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Rodeo vs. Flatspin

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LamieJ
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alright NS, time to decide

Same or different?
Mar 24 2014 4:43PM
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broto
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both
Mar 24 2014 4:50PM
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eheath
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In reality, the phrases are interchangeable. Everyone calls rodeos flatspins, barely anyone does real "flat spins" example:

(3rd trick around 6 sec)


he never goes inverted, meaning its a flat spin.


BUT everyone calls wackflips/rodeo 3s "flat 3s" so like I said, its interchangeable.
Mar 24 2014 5:02PM
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galardogod
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A rodeo is set forward and then you roll backhttp://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PVxul3gAGTs as described in this video. A flat spin is straight back and over your shoulderhttp://m.youtube.com/watch?v=54MUnGKtFMQ As described here +k for embeding
Mar 24 2014 5:28PM
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John18_6
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I consider both rodeos, flatspin is more of a sideflip than set back (as andreas does). If anything, TJ is closer to doing a flatspin in my opinion.

Mar 24 2014 5:39PM
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Miomo
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Wow never seen this thread before.
Mar 24 2014 5:56PM
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eheath
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I would say theyre the other way around, that first one he doesnt really go inverted and andreas is definitely a rodeo.


As i said before, theyre interchangeable, everyone says it differently.
Mar 24 2014 6:33PM
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LamieJ
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the word flatspin makes it less of a flip and more of a spin. TJ's "rodeo" never goes upside down and his feet never go above his head, while andreas' is clearly more flippy and less spinny. If a flatspin and a rodeo are different then I agree with pussyfooter, the rodeo is the more flippy one and the flatspin is more spinny.
Mar 24 2014 6:39PM
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Dustin.
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As Heath already said, people pretty much just say whatever they want nowadays. However....a rodeo is an inverted trick. A flatspin is not.

Rodeo 5, for example, feels like a backflip/180 kind of throw to make it happen. You see the landing once the sky flips by.

Flat 5 feels like sitting in a chair and reaching around your body for the grab. You aren't inverted, and you turn your head level to spot the landing.

Watch Tom Wallisch throw huge flat 5's in Turbo and tell me you can't tell the difference, his are perfect.
Mar 25 2014 2:27AM
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hippapatumus
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I think that the difference between rodeo and flat spin is that a flat spin is set back, a rodeo u set forward and up, like u set the direction of bio but set ur hips toward the sky versus in bio u set everything down. Just my opinion
Mar 25 2014 2:33AM
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Alvaro
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rodeos are set back, mistys are set foward, flatspins are just flat (kind of in between rodeos and mistys)

Mar 25 2014 10:25AM
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John18_6
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But the bigger question is..... are you ready to do a rodeo?
Mar 25 2014 10:36AM
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galardogod
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This
Mar 25 2014 11:31AM
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Alvaro
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this is how i learned to do flatspins, i don`t know if im setting back or foward, it just feels like a 360 with my legs in front of me
Mar 25 2014 12:03PM
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John18_6
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Just keep doing exactly what you're doing, that last one is the most legit tramp flatspin I've ever seen. Teach me.
Mar 25 2014 12:54PM
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FuckAllOfYou
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that last one was great
Mar 25 2014 7:36PM
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Johngreenacre
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Alvarothis is how i learned to do flatspins, i don`t know if im setting back or foward, it just feels like a 360 with my legs in front of me


This is the best vid if flatspin on tramp. Damn I gotta learn this now.
Nov 30 2014 5:18PM
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T-Holt
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In a rodeo your skis are like this || in a flat spin they are like this =

Think TJ's bow and arrow grabs in Seven Sunny Days for rodeos.

@ 1:42

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/640587/TJ-Schiller

Here's a flat 5 tutorial with Tammy Whamsticks.

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/740662/How-to-spin-a-flat-5-----with-Tom-Wallisch

Notice the orientation of the skis to the ground. A rodeo is like lying on your back and spinning on the ground and a flat spin is like lying on your side and spinning on the ground.
Nov 30 2014 8:26PM
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Alvaro
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Nippolas.CageIn a rodeo your skis are like this || in a flat spin they are like this =


the way the skis move doesnt affect the trick, those two videos are flatspins with diferent grabs ( when wallisch does a bow and arrow, his skis are also like this || )
rodeo = feet go over your head
flatspin = feet dont go over your head
Nov 30 2014 8:49PM
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