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Whats a toe cap?

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K_JIBS
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whats a toe cap?
Apr 18 2014 6:59AM
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tomPietrowski
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Could be a few things. We use toe caps when molding intuition liners. Its a foam cap that goes over the toes to push the heel back and give a better mold.
Apr 18 2014 7:06AM
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S.J.W
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Apr 18 2014 8:45AM
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Apr 18 2014 10:35AM
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.nasty
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tomPietrowskiCould be a few things. We use toe caps when molding intuition liners. Its a foam cap that goes over the toes to push the heel back and give a better mold.


it also expands the toe area in an intuition to alleviate pressure, which is the most common use for a toe cap.
Apr 18 2014 10:55AM
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Balto
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tomPietrowskiCould be a few things. We use toe caps when molding intuition liners. Its a foam cap that goes over the toes to push the heel back and give a better mold.


If you need to use a toe cap to push your heal back you need to learn to put on a ski boot, they are for increasing volume in the toe box when molding, and not specific to intuitions
Apr 18 2014 11:01AM
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.nasty
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BaltoIf you need to use a toe cap to push your heal back you need to learn to put on a ski boot, they are for increasing volume in the toe box when molding, and not specific to intuitions


I wasn't gonna say anything like the first part, but yeah thomas is right. haha TOE caps are for the TOES.
Apr 18 2014 11:07AM
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b-kul
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its like a beanie for your toes.
Apr 18 2014 11:13AM
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tomPietrowski
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I was waiting for you guys to say I was wrong but think about it. Only intutions have heat mold foam round the toes. So yes on intuitionms you will create soime more toe room, but having the extra volume at the toes makes your foot longer. This in tern pushes your heel back further. OIt is actually this which creates the toe room. In most liners you can toe cap to create toe room even though there is no heat mold foam in the toes. It all actually comes from the back of the liner.

Weird concept top get I know, but yeah often you will use toe caps to create space in a more indirect manner.
Apr 18 2014 11:21AM
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Balto
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tomPietrowskiI was waiting for you guys to say I was wrong but think about it. Only intutions have heat mold foam round the toes. So yes on intuitionms you will create soime more toe room, but having the extra volume at the toes makes your foot longer. This in tern pushes your heel back further. OIt is actually this which creates the toe room. In most liners you can toe cap to create toe room even though there is no heat mold foam in the toes. It all actually comes from the back of the liner.

Weird concept top get I know, but yeah often you will use toe caps to create space in a more indirect manner.


The amount that thin pliable neoprene would be able to push your heal back in a properly fitting boot would be next to nothing, again you need to learn to pout on a ski boot if you think you are actually being aided in setting your heal with the use of a toe cap.
Apr 18 2014 11:26AM
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tomPietrowski
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BaltoThe amount that thin pliable neoprene would be able to push your heal back in a properly fitting boot would be next to nothing, again you need to learn to pout on a ski boot if you think you are actually being aided in setting your heal with the use of a toe cap.


Oh yeah if you were using those super thin ones it would do very little. We use the 32 ones thgough which are a foam. They make the foot bigger so work very effectivly for intial molding.

If you think about it the liner mainly packs out and gets bigger because the foam behind the heel and ankle is compressed. This is the same thing we are doing with toe caps. We are just speeding up the bedding in of the foam to make the toes comfier from day one.

I speak to lots of fitters who do think its to push the toe out only, but once you relise its actually working more on the back of the liner you can do some interesting fitting solutions for customers.
Apr 18 2014 11:33AM
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onenerdykid
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While toe caps definitely have a few uses, Tom is definitely right in saying that toe caps push the foot back into the heel pocket of a warm, soft Intuition/Palau liner. Toe caps are also used when making a foam injection liner for this very purpose; they do not create any space in the toe on their own (in a foam liner), but they force the foot back into the heel pocket during the foaming process.
Apr 18 2014 6:58PM
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tomPietrowski
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onenerdykidWhile toe caps definitely have a few uses, Tom is definitely right in saying that toe caps push the foot back into the heel pocket of a warm, soft Intuition/Palau liner. Toe caps are also used when making a foam injection liner for this very purpose; they do not create any space in the toe on their own (in a foam liner), but they force the foot back into the heel pocket during the foaming process.


Yeah foam liners are a great example of how space can be created in the toes in a more indirect manner.
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