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Teen suicides?

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YourMomsCouch
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So I just found out that in my hometown there were two violent teen suicides within just two days of each other. A girl who was the ex chief of police's daughter shot herself in the head while her family was home, and another unidentified kid jumped in front of an oncoming train. Im not too sure if these are both suicides, seeing as the town has a huge gang problem, but either way they're both pretty messed up ways to go. Share your thoughts ns
Mar 15 2014 9:02AM
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Rheptar
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Suicide is selfish
Mar 15 2014 10:01AM
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kamron_708
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Argument argument blah blah. Its stupid, but people have their reasons even if the reasons are stupid.
Mar 15 2014 10:10AM
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freestyler540
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I went through suicidal thoughts a few times in my life. Most were based on failures at school and the stress of deadlines. There is no feeling of worthiness as I picked up C's and F's; as A's were rare. This is stage 1.
When I graduated college, I had a junior position at my first job and the boss was an asshole. He fired me, my parents had fun rubbing it in and I broke up with my first girlfriend. That cost me a year of depression; 16hrs of sleep a day, 75$ a week for food and getting around was painful. At that time, I wanted to die and nobody was there to listen. I was scared of the help because I wanted no pity or condescension.

This is where most stories will end. If I was a teen, I would not be able to bounce back. In fact, most don't. The growth in the brain shifts hormone levels and an underdeveloped frontal cortex inhibits certain rational adult thoughts.

Just listen if someone talks depression. That is the first step of helping someone come back from depression.
Mar 15 2014 11:31AM
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.Rybak.
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Suicide is not the answer. Drugs and Hugs


Mar 15 2014 11:39AM
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MilaKunis
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I have suicidal thoughts all the time and have no clue why. I have a boss life and everything is going well I just kinda like thinking about it.
Mar 15 2014 11:44AM
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Gherbs
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Mar 15 2014 12:10PM
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Willgum
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There's going to be alot of people who dont understand depression in this thread with ignorant ideas to share. I've never been depressed but I can at least empathize that its not just feeling sad for a couple days, it takes over your life. Telling someone who's depressed to just cheer up, go on a vacation, skydive, learn a new hobby etc... wont always work and whenever I hear someone committed suicide I feel sadness, not disdain because of a "selfish" act. People end their lives because they're living in a personal hell, not because they're selfish or need attention.



Mar 15 2014 1:09PM
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Willgum
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Oh btw im not condoning suicide just want people to be more open. Also here's some copypasta from reddit of a guy with a very convincing argument to depressed teens
Not my writing

When I was 16 I actually sat down and made two lists. One was reasons to die, one was reasons to live. Though the reasons to die (or I should say, what I thought at that time were reasons to die) was by far the longer list, I chose not to do it.
I will be fifty in two months. While I've had ups and downs in adulthood I have had experiences and I have learned things that I would have missed if I went by the longer list when I was 16.
I joined the Navy. I've raised two kids to adulthood. I've rafted whitewater. I've rock climbed. I've loved and lost and loved and lost and loved again, and am now married to a women who I can truly say is my soulmate.
I was in my late thirties before I started learning to play guitar.
I turned 49 before I decided that what I really want to do when I grow up is be a writer.
Heck, I play video games that my 16 year old self would have thought were science fiction and I don't even have a current gen console.
I saw my first cassette tape Walkman when I was nineteen and thought it was amazing that I could listen to an actual cassette tape on the go for the four hours that the AAA batteries lasted. Now I have more than a thousand songs on a $35 mp3 player that is functionally beyond the iPods of just five years ago.
I can log onto a worldwide communication vehicle like Reddit and get to know people from every point in the known sentient universe.
What will I be amazed at tomorrow? What will I be amazed at 10, 20, hopefully thirty years from now?
I want to see what comes next. I want you to see it with us.
There will be ups and downs, but trust me... you don't want to miss it.
Mar 15 2014 1:13PM
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.AR6rider.
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You should have just stopped right there. You are just as ignorant as anyone else who is about to post in this thread.
Mar 15 2014 1:23PM
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chicken
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meh. I just don't really give a shit that privileged people from america are killing themselves. maybe if they ate healthier food and exercised often they wouldn't feel so shitty. seriously have you ever met a "depressed" person who ate healthy and got lots of exercise?

if you want to kill yourself that is your own fucking problem. like a family member or something could try and help them but society as a whole shouldn't give a fuck. There are way to many people and animals in the world who actually have super shitty lives and it's because of our selfish western culture. So basically I care more about helping them than some dumb kid who get depressed for no reason.
Mar 15 2014 1:40PM
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GayWolf420
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It's an interesting thing, to be honest. Part of me says kids don't want to get help because of fear of getting labeled as suicidal, or the fact that kids brains are really volatile at this stage of life
Mar 15 2014 1:41PM
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thadiuscastle
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CALL ME BLIND BUT I DIDN't SEE IT COMING




Mar 15 2014 1:44PM
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feihlination
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why? because you hurt your friends and your family with it? how about them doin something that you feel better?
Mar 15 2014 1:54PM
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mellifluous
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It makes me really uncomfortable to read some of the responses in this thread, as somebody who has had multiple attempts.
I guess people being open-minded and at the very least marginally sympathetic or compassionate towards others who are experiencing difficulty is too much to ask for. Yikes.
Mar 15 2014 2:04PM
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GayWolf420
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chickens just trolling. Don't mind him.
Mar 15 2014 2:08PM
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chicken
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your profile picture is a head stuffed and mounted to a wall. so don't lecture me about being compassionate towards others.
Mar 15 2014 2:11PM
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mellifluous
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lol
Mar 15 2014 2:14PM
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.Hugo.
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I'm sure most friends and family would be more than willing to help someone who is depressed. But the person who is depressed has to let others know how they feel and ask for help. People cannot read minds.
Mar 15 2014 2:17PM
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chicken
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not exactly sure what you are laughing about?
Mar 15 2014 2:21PM
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thadiuscastle
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this kid keeps pming me saying " can i suck ur dick for a nickel?"
Mar 15 2014 2:24PM
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chicken
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you really seem to enjoy the thought of me sucking your dick...
Mar 15 2014 2:29PM
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thadiuscastle
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yeah, i am gay. i like dudes sucking my dick. got a problem with it?
Mar 15 2014 2:31PM
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chicken
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no. but I got a problem with you me asking to chill with me.
Mar 15 2014 2:34PM
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thadiuscastle
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then dont ask me what my cell number is and if i grindr......
Mar 15 2014 2:43PM
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Charlie_Kelly
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My senior year a kid the grade below me killed himself. I mnew one of the main kids responsible "bullying" him and the things said to him after this happened were so much worse than anything he said to the kid that killed himself. Kids are such hypocrits...
Mar 15 2014 2:53PM
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Charlie_Kelly
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Dont let MNS hear that, he'd love to use his exstensive research about the topic to school you...

Inb4 MNS now
Mar 15 2014 2:55PM
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chicken
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?
Mar 15 2014 3:15PM
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jcc03skis
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If someone doesn't want to live anymore, who am I or you to tell them different.
Mar 15 2014 3:36PM
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90053
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i will never understand teen suicide, like how does killing yourself solve any of your problems?
Mar 15 2014 3:59PM
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deleted5
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I always think of killing myself over little things. inb4 what are you waiting for?
Mar 15 2014 4:01PM
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YourMomsCouch
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Fuck you chicken
Mar 15 2014 4:12PM
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chicken
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if some random ass teen jumping in front of a train by their own will affects you more than the slaughter of billions of other sentient animals each year then you are a fucking moron.
Mar 15 2014 4:17PM
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El_Barto.
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I dont get how you can fail to kill yourself. Gun to the head, jump off a building, m80 up the butt. You really have to suck to fuck that up. Glad you suck though because killig yourself is weak
Mar 15 2014 4:32PM
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feihlination
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besides, reminds me of that german comedian who had a skit on that. i dont remember the exact numbers though.

he was like: "500,000 people kill themselves each year while 200,000 get killed in war. so a lonely evening at home with a bottle of wine is more dangerous than a casual walk through bagdad."

i would post it but you guys obviously wouldnt have anything from it. was pretty hilarious.
Mar 15 2014 5:19PM
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Wallisch_pl
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You sound so fucking ignorant. Yeah, man, you're right, just because we live in a first world country it means no one can have a shitty life. People should just exercise and eat cheese that tastes like nothing
Mar 15 2014 5:38PM
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90053
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yeh lots of people live shitty lives, but saying they're aren't people who live worse lives and just get on with it is stupid
Mar 15 2014 5:49PM
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90053
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Mar 15 2014 5:51PM
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SkiBum.
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How is eating leaves and grass going?
Mar 15 2014 6:11PM
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chicken
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I said healthy food. not cheese.
Mar 15 2014 6:25PM
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chicken
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very good.
Mar 15 2014 6:27PM
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Dr_Gonzo
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from 0.53
Mar 15 2014 7:45PM
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SFB
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Mar 15 2014 9:19PM
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daannnnieel
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A couple years ago there was like three suicides all in the same grad class at my school, in my grad class there was one. I don't really know what to think about it.
Mar 15 2014 9:52PM
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Bogs
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Uhh...it's kind of hard to HAVE any problems if you're dead.

Could you seriously not figure that out?
Mar 15 2014 10:25PM
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Jeebus.
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Suicide is for selfish act for cowards, not sure why anyone in the thread is honestly defending it..
Mar 15 2014 10:49PM
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SmotSmoke
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Obviously there is something wrong with someones judgement when they think their life is so bad they have to kill themselves. Depression is a serious problem and sometimes people can't deal with it themselves. If depression/mental illnesses goes unchecked it can lead to suicides, or irrational behaviors. You don't know what kind of emotions a person who commits suicide is going through.

When you know someone that has completed manny exceptional things in their lives and you have seen them live happily and complete anything they put their head to commit suicide it doesn't seem to make sense especially when you have seen the person enjoy life at such a high level.

Suicide isn't right and the people who are in such deep depression need help. Suicide is not a cowardly act. Its a permanent end to a life and I am sure that the people who go through with the act are suffering greatly psychologically.

Take greater care in assessing your judgements.
Mar 16 2014 12:58AM
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theabortionator
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Shut the fuck up
Mar 16 2014 1:15AM
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theabortionator
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Also the help isn't always helpful. Somebody could be down with getting help, be completely honest in meetings with counselors in school, and then have some cunt say that they're crazy "A danger to themselves and others" and try to have them locked up in a psychiatric ward twice.

Things like that can turn people permanently off to the idea of help.
Mar 16 2014 1:23AM
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theabortionator
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Trip post. There's a time to troll and a time not to. Not that the OMG OMG IM VEGAN AND LOVE ANIMALS routine isn't a little played anyway, but could you at least keep it to random bullshit threads?


Mar 16 2014 1:29AM
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theabortionator
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I'm talking about his "trolling". I feel there's a time and a place in terms of threads for it and that it's unnecessary in this thread. Especially if it's already played even in the bullshit threads.

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