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Skis are weird

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Park.
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Not sure if this is truly an SG topic or not, but I own a pair of Ace of Spades and a pair of APO Kai Pro's. I have been using the Kai pro's for this season, but yesterday I pulled out my Nordica's.
When I hit a rail, I noticed that the Nordica's gripped the rail much better and I was more stable on the features. It felt like it was more difficult to slip off a feature which was something that interested me and felt very weird even though the sidecut of these skis aren't too different (86 underfoot/87 underfoot). I am not sure what to think of this or even why and how it happens. What I am wondering is if anybody knows what makes this happen. I can understand stability on jumps, but I never thought I would get that feeling on rails.
Mar 14 2014 2:36PM
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.Rybak.
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How sharp is the edge.
Mar 14 2014 2:39PM
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Park.
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I am not wondering this from lack of experience. Both skis are tuned properly and have been through a lot.

Also forgot to mention that I am advanced in park expert everywhere else so people dont ask those kind of questions.
Mar 14 2014 2:43PM
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Trace.
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How waxed is the base?
Mar 14 2014 2:48PM
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JAHpow
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Camber difference?
Mar 14 2014 3:25PM
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Park.
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All of my skis are properly tuned including base waxing before every trip to the mountain. The camber is almost identical, but there is a difference in flex where the Nordica's are stiffer, but not a big enough difference for it to feel like this.
Mar 14 2014 3:35PM
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.Hugo.
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Are you using the same goggles each time?
Mar 14 2014 3:48PM
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*steeze_is_good
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I am also park expert everywhere, but do not have an answer to your question. I do wonder what would happen if you were to wear one of each ski though
Mar 14 2014 4:04PM
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90053
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is the amount of goat semen you are applying to the rail beforehand the same each time?
Mar 14 2014 4:33PM
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S.J.W
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the APO's are rocker flat rocker and the nordica's are full camber that would explain it
Mar 14 2014 5:53PM
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Toaster-Tony
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It took me a while to figure out how to slide rails with my rockered halos after skiing full camber my whole life. Skis just ride and slide differently.
Mar 14 2014 5:55PM
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gotti
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well theres your problem right there
Mar 14 2014 7:06PM
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goat00
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/thread
Mar 14 2014 8:41PM
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percs
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I was thinking about getting a pair of el torros to ride park but now I'm worried that rails will get harder because lack of camber
Mar 14 2014 9:56PM
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FreedGucci
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How thick are your socks?
Mar 14 2014 10:01PM
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JahLiam
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Are you wearing full tilts??
Mar 14 2014 10:20PM
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TOAST.
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Wow. Just wow
Mar 14 2014 10:29PM
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m4ttm4n1
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He's the best skier on the mountain
Mar 14 2014 10:59PM
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GANKI
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I never would have thought that two different skis were different. that's fucking weird.
Mar 14 2014 11:35PM
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BBurt
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This question is invalid, it is not the goggles but how the goggles are worn that affects the skiing
Mar 14 2014 11:41PM
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TACO-DOG.exe
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you should put a different ski on each foot to get a true comparison.
Mar 14 2014 11:45PM
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NetikClothing
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It sounds like you need to increase your potassium intake before skiing on the APOs. Try eating a banana or an avocado before you advance to the park
Mar 15 2014 12:40AM
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Gr0mo
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Some one gets unexplicitly better and no one mentions Full Tilts?? For shame NS! For shame!
Mar 15 2014 12:58AM
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ebonyzebra
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detuned edges?
Mar 15 2014 2:21AM
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Magnet
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Apo is a snowboard brand so theres your problem...
Mar 15 2014 2:56AM
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.Hugo.
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What the fuck do you think you're doing motherfucker
Mar 15 2014 8:36AM
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.Hugo.
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You didn't even read the thread did you? Fucking jersey guido douche
Mar 15 2014 8:38AM
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Park.
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My APO's have the same amount of camber as my Nordica's and I have used Volkl's and Armada's, and they have a different feeling from both skis, but my Nordica's are still like magnets to the rail
Mar 15 2014 2:07PM
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BBurt
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Posting on NS idk about you
Mar 15 2014 2:21PM
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.Hugo.
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I'm trying to help the kid and you're spewing nonsense
Mar 15 2014 2:45PM
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Puzzled
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/thread
Mar 15 2014 5:58PM
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LOLZfajitas
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Mar 15 2014 11:37PM
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TheDetectives
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this is what i was thinking
Mar 16 2014 1:42AM
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Eljefe5
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Have you ever ridden pow skis through the park? I actually like hitting rails better on my Obsetheds (practically no camber) compared to my surface no times (plenty of camber). That also could have something to do with the increased surface area of pow skis on rails....
Mar 16 2014 2:25AM
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J_Berg
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Pee in her butt, make sure your fulltilts are laced up, and have 2 servings of goat semen in your cereal
Mar 16 2014 12:03PM
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percs
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But do you do spins of rails and swaps where using your edge is required?
Mar 16 2014 8:27PM
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caderobinson
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Did you try turning off the apos and back on again? Or change the apos batterys?
Mar 16 2014 8:41PM
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Peter.
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you were probably wearing mittens with one pair of skis and gloves with the other pair. mittens vs. gloves messes with your aerodynamics
Mar 16 2014 11:35PM
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charmander
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i no longer feel the need to argue with you in gear threads

some people just cant be helped
Mar 17 2014 12:12AM
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SFB
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do you have full tilts? if yes , then your problem is that you dont have the tim waloosh ones.
Mar 17 2014 12:15AM
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Park.
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mind explaining?
Mar 17 2014 12:15AM
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