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Neil young changing the future of music

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RockNRollNghtClb
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this is fucking awesome,

Mar 16 2014 12:46AM
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jfxphoto
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video was too long and that wall of text...

gimmie a tldr on this?
Mar 16 2014 1:23AM
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NinetyFour
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This thing lets you play songs in the any format they were recorded in, rather than mp3 formatting. Apparently it sounds a lot better.
Mar 16 2014 1:26AM
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JAHpow
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A majority of people won't be able to tell the difference, if any, between "high res" music from Pono or a CD.

This article explains why it's basically a joke.
http://productionadvice.co.uk/neil-young-pono-pony/
Mar 16 2014 1:50AM
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.qzyxya
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didnt read it but im 99% sure if it's talking about what 'format it was recorded on' it's referring to vinyl. Don't exactly think listening to vinyl on the computer is anything new (ahem flac)

Mar 16 2014 1:54AM
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.qzyxya
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ok so it's 24 bit 192khz which is pretty insane, but 90% of people don't have good enough headphones to tell the difference between that and like 192khz itunes music (nor the hearing). A good dac and some torrents is basically the same thing, aside from portability.
Mar 16 2014 1:59AM
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theabortionator
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Can already get pretty much everything in flac.
Mar 16 2014 2:00AM
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artfullydodged
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Are there not already a bunch of players that support tons of different formats? Unless im missing something this is just a celeb endorsing pre-existing technology a la Dre beats.
Mar 16 2014 2:42AM
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Balto
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this product acts like flac files are not a thing
Mar 16 2014 10:20AM
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NinetyFour
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Yeah I listened to his talk, and I read their kickstarter page, and it does seem to be somewhat of an ignorant product...
Mar 16 2014 11:07AM
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Kazabazua
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You would if you had robot ears.
Mar 16 2014 11:13AM
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corona
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yea most people can't even tell the difference between anything over a 320 kbps mp3 file. And at that 99% of headphones owned aren't even good enough to have anything over that make any noticeable difference.

This really only benefits people with $500 headphones who have never heard of lossless music files.
Mar 16 2014 11:59AM
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Balto
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people will get these with beats pros and act like they know hifi, oh the lolz
Mar 16 2014 12:02PM
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.qzyxya
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Not really true. This is essentially a DAC that allows you to do full 24 bit 192khz audio. Even with a pair of $100 grados I can easily tell the difference between 44.1 and 24/192khz audio. But for the mainstream audience it's trying to cater to, they probably won't notice any difference. I don't know of any other portable media players that do 192khz, though it is slightly overkill (96 sounds basically the same)
Mar 16 2014 3:11PM
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arnie_grape
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it'd be dope to have a player that supports flac but I probably won't buy one. gonna be expensive, plus it's fucking triangle shaped don't need that in my pocket no thanks. I don't really need to listen to high quality music when I'm on the go anyways cause there's usually background noise.
Mar 16 2014 3:49PM
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corona
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I wish I could test you on this, but it's impossible without an online player capable of supporting that.

Made 2 audio files (lossless) from the same source (DXD file that's 24 bit/352.8 khz). One 16 bit 44.1 and the other 24 bit 192. With what I have here ($50 pair of in ear and my stereo system with kinda decent speakers) I sure as hell can't tell the difference between them. I'd have a hard time believing you could with a $100 pair of headphones.

Although maybe I just have terrible hearing.
Mar 16 2014 4:21PM
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rtav
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Lossless is only CD quality. CDs contain about 15% of the data that Vinyl does. This plays at vinyl quality. Therefore it is way better.
Mar 16 2014 4:26PM
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corona
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Lossless isn't all the same quality. CD's are on the lower end of lossless quality.

Also size at that quality is kind of an issue. For example a 3 minute flac file at 24 bit 192 khz is 120 MB. So an hour of music is going to be 2.4 GB
Mar 16 2014 4:47PM
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lIllI
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Is there a good music program for OSX that plays .flac files? iTunes is doesn't support .flac and the interface has turned into a shitty iOS design, and Spotify only plays shitty .mp3s (as much as I love Spotify).
Mar 16 2014 5:00PM
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lIllI
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But then I have to individually open every file to play it, like a video.

Either that or I'm an incompetent buffoon.
Mar 16 2014 5:05PM
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.qzyxya
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Yeah its really hard to tell the difference. With my sr225is ($200) i can tell the difference subtly when I switch from WASAPI on foobar with 24 bit/96khz to the normal 44.1 16 bit. With the $100 sr80s they sound identical. Only really noticeable on certain songs and just sounds smoother. Pretty sure a $20 sandisk clip+ could play FLAC files so it's pretty much the same, and you can spend the extra money on an amp or better headphones to actually listen to. Imo the difference is only noticable from 128 up till like 320 and then a really subtle difference only in some songs to flac. Then from there its even smaller of a difference from 16 bit flac to 24 bit 96khz/192khz. Could even just be placebo. Not sure why people put so much emphasis on the bitrate and depth instead of actual headphone/amp setups /blockoftext
Mar 16 2014 11:30PM
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GayWolf420
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Neal young? Sorry I only listen 2 riff raft
Mar 16 2014 11:36PM
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