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PacificRimJob
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Might as well be time to have a dedicated thread on this. Call it a consolidation if you will (or at least another thread to chat about our artz)

Ask film related questions... Post film related discussion topics... Get stoked on real photography with real cameras with real reels of real film...
Mar 18 2014 1:13PM
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PacificRimJob
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Part of me wants to say it could also have something to do with agitation?


Apr 2 2014 9:50AM
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loganimlach
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Do go on... I'm completely open to lessons here
Apr 2 2014 11:07AM
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Sklar
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I'm waiting for Thomas to develop my first roll. Wooo!
Apr 2 2014 11:52AM
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PacificRimJob
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How much agitation did you go with on the tank? I mean, if it was left to stand for too long without being rolled over, perhaps that entire area of your film strip just didn't receive enough developer or fixer in the first place. Seems like it's in the same place on the film.

Not positive about it being the actual issue, but it's certainly the first thing that came to mind for me. If your'e using a really large tank (you did say you were using a pretty large devo tank..), and the amount of developer/fixer used was sitting only as high up on the negative as what's developed, and then left to stand rather than receiving constant agitation as it probably needed, then it COULD lead to this.

I don't know. I've never really seen this kinda thing before so I'm pondering the possibilities.
Apr 2 2014 3:15PM
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PacificRimJob
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...okay now I went back and actually really read your comments on the previous page and it looks like we came to the same conclusion. Lol.
Apr 2 2014 3:17PM
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loganimlach
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tried my hand at both sprocket hole photos and push processing in the same swoop. failed miserably on both fronts by not advancing the film far enough on each frame and also pushing the development when it really wasn't necessary. it was all guesswork anyways on the holga. the only frames that actually came out were horribly underexposed and i tried to get rid of the yellow hue but pretty much all detail leaves with it.

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i'm so stoked having fun and learning this shit though haha.
Apr 6 2014 2:19PM
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PacificRimJob
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Getting some startrails done tonight while I work.

Using my old FE that doesn't work outside of B and M90 mode. Because it's just about useless otherwise.. :(
Apr 7 2014 1:03AM
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Balto
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My guy at the local shop got me a really good deal on a lens hood and cap for my cron, saved me $100

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Apr 7 2014 6:47PM
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Brule.
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I just got into film photography thanks to the photography class I'm currently in at my school and I've been enjoying it. I just need to become more familiar with developing the film reel after taking photos.
Apr 7 2014 9:35PM
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cwphoto
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i finally got one of the two cameras i bought on ebay, still waiting on the Fed 3 out of the ukraine. ae-1 with the 50mm kit, 28mm wide angle, 28-210, 135, sunpak flash, and a ton of cool filters. i got the ektar 100 after the pictures were posted above ^, thanks for the help! i also picked up a b&w roll of fomapan 200 and velvia 100. i can't wait to get out and shoot with it!


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Apr 7 2014 11:33PM
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zahava
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Fuck you not so dark darkroom. #lightleakz
Apr 8 2014 8:52AM
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Balto
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3/4 of the film you use end up with light leaks
Apr 8 2014 10:04AM
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1337
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His skull has a light leak
Apr 8 2014 10:54AM
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No.Quarter
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DingoSeanGetting some startrails done tonight while I work.

Using my old FE that doesn't work outside of B and M90 mode. Because it's just about useless otherwise.. :(


Please post up pics if they turn out good. Probably too late, but if you remember camera settings that would be cool too.
Apr 9 2014 12:03AM
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cwphoto
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Alright guys, i really need your help with this one. I got the battery for my new ae-1, and it does work. That "oh shit" moment. I know what it is, its the advance lever. If you pull it back to advance the film, it moves, but i can feel that nothing is moving on the inside. I really dont have the money to mail this to someone and spend ~$100 to repair it. I think the "advance coupling plate" is whats causing the problem. Is there any way for me to fix this? Its breaking my heart to just look at this camera but not use it. Thanks!
Apr 9 2014 1:05AM
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Laurent.
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Unless it's for say a Leica usually any problem with a film camera is too expensive to make a repair worthwhile.
The film advance not working can be something very simple, (advance lever coming unscrewed over time) to a complete clusterfuck of stripped and broken gearing.
Apr 9 2014 1:23AM
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PacificRimJob
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JakeSmithPlease post up pics if they turn out good. Probably too late, but if you remember camera settings that would be cool too.


I'll post when I get the film processed, but for the way the light was for me, I shot for like 3 hours at F22 while using an ND8 filter at 20mm.
Apr 9 2014 1:35AM
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DIPED_IN_SAUCE
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I got into B&W last year, and got myself a minolta srt-102 with a 50mm prime and a vivitar 70-210. I want to start doing color, whats a good cheap film for this setup, and where do I buy it?
Thanks
Apr 9 2014 2:07AM
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TijmenDal
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Kodak Gold 200 is pretty hard to beat. Fuji Superia looks great in tungsten lighting I think. But I can't recommend Fuji films, or else Balto'll get mad.
Apr 9 2014 4:36AM
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PacificRimJob
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TijmenDalI can't recommend Fuji films, or else Balto'll get mad.


Bahaha!

But honestly, just go with any cheap colour film you can find. I shit you not, I've gone to walmart and picked up 4packs of Fujicolor 200 24exp for like 3-4 bucks on occasion, simply because it's too cheap to pass up.

Is it the best film? eh.. there's better, but really, for the price who cares, it's film.
Apr 9 2014 5:01AM
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hahaha

Here in the uk they sell super cheap colour print film in £1 shops. It doesn't actually look that bad, but the only guys I know who use it shoot sports with F5's and 1V's that shoot like 10fps. I can't comprehend the mechanisms involved with shooting film that fast, or the cost of it haha
Apr 9 2014 7:36AM
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Laurent.
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*DUMBCAN*hahaha

Here in the uk they sell super cheap colour print film in £1 shops. It doesn't actually look that bad, but the only guys I know who use it shoot sports with F5's and 1V's that shoot like 10fps. I can't comprehend the mechanisms involved with shooting film that fast, or the cost of it haha




If you want to get serious though with sports get the super rare Canon F1 High speed from 1984.

14FPS and a body roughly the size of northhamptonshire.

Apr 9 2014 8:58AM
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Balto
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TijmenDalKodak Gold 200 is pretty hard to beat. Fuji Superia looks great in tungsten lighting I think. But I can't recommend Fuji films, or else Balto'll get mad.


Yep go buy film from a cosmetics and health supplements company instead of one that actually supports film and it's users, seems logical
Apr 9 2014 11:19AM
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Laurent.
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BaltoYep go buy film from a cosmetics and health supplements company instead of one that actually supports film and it's users, seems logical


But, but mah Velvia.
Apr 9 2014 3:14PM
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plorr
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BaltoYep go buy film from a cosmetics and health supplements company instead of one that actually supports film and it's users, seems logical


Excuse my ignorance but care to elaborate on this hatred for Fuji you have?

Seeing that they are one of a handful of companies who still manufacture film at all, and still produce new medium format cameras, it would seem to me they are marginally concerned with supporting film users?

I have no allegiance to Fuji and I don't really ever buy their film b/c I don't shoot color slides hardly ever, but I'm just out of the loop as to where the hate comes from.
Apr 9 2014 3:27PM
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vandersteeze
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Threads.

Selling all my shit and will shoot with a contax t2 + pakon combo for maximum effect
Apr 9 2014 4:55PM
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Balto
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plorrExcuse my ignorance but care to elaborate on this hatred for Fuji you have?

Seeing that they are one of a handful of companies who still manufacture film at all, and still produce new medium format cameras, it would seem to me they are marginally concerned with supporting film users?

I have no allegiance to Fuji and I don't really ever buy their film b/c I don't shoot color slides hardly ever, but I'm just out of the loop as to where the hate comes from.


Fuji hates film photography and hates production of it, the costs are to steep for them and they want out. Bellamy at JCH did a good write up on them back in 2012 I'll link bellow. I love fuji films, I have shit loads of it in my freezer, but they will not get a single cent more out of me as they have made it clear they do not want to be apart of this business, so instead I will buy products from Kodak Alaris and Ilford, both whom have made clear their commitment to film. Those brands want to be keep making film, so support them so they can afford to instead of giving fuji money to make makeup and vitamins for drug stores in Japan
Apr 9 2014 4:58PM
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Balto
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Sorry forgot the JCH link:
http://www.japancamerahunter.com/2012/07/why-does-fujifilm-hate-its-customers/
Apr 9 2014 4:59PM
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plorr
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BaltoFuji hates film photography and hates production of it, the costs are to steep for them and they want out. Bellamy at JCH did a good write up on them back in 2012 I'll link bellow. I love fuji films, I have shit loads of it in my freezer, but they will not get a single cent more out of me as they have made it clear they do not want to be apart of this business, so instead I will buy products from Kodak Alaris and Ilford, both whom have made clear their commitment to film. Those brands want to be keep making film, so support them so they can afford to instead of giving fuji money to make makeup and vitamins for drug stores in Japan


Good to know. Velvia 50 obviously rules and I also really like Acros 100. Ive got a couple boxes of each in my freezer. I guess I'll just have to learn to love Ektar and Delta 100 though.
Apr 9 2014 5:33PM
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TijmenDal
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plorrGood to know. Velvia 50 obviously rules and I also really like Acros 100. Ive got a couple boxes of each in my freezer. I guess I'll just have to learn to love Ektar and Delta 100 though.


Ilford films are friggin great I think. I haven't got much experience with them, but they're awesome, albeit a bit more expensive in general.

I really don't care Fuji is getting out of the film business too much. It's a shame their slide films will be gone, and the instant film for the people that shoot it (I don't, but I think it's awesome), but it just makes the number of manufacturers smaller, which'll only increase the sales of the few(er) number of film manufacturers around. Oh, and Acros is a great film. I'll miss that, but it's nothing irreplacable.
Apr 9 2014 7:27PM
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No.Quarter
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DIPED_IN_SAUCEI got into B&W last year, and got myself a minolta srt-102 with a 50mm prime and a vivitar 70-210. I want to start doing color, whats a good cheap film for this setup, and where do I buy it?
Thanks


A lot of the shots on my flickr page are with cheapo drugstore film. Link is in my profile.
Apr 10 2014 1:51AM
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TijmenDal
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I want to get new developing tanks. My 5 reel leaks, my 3 reel is broken and I've only got a couple of two reels and a couple one reels left. No way in hell I'm paying like 40€ for a new big one though...
Apr 10 2014 7:59AM
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TijmenDal
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Also, a huge list with photography documentaries:
http://petapixel.com/2013/07/01/the-big-fat-list-of-documentaries-about-photography/
Apr 10 2014 1:16PM
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SamColby
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if you don't have access to a dark room where do you get your rolls developed? I'm trying to find a place that will give me jpegs as well as prints (or just jpegs)
Apr 10 2014 4:30PM
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Laurent.
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SamColbyif you don't have access to a dark room where do you get your rolls developed? I'm trying to find a place that will give me jpegs as well as prints (or just jpegs)


There's three options in life:

1.) Let the local camera store deal with it and get shitty low-res .jpg's on a shitty cd for a shitload of money.

Do note that your art (aka bokeh shots of cats and people's backs) will be handled by this bepimpled teenager who will be stuck working as a store clerk for the next 40 years.






2.) Send it to your French Bohemian artist friend who only shoots exotic formats and will scan it for you. He will do an excellent job, but if your pictures are too good he will steal them and claim they are his or it will take a minimum of 8 months and 7 days.


3.) Get a scanner that can scan negatives, if you are serious about film, this is the cheapest route to high quality, either get a multi-purpose (MF & 35) flatbed (Epson V600 or Canon 9000F) or a dedicated 35mm from plustek. Or if you have deeper pockets an older Nikon until Plustek finally sorts out their 120.
Apr 10 2014 4:43PM
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Laurent.
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SamColbyif you don't have access to a dark room where do you get your rolls developed? I'm trying to find a place that will give me jpegs as well as prints (or just jpegs)


There's three options in life:

1.) Let the local camera store deal with it and get shitty low-res .jpg's on a shitty cd for a shitload of money.

Do note that your art (aka bokeh shots of cats and people's backs) will be handled by this bepimpled teenager who will be stuck working as a store clerk for the next 40 years.






2.) Send it to your French Bohemian artist friend who only shoots exotic formats and will scan it for you. He will do an excellent job, but if your pictures are too good he will steal them and claim they are his or it will take a minimum of 8 months and 7 days.


3.) Get a scanner that can scan negatives, if you are serious about film, this is the cheapest route to high quality, either get a multi-purpose (MF & 35) flatbed (Epson V600 or Canon 9000F) or a dedicated 35mm from plustek. Or if you have deeper pockets an older Nikon until Plustek finally sorts out their 120.
Apr 10 2014 4:43PM
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vandersteeze
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omnidata2.) Send it to your French Bohemian artist friend who only shoots exotic formats and will scan it for you. He will do an excellent job, but if your pictures are too good he will steal them and claim they are his or it will take a minimum of 8 months and 7 days.


Or send it to two idiots who live in an apartment downtown who have a bathroom built for a disabled person so its big enough to do cartwheels in and where they dev/rinse your film with toilet water because their water bill has been approaching 300$ for the 3rd straight month
Apr 10 2014 5:20PM
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vandersteeze
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vandersteezeOr send it to two idiots who live in an apartment downtown who have a bathroom built for a disabled person so its big enough to do cartwheels in and where they dev/rinse your film with toilet water because their water bill has been approaching 300$ for the 3rd straight month

*B&U does not use toilet water
Apr 10 2014 5:22PM
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erikK
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vandersteezeOr send it to two idiots who live in an apartment downtown who have a bathroom built for a disabled person so its big enough to do cartwheels in and where they dev/rinse your film with toilet water because their water bill has been approaching 300$ for the 3rd straight month


I live in Canada, how big of a problem would this be?
Apr 10 2014 6:12PM
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Laurent.
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vandersteeze*B&U does not use toilet water



They use Thomas' sterile liquid by-product of the body secreted by the kidneys. This wonder fluid adds another dimension of micro-contrast to the pictures, they become so lifelike the subjects will have to pay taxes.
Apr 10 2014 6:18PM
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Balto
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omnidataThey use Thomas' sterile liquid by-product of the body secreted by the kidneys. This wonder fluid adds another dimension of micro-contrast to the pictures, they become so lifelike the subjects will have to pay taxes.


Its how we make shit art
Apr 10 2014 6:33PM
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vandersteeze
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erikKI live in Canada, how big of a problem would this be?


I dunno
Apr 11 2014 11:13AM
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Sklar
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vandersteezeOr send it to two idiots who live in an apartment downtown who have a bathroom built for a disabled person so its big enough to do cartwheels in and where they dev/rinse your film with toilet water because their water bill has been approaching 300$ for the 3rd straight month


Speaking of which, when am I going to get my shitty first roll back?
I just bottled a homebrew IPA, so I have hip trades prepared
Apr 11 2014 11:36AM
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Balto
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SklarSpeaking of which, when am I going to get my shitty first roll back?
I just bottled a homebrew IPA, so I have hip trades prepared


I started classes this week and eso came out so I have been distracted. I'll do it today.
Apr 11 2014 11:47AM
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Sklar
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BaltoI started classes this week and eso came out so I have been distracted. I'll do it today.


Wooo!
I'll be driving through next weekend on my way to WSI, I can drop beer off then.
Apr 11 2014 11:48AM
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PacificRimJob
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omnidataThere's three options in life:


4th stupid ass option...

Scan by shooting with a DSLR and a macro lens.
Apr 11 2014 1:31PM
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TijmenDal
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B&U, what Jobo do you have? How do you like the results? Was it worth it getting one? How fucking expensive are all the tanks/reels?

I'm looking into maybe getting a Jobo system, but apart from the processor itself (and maybe the lift), the cost of the tanks and reels really adds up. Especially when you want to develop 5+ films at a time.
I think I might just settle for big Paterson tanks instead. Probably isn't worth it throwing 300€+ for a system just because I'm lazy. It's not like I really have the extra money laying around anyway...
Apr 11 2014 2:51PM
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Balto
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cpe2, works fine if you follow the instructions and dont put to much blix in lol. i HATE the shitty fucking reals, they are such a pain in the ass, takes me 3-4x as long to get a roll on vs a paterson. You can get stainless steel reels made for the jobo tanks which would be easier, but are pricey. I basically only use it to do other people's film and kyle uses it for his stuff, I do all my b&w in Patersons.
Apr 11 2014 3:10PM
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vandersteeze
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Lolol we had a great time having the blix explode all over our sink area. Probably got some on toothbrushes and shit.
Apr 11 2014 3:42PM
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zahava
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vandersteezeLolol we had a great time having the blix explode all over our sink area. Probably got some on toothbrushes and shit.


#canceriscool
Apr 11 2014 4:24PM
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