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Progression of the sport is too damn fast

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Garrett_Coleman
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At the rate that slopestyle is progressing, I feel that it is near impossible for competitive amateurs to keep up with the pro level... Thoughts?
May 2 2014 7:06PM
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jsnow
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man up dont be a bitch.
May 2 2014 7:12PM
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Garrett_Coleman
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skiforce1man up dont be a bitch.

Bite me..
May 2 2014 7:13PM
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tdollo
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I feel that the sport will hit a point that no bigger trick can be thrown and it will just turn into who can put more style into it.
May 2 2014 7:18PM
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iggyskier
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For what it is worth, the whole sport has been elevated. There are tons of amateur level skiers that impress the hell out of me right now. The ones that are talented enough, work hard enough, and are in the right situation might become more. The rate of progression is what it is.

tdolloI feel that the sport will hit a point that no bigger trick can be thrown and it will just turn into who can put more style into it.


At some point, the tech side of things will definitely slow down and the style side of things will become more important.
May 2 2014 7:21PM
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broto
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unless you're skiing solely to go pro, (which you shouldn't be) why is the level of skiing relevant to you? nobody is going to tell you that professional freeskiing is a good career path choice. ski to have fun and if you find yourself on top of the podium at dew then all power to you!
May 2 2014 7:28PM
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louie.mirags
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Amateurs/pro-am's will keep up because what is possible is always being redefined. Either go bigger/add style or you can't consider yourself on that level.
May 2 2014 7:47PM
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TopherRitz
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No, and heres why.

1. Rate of progression increases.
2. People do stuff that seems crazy to people outside the sport.
3. Sport gets more publicity.
4. Sport gets more money, which means more advertising, which means even more publicity.
5. Kids are introduced to sport at a younger age, older kids/teens get more stoked on slopstyle.
6. Motivated ams progress quickly, get into the comp scene, push older pros to progress

And the cycle of progression repeats. Its kinda like this in every sport. Slopestyle is still a really young sport so the rate of progression seems really fast. Ams just have to put the work in to progess the sport.
May 2 2014 8:14PM
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Big.Bird
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Skiing will survive. It's cool as fuck
May 2 2014 8:43PM
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fruitstick
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brotounless you're skiing solely to go pro, (which you shouldn't be)


Why shouldn't he be, beats having a shitty office job you the rest of your life.
May 2 2014 9:40PM
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broto
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fruitstickWhy shouldn't he be, beats having a shitty office job you the rest of your life.


Because its not realistic. Op said it himself. The pros are at such an insane level that its stupid to ski for the sole purpose of trying to make it a career. I wouldn't fall back on it.
May 2 2014 9:51PM
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K-Dot.
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Thankfully we have women's skiing! Am I right guys???
May 2 2014 9:53PM
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fruitstick
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brotoBecause its not realistic. Op said it himself. The pros are at such an insane level that its stupid to ski for the sole purpose of trying to make it a career. I wouldn't fall back on it.


New people are always going to come through no matter how good PROs are.
If you have a chance at it a person should go for it
May 2 2014 10:06PM
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fruitstick
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brotoBecause its not realistic. Op said it himself. The pros are at such an insane level that its stupid to ski for the sole purpose of trying to make it a career. I wouldn't fall back on it.


New people are always going to come through no matter how good PROs are.
If you have a chance at it a person (in general)should go for it
May 2 2014 10:07PM
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broto
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fruitstickIf you have a chance at it a person (in general)should go for it


I'd you already have a decent chance yeah pursue it. If you're an average skier and you want to go pro then ski for fun until you're in such a position. Its important for people to realize that time may never come
May 2 2014 10:20PM
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RudyGarmisch
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It took Freeskiing 10+ years to go from single inversions to double flips. It took less than half that to get to triples. Rising Ams will always be outpacing the professionals because humans learn best through imitation. Tricks are mentally almost easier to learn if you know that it's been done before.
May 2 2014 10:37PM
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nutz.
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Quads?

http://unofficialnetworks.com/stomp-quadruple-backflip-skis-120058/
May 2 2014 10:55PM
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theabortionator
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Honestly other than triple corks a lot of random kids on the mountain are killing it stupidly hard and could compete with some of the big names.

The only real divide I see is in the multiple inversion tricks. Even back when 900s were winning contests you weren't seeing people throw them everyday. The level of all around riding has gone up substantially in the last decade.

There are still plenty of unknown shredders throwing down. Wait for the next generation of kids. At some of the big mountains you have a few local rippers that nobody has ever heard of chucking dubs on the big jumplines, especially in the spring. The young kids that are just getting into park are seeing all these ridiculous tricks and knowing that they are possible. I'm not saying that everyone will be throwing triples in the park, but it won't seem nearly as impossible as it does to older people.

At some point there's a limit to how much you can spin off a jump. The jumps can grow a bit but you're still not going to get much more than 1 inversion out of it and I don't see that really catching on in the every day setting.

I wonder where the sport will go when it's no longer about adding that next 180 onto your 900 or 4beefing that 450 up to a 630.
May 3 2014 5:07AM
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Randel
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brotounless you're skiing solely to go pro, (which you shouldn't be) why is the level of skiing relevant to you? nobody is going to tell you that professional freeskiing is a good career path choice. ski to have fun and if you find yourself on top of the podium at dew then all power to you!



That's the wonderful thing about skiing. If you have fun doing it awesome. If you have fun winning awesome. The sport literally has two sides.
May 3 2014 11:01AM
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404404
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It has always been hard for AMs to keep up with "pro" but what it comes down to is where you ski. If your skiing Breck, Keystone, Whis, or any park with good jumps then you can.

I dont know who Tyler Wilson is but he is doing a sick triple.

https://www.newschoolers.com/watch/709908.0/Triples-are-the-new-dubs?c=1&o=10&t=6

Trip will be the new dub, and quad will be the new trip. Its only a matter of time.
May 3 2014 1:47PM
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sleepyhollow
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it's cool that people can do triples and have experimented with them, but the fact that it's come to the point in competitions where you cant even have a chance at winning a major podium without one is weak. If anything this will intimidate new amateur competitors and we will see a decline in the newcomers to the sport. aka triples are killing skiing. (just my opinion)
May 3 2014 2:22PM
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Hideyamama
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I dont like the way it go more and more athlete are starting to be gymnaste not skier... I my opinion there should be more original stuff try to innovate like Vinny$$ with is sick steeze. STYLE>SPIN
May 3 2014 2:39PM
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jpastor
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there should be comps where you have a limit on how many spins/flips you can do. Like the maximum spins per jump would be a 1080 or 1260 and no triple allowed, even no doubles allowed


Also, i always think about this but comparing the progression of skateboarding to skiing i would say that we are where skateboading was in the 90s or early 2000s. I think. what do you guys think about this.
May 3 2014 3:47PM
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HuckNorris44
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Skiing has definitely progressed past snowboarding and at a must faster rate.
May 3 2014 5:26PM
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ski0
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^ why do you think skiing has progressed past snowboarding? I dont agree at all
May 3 2014 5:43PM
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Dlud
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People were saying the exact same thing 6 or 7 years ago when dubs were starting to be thrown by pros. Now that doubles are in the realm of possibility for an amateur, pros are getting more advanced as well. If you are naturally talented and train enough, you could be on the leading edge too.

That being said, don't be a pussy, ski for fun
May 3 2014 6:11PM
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MLJ
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jpastorthere should be comps where you have a limit on how many spins/flips you can do. Like the maximum spins per jump would be a 1080 or 1260 and no triple allowed, even no doubles allowed


Also, i always think about this but comparing the progression of skateboarding to skiing i would say that we are where skateboading was in the 90s or early 2000s. I think. what do you guys think about this.


So basically aerials...
I watched it at the olympics and everyone did the same dam laydouble whatever, and it was so boring because they are restricted in what they can do. I disagree 100%
May 3 2014 6:41PM
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BlueVillain
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ParryWithAnATrip will be the new dub, and quad will be the new trip. Its only a matter of time.


This. I never really believed that quads would be possible but I saw so much clean triples being thrown this winter that i'm pretty sure someone will throw a quadruple at least once. I don't think it's gonna be common though but hey, I thought the same about triples and they're getting pretty casual. They don't even seem hard (i'm not saying i would do one haha).
May 3 2014 7:29PM
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TheBigApple
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If it makes you feel any better I have been stuck on 7's for about a decade.
May 3 2014 8:07PM
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jpastor
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MLJSo basically aerials...
I watched it at the olympics and everyone did the same dam laydouble whatever, and it was so boring because they are restricted in what they can do. I disagree 100%


i was implementing that style would be the focus, so lets change it. how about a comp where you cant double or triple and everything would focused on style kinda like the B&E Invitational.

Old school JOI comps had like best single trick. Daffy,spread eagle,twister etc.
best 360,540,720,900,1080,1260 etc
May 3 2014 8:25PM
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skier58284
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OP, professional freeskiing is a good career path choice.

brotonobody is going to tell you that professional freeskiing is a good career path choice.


What?
May 3 2014 10:32PM
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APunx176
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brotounless you're skiing solely to go pro, (which you shouldn't be) why is the level of skiing relevant to you? nobody is going to tell you that professional freeskiing is a good career path choice. ski to have fun and if you find yourself on top of the podium at dew then all power to you!


A agree with this guy too, but I also agree with you a bit. I dread the day that a quad is thrown.
May 3 2014 11:08PM
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casey_cope
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Hate to say it but what I'm guessing will happen is that skiing will hit a really insane point and injures and stuff will cause to skiing to slowly deprogress but then reprogress.
May 3 2014 11:52PM
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Whydoineedthis
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K-Dot.Thankfully we have women's skiing! Am I right guys???


Thank god im getting that plastic surgery next week
May 4 2014 1:07AM
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