sorry you made a stupid fucking thread.



Jesus christ.. a thread about politics and you pull shit like this....


I dont care how shitty its content is, youre a dick and worst kind of mod
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Zimmerman
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AT-AT"The government is best which governs least."


Why do people cling to shitty slogans like these? Sure it sounds nice, but do you actually think precisely this?
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Zimmerman
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Phil-X-Jesus christ.. a thread about politics and you pull shit like this....


I dont care how shitty its content is, youre a dick and worst kind of mod


Hey fuck off that shit was funny
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Phil-X-
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ZimmermanHey fuck off that shit was funny


God damn it Zimmerman
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LIL_WAT
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Socially liberal, fiscally conservative
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deleted5
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milk_manI think I would still consider you liberal, under my ideas of the parties at least.


To me, the two options are more like two worldviews.


I think no one cares about your opinion, you're one of the least qualified people to be discussing this.
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milk_man
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zzzskizzzI think no one cares about your opinion, you're one of the least qualified people to be discussing this.


lol if you think that even the politicians are qualified..anyone can spout what they think, that's pretty much what politics are
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Mr.Huck
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LIL_WATSocially liberal, fiscally conservative


Not sure how it works in NZ, but in the U.S. that would mean that you are in favor of government run social programs, but are not in favor of funding them. Kind of like helping to feed the hungry by handing them free empty shopping bags.
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theabortionator
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stay in school milk man
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El_Barto.
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Mr.HuckNot sure how it works in NZ, but in the U.S. that would mean that you are in favor of government run social programs, but are not in favor of funding them. Kind of like helping to feed the hungry by handing them free empty shopping bags.


Im totally gonna start giving the homeless bags filled with nothing or bags filled with rotten food. Thanks for the idea
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Abu_Hajaar
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Rand paul 2016!
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Mr.Huck
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scott.studerRand paul 2016!


Meh. Dr. Ben Carson 2016

https://www.facebook.com/DrBenCarsonforPresident
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Scaredwhiteboy
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Condoleeza Rice 2016.
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louie.mirags
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I give this thread a 1/10
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fghtoffyrdmns
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I am neither, i would say the closest would be libertarian but they have some policies i am not super stoked on. The problem with america is the 2 party system.
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Scaredwhiteboy
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I don't really vote one way or the other, but I tend identify more with conservatives because liberals tend to be bigger assholes and bigger hypocrites. I can't remember the last time a conservative group raised a shitstorm because something that doesn't hurt them at all wasn't perfectly to their liking. Liberals do it all the time. Some recent examples:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/04/nyregion/rice-backs-out-of-rutgers-speech-after-student-protests.html

http://www.freep.com/article/20140424/NEWS06/304240177/BAMN-affirmative-action-protest-ann-arbor

http://www.newuniversity.org/2014/05/news/phi-delta-gamma-fiji-islander-party-called-racist/
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Mr.Huck
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ScaredwhiteboyCondoleeza Rice 2016.


She'd be great, but there is not even a hint that she is interested in running.
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deleted5
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milk_manlol if you think that even the politicians are qualified..anyone can spout what they think, that's pretty much what politics are


Again anyone can say whatever they want on politics, but you are one of the least qualified people to be discussing it.
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FrenchFry
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I'm an anarchist
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Emma_Watson
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omg is NS a old, white, Christian, gun-toting, gay hating, John Boehner?
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Emma_Watson
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LIL_WATSocially liberal, fiscally conservative


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Bodhisattva_
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milk_manWell it's basically what our political system is in America. Those two groups make up the huge majority of what everyone believes politically.


Man someone has got you drinking ALL the Kool-Aid....
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Emma_Watson
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If NS were to be a political party, what would be its platform?












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John18_6
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Emma_WatsonIf NS were to be a political party, what would be its platform?


Your mom because she Is the only thing fat enough to support us all.
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milk_man
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zzzskizzzAgain anyone can say whatever they want on politics, but you are one of the least qualified people to be discussing it.


And I am least qualified how?
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Bodhisattva_
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milk_manAnd I am least qualified how?


Because you're

1) Of less than average intelligence

2) Young

3) Have no background in world/domestic affairs or any political knowledge other than what you gained from the internet

4) You haven't studied politics

5) You can't define politics without looking it up

6) Are a fucking worthless spouting bible thumping idiot
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ModMommy
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Conservative, but I'm sure as hell not in the Tea Party.
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AT-AT
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ZimmermanWhy do people cling to shitty slogans like these? Sure it sounds nice, but do you actually think precisely this?


Because Henry Thoreau had a great perspective, and because i just want to be left alone. I can live without the "assistance" of government.

The only purpose of government should be to protect us from foreign governments, and establish a fair court of law.
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milk_man
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Thizzle.6) Are a fucking worthless spouting bible thumping idiot


This is why non christians are so so stupid


It's so hard to have respect for them
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Bodhisattva_
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milk_manThis is why non christians are so so stupid


It's so hard to have respect for them


Well see that would be true if I thought that about ALL conservative Christians, but I don't. I didn't make that statement simply because I disagree with your beliefs, I'm not a bigot. I made that statement because you yourself have conclusively proven that to be true with nearly every post. There are Christian conservatives who would command a lot of respect from me that I would never dare call a bible-thumping idiot because they are far from it. You on the other hand....
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milk_man
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Thizzle.Well see that would be true if I thought that about ALL conservative Christians, but I don't. I didn't make that statement simply because I disagree with your beliefs, I'm not a bigot. I made that statement because you yourself have conclusively proven that to be true with nearly every post. There are Christian conservatives who would command a lot of respect from me that I would never dare call a bible-thumping idiot because they are far from it. You on the other hand....


I believe the same things as them


We're different yet we're the same
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TOAST.
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AT-ATBecause Henry Thoreau had a great perspective, and because i just want to be left alone. I can live without the "assistance" of government.

The only purpose of government should be to protect us from foreign governments, and establish a fair court of law.


Really? Stop using anything that is publicly funded, let me know how it goes.
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Anathema
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AT-AT
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TOAST.Really? Stop using anything that is publicly funded, let me know how it goes.


That was my opinion, thank you for the input on it. You did little to change it though.
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neutralzombie
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i read "are you a blind liberal conservative?"
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deleted5
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AT-ATThat was my opinion, thank you for the input on it. You did little to change it though.


You realize you're saying that on the Internet, do you know how that became a thing?
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AT-AT
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zzzskizzzYou realize you're saying that on the Internet, do you know how that became a thing?


a lot of individuals time and hard work.
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deleted5
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AT-ATa lot of individuals time and hard work.


Well you seem very informed, and you clearly know what you're talking about, so you definitely have validity in your opinion on politics.
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lIllI
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AT-ATBecause Henry Thoreau had a great perspective, and because i just want to be left alone. I can live without the "assistance" of government.

The only purpose of government should be to protect us from foreign governments, and establish a fair court of law.


Half of understanding Thoreau is knowing the various ways in which he was wrong.

I love his work. He was a very wise man with some very valid ideas. Unfortunately, many of them are not feasible for anyone but a minority of privileged individuals (such as himself). It's pretty easy to be idealistic when you're the king of trustafarians, isn't it?
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Aharrelson358
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I'm definitely a member of The Rent Is Too Damn High Party
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milk_man
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zzzskizzzWell you seem very informed, and you clearly know what you're talking about, so you definitely have validity in your opinion on politics.


To belittle someone is to be little



hahahahaha
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AT-AT
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lIllIHalf of understanding Thoreau is knowing the various ways in which he was wrong.

I love his work. He was a very wise man with some very valid ideas. Unfortunately, many of them are not feasible for anyone but a minority of privileged individuals (such as himself). It's pretty easy to be idealistic when you're the king of trustafarians, isn't it?


True. That can be said of all ideological thinkers. There is no perfect system and utopia can never exist. As the human is the building block of society, and since the human is imperfect, society will always fail to be perfect.

Collective responsibility is an interesting concept and is one I struggle constantly with in thought. I do no wish to be "imprisoned" by others who willingly walk into "imprisonment." Democracy does not solve the problem, as it places the collective in control. Freedom is living without hindrance, and the biggest hindrance to man is other men.
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DasGoatenshafter
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.MASSHOLE.Ditto.

Fiscally conservative (big governments cant spend money well)

Socially liberal (I dont care who you sleep with or marry. Guns should be more strictly regulated)

Libertarian is where I would fall but that party is too small in the US.



I've always found this a compelling argument. In Canada, it was the liberals who got us out of a deficit, not the conservatives back in the day. I don't know jack shit about politics, but I think its fair to say that any government has the potential to handle money well, regardless of the size of the social programs, but usually they don't for a vast number of reasons.
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fghtoffyrdmns
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ZimmermanWhy do people cling to shitty slogans like these? Sure it sounds nice, but do you actually think precisely this?


Alot of people genuinely believe this, as do I. The federal government does not represent the will of the people for the most part.
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cobra_commander
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Unsigned free agent
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Mixy
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I hate political threads more than I hate OP
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milk_man
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1337I hate political threads more than I hate OP


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Bombogenesis
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Near the middle but definitely right leaning. Fiscally very right leaning.


Most librul policies are just sickening. This "everyone is a winner" mentality is horse shit. All this "point your finger at another classmate and say bang" and you get a week suspension is horse shit.

Most liberal financial policies work to keep people who are down ... Well down and never pull them up.


Totally fine with gay marriage though. Abortion is bullshit except in cases of rape...medical need etc. However i don't know that it should be illegal. It's just sad that sluts bang tons of dudes then get abortions which are paid for by tax payer money in some cases.


I'm drunk but I laid it out for you so hate all you want.
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Bombogenesis
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^^ ps I'm not religious at all.



I hope everyone who says "socially liberal fiscally conservative" realizes at this point that it is imperative that they vote for the fiscally superior candidate and not the socially superior candidate.


Social issues need to take a major backseat for a while. The fact that these politicians swoon certain demographics with promises of gay rights and legal abortion and free healthcare etc etc and then vote on policies that shit on our economy is disgusting.
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