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johnnypsunami
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PLease, watch the bonus feature in High Five, a phone msg from Steve Winter to Josh Berman:

Go to Support Page. Watch the Freeze Ad (or fastforward it). You will return to support page, click over a couple times till you pass the volkl logo and nothing should appear. Click enter, and never buy anything from MSP again.











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Dec 12 2004 3:48PM
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kendrick
Posts: 787 - Karma: 25
you know what sucks? The fact that there are good people skiing in MSP's movies who will also be somewhat punished by the punishment of MSP. My bro owns Yearbook and I was just watching it. Seriously, Abma is the fuckin' man! I was stoked on his seg and the segments of many others in the movie, including Ingrid, shane, tanner, and others. So I guess I'm all about watching it, but not paying for it. I hope those people put the heat on Winter for being a hack-show toolshed poser fuck
Major props to the skiers in his movies though.
Dec 24 2004 7:26PM
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Phrosty
Posts: 9956 - Karma: 18
bump.
Dec 25 2004 12:39AM
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Doghouse
Posts: 1473 - Karma: 21
I dont really think that a handfull, maybe 50 people here on NS is going to severely affect MSP's sales. Also, if MSP were to have umpteen amounts of urban, almost all park, and hardly any big mountain, then I think you'd be finding a lot different response in this thread. MSP makes movies for SKIERS, having done premieres, the people coming to the premieres are not just jiblings, but perople pushing 40 and 50. So no, i doubt that this thread is gonna affect MSP in the least. But ill call Wais and ask him if you want to know anything from the MSP side.





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Dec 25 2004 1:31AM
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trevorwoulddoit
Posts: 6153 - Karma: 199
I don't think you don't quite understand.



You're still herding swine as a profession -Anewmorning

Dont start with me...
Ill get drunk tonite and make posts that will make your eyes bleed -Lord_Piot

But, you can always fall back on your degree in... Communications! Oh, dear Lord!
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Dec 25 2004 3:22PM
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Jibtech
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Dude if you are gonna call anyone, call Steve and tell him to stop being a dick.












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Dec 25 2004 4:32PM
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ViperSki
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I am honestly confused by that message. did winters actually believe that Berman would not tell any of the riders what was told to him. that 'the future' will see less money to small companies and that some of the 'better' riders should be in MSP's movies? like why in hell after hearing this information would those certain riders go over to that D bag and his company. how can someone try and come off nice about that kind of issue, it honestly blew me away


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Dec 25 2004 6:55PM
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kendrick
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jiboregon
you're retarded.

the opportunity to influence people on this site through a post is better than nothing. It's utilizing the forum to make a difference. Sure, this thread is not going to put them out of business but it will make a difference, it's keying dumbasses like you into the importance of business ethics, hopefully, you are pretty dumb, though, and you might miss the point forever. It's like casting your vote. It's all you can do, short of trying to influence others (which is what's going on here) get a clue


Dec 25 2004 6:56PM
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Rez4frederick
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god damn those messages are so incredibly cheezy!!
Steve acts like he is Bermans best 'bro'. I truly wonder his possesion to say what he did.
The only company he says he talked to was 'dynastar'. ahahahha.
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Dec 25 2004 10:06PM
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whiteout
Posts: 189 - Karma: 18
You would be surprised at who monitors these forums. and shockingly, a little thread like this can very well make a difference in the inner workings of the industry. Its much smaller than you all seem to think.
Dec 26 2004 10:14AM
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longboardskater
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Mailing Address:
Matchstick Productions
PO BOX 2469
Crested Butte, Co 81224

Phone Number:
+1 970-349-0860

Fax Number:
+1 970-349-6580

Email Adress:
info@mspfilms.com

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Dec 26 2004 11:05AM
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longboardskater
Posts: 636 - Karma: 9
i guess you can try their 'office' phone number. if anyone wants to start some shit or whatever. although I think someone should send a link to this thread to Helly Hansen and K2 and whoever else wastes 1 million dollars on these guys.

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Dec 26 2004 11:06AM
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longboardskater
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another bumpage for the homies

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Dec 27 2004 12:17AM
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trevorwoulddoit
Posts: 6153 - Karma: 199
word



You're still herding swine as a profession -Anewmorning

Dont start with me...
Ill get drunk tonite and make posts that will make your eyes bleed -Lord_Piot

But, you can always fall back on your degree in... Communications! Oh, dear Lord!
I know! Is phony major. Lubchenko learn nothing. Nothing!

Our greatest glory consists not in never falling. But in rising every time we fall.

Dec 27 2004 12:18AM
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Gnl.Weirdness
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THE WORST??? They made something about mcconkey you nerds.

Shane is a god.
Dec 27 2004 12:27AM
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Doghouse
Posts: 1473 - Karma: 21
kendrick,

My post was in response to about 10 different people saying 'AWESOME THIS THREAD IS SO TIGHT WE'RE GONNA PUT MSP OUTTA BUISNESS!!!'

As for buisness ethics, I'm pretty sure I was 'keyed into it' a while before you wasted your time falling short on an attempted insult, good one. Yeah I'm the dumbass though, cause I OBVIOUSLY dont have a clue what's going on. Winter was an ass to berman, who called him on it, and yeah if it gets back to winter it'll be through the sponsors, who probably heard about it long before this thread was made. But maybe you're trying to make a difference, good for you, cast your vote, let's see how it plays out. Too bad for you though, cause this 'dumbass' just cancelled out your vote.





'Has you ever had an abortion? Surely you should try something before you say it is bad. Because I was very anti-Burger King, but then I went there and I had the flame grilled, ain't it, and you know it was like amazing.'-Ali G





'the devil only exists beacuse of your belief in him, same goes for that other guy'

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Dec 27 2004 2:23AM
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kendrick
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^word. Well, I don't expect everyone to vote intelligently anyway. After all, this great nation of ours just re-elected Bush.
goddammit
Dec 27 2004 3:51PM
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unrigged
Posts: 904 - Karma: 15
YAH CANADA!!! jiboregan your a fool.
sickz one three represent.



Dec 28 2004 9:42PM
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Ace3+4
Posts: 1493 - Karma: 50
OK here's a few thing's. First I don't think level 1 makes the best movies. I have high five, (althought i haven't watch the msg thingy yet)i like but ya know what, i totally hate the soundtrack. I think it sucks ass, I hate that kind of music. But , im not saying its bad cause it helped evole the sport. But i think high five so try to have half n half like other movies. Second. I also have yearbook n i really like it.(althought shanes way too long part) I also like watching seth even though he hardley does any freaking rails. His hges airs n flips are freaking amazing. N E ways all this to say u guys shouldn't say we shouldn't buy msp cause they suck but because there fuckin donkeys!N if they burn like they should which they wont, well i would like to see seth in other films suck as level 1 or n e freakin thing else




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Dec 28 2004 9:56PM
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Jibtech
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Don't worry, Seth is filming with PBP this year!














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Dec 28 2004 10:37PM
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longboardskater
Posts: 636 - Karma: 9
msp is going to get run outta town.

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Dec 28 2004 10:55PM
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Dfresh
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wow if seth is filming with pbp.. that is a huge blow to msp... props to seth if he decided to leave them.

'Keep on rocking in the free world'
Dec 29 2004 12:33AM
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J.D.
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He's probably with both, isn't he? I have no knowledge of this, this is just my assumption.

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Dec 29 2004 12:37AM
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johnnypsunami
Posts: 5024 - Karma: 221
whoa! I would be so happy if that was true (seth skiing for PBP). maybe seth got sick of all steve's bullshit too.









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Dec 29 2004 10:07AM
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ECfreeski3
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that would be so fucking sick if seth filmed with pbp
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Dec 29 2004 10:33AM
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Matty.
Posts: 9458 - Karma: 105
This is prime. MSP needs Seth to produce the movies they want! Now more people will be buying PBP.

-Matty
Kill his family and then at his funeral show him the videotape of you killing htem and then when he starts crying throw flour at him and shove poo in his nostrils. -Mikee talking about getting revenge on hackers
Dec 29 2004 12:06PM
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TheWorst
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Fuck MSP i hope they go out of business maybe it will then let level 1 become even better if that is even possible...
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Dec 29 2004 8:12PM
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trevorwoulddoit
Posts: 6153 - Karma: 199
fukin bumperoo



You're still herding swine as a profession -Anewmorning

Dont start with me...
Ill get drunk tonite and make posts that will make your eyes bleed -Lord_Piot

But, you can always fall back on your degree in... Communications! Oh, dear Lord!
I know! Is phony major. Lubchenko learn nothing. Nothing!

Our greatest glory consists not in never falling. But in rising every time we fall.

Dec 29 2004 9:39PM
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ATLANTASKI
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fuckin fuck msp, lets have johnny mosely sodomize winters and wais with a rossi saphire

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Dec 29 2004 10:33PM
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chowbox
Posts: 317 - Karma: 10
Flaunt it
Dec 30 2004 6:18AM
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cobalt
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What would really hurt MSP is if the riders started boycotting their movies. If CR is refusing to film with them and Seth is shooting with PBP this year then they are on the right track.

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Dec 30 2004 7:32AM
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longboardskater
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i listened to the messages again....Holy shit! they are so weak. steve says 'lets work together' and 'you know money is tight these days' fuck money is always tight shut the hell up.

he goes on to talk about how all the big companies want to see their riders in his films and that they are going to stop funding all of the smaller ones. BULLSHIT! go kill yourself steve!

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Dec 30 2004 10:13AM
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johnnypsunami
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yeeeee dawg, LATES.

ahahahaha what a faggot.









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Dec 30 2004 10:37AM
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SkiSundownJibber
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I think Berman can handle himself... he's probably the most educated person in the filming portion of the ski industry right now.



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Dec 30 2004 11:34AM
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kendrick
Posts: 787 - Karma: 25
^indeed. not to mention, the man can ski! You could say he's had 'formal training'
Dec 30 2004 1:21PM
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longboardskater
Posts: 636 - Karma: 9
bumpage for all the killaz and hundred dolla billaz

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Dec 31 2004 12:41PM
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Irotate360
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fuckin christ alll mighty, its goin to take me years to read all this. but it outta be interesting. msp vs. pbp.





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Jan 1 2005 4:17PM
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pc_nick13
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i liked High five
Jan 1 2005 6:26PM
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albatross.
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anyone wanna compile all the useful information from this thread so someone just checking out newschoolers can find out whats going on without sifting through 8 pages of tripe?

I found this little gem along the way though

'by saying don't watch msp your saying something like'letgs not buy salomon ever again...and taking away another creative mind from the industry'
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Jan 1 2005 7:54PM
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unrigged
Posts: 904 - Karma: 15
already did, 2 pages ago
sickz one three represent.



Jan 1 2005 9:54PM
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straitliner
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Holy shit some of you are dumb. Of course you want to think that you are fuckin rad because you ARE a newschooler and that guys like Seth aren't. Well I'll ask this, what have you park guys done that a snowboarder hasn't done first?? Is that progression? If big mountain isn't progressing the newschool, then why are a lot of park guys like Tanner Hall, Pep Fujas, CR etc. trying to take their shit to the big mountain?? Big mountain is part of the newschool, you can't make an arguement against that. Skiing huge lines switch? landing huge backflips off an 80ft cliff? landing switch cliff drops? I'm sorry, I can only watch a couple railslides and then I am bored, how do you make a whole fucking movie out of that?? I bought MSPs Ski Movie III and it got me totally stoked on Seth, I don't think Focused was as good, and I haven't seen Yearbook... I didn't read all of the pages of posts but it seemed from what I did read that there was this big push to buy the movie so you can see it for yourself...fuck that...I think it's just some ploy to get you to buy the movie. Maybe Winter did say some shit cause he looks like he could be an asshole, but hey, he's making money....the American Dream right?
Jan 6 2005 12:16PM
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kendrick
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^it's not the american dream when you can't get no respect because u fucked up
Jan 6 2005 1:08PM
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pikupfulofsnow
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the american dream is happiness and if you say money...you are going to be a very unhappy person. progression is when someone does something new. snowboarders aren't doing new things that act as a check mark for skiers: the sports are different, there medium is just the same. if steve winter is an asshole let him be an asshole. do you think he likes 5500+ people on this sight alone calling him an asshole?, bet not and that should be everyone's satisfaction.
Jan 6 2005 1:13PM
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kendrick
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karma's a bitch
for some
Jan 6 2005 1:16PM
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straitliner
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ya, so who is progressing really?? Where is the sport heading??? The biggest thing I see right now in the park is like spins onto and off of rails... Like I said, a lot of park guys are taking it to the big mountain, and you've been on mars if you don't know of Seth's contributions to the progression of the newschool. Like I said, I used to like MSP, but I think they've gone downhill, that said, I do like a over generous helping of big mountain in the movies I buy! TGR, Pimpin Frogz, and 'Stimulus' (can't remember the filmmaker of that one) are all good companies/movies too!! (for those that like the big mountain stuff)
Jan 6 2005 3:08PM
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trevorwoulddoit
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Team13/Rage films made Stimulus.



You're still herding swine as a profession -Anewmorning

Dont start with me...
Ill get drunk tonite and make posts that will make your eyes bleed -Lord_Piot

But, you can always fall back on your degree in... Communications! Oh, dear Lord!
I know! Is phony major. Lubchenko learn nothing. Nothing!

Our greatest glory consists not in never falling. But in rising every time we fall.

Jan 6 2005 3:29PM
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TWEAKERSHRDMSTR
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Don't buy MSP. Buy High Five.
Jan 7 2005 10:48PM
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yoda.
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bump



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Feb 19 2005 12:31AM
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freeskier1316
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1. The next person who knows what the people said tell us the quote
2. stop being so god damn opinionated its so weak if any thing supports or has to do with skiing i'm for it even if it is salomon or msp. Look at the footage its good and level 1 is good.
Its an opinion not a fact.

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Feb 19 2005 2:43AM
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flatspinner
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Buy what you want to buy, don't let other people influence your decision. I'm sorry to break it to you guys, but the Ski Movie ''industry'' is a business and most successful business practice horrible business ethics. Wal-Mart pays their employees bare minimum and with no benefits. As for Steve Winter, well, that's a pretty messed up thing to do and he shouldn't have done that. So what, Seth isn't filming for MSP this year. Who cares? If I get to see the product of Seth filming, I'm happy.

I love Level 1, Josh is a super nice guy. He sold me my Seth Pistols, I mean, shoot, he gave me a killer guy too! High Five was sick, and was definitely the most enjoyable film I saw this year. I hope he continues to have success. As for MSP, they will probably continue to have success. They appeal to a much broader audience than L1P.

And to that guy who said to link this thread and send it to Helly Hansen, or K2....I SERIOUSLY DOUBT MULTINATIONAL CORPORATIONS ARE GOING TO CARE ABOUT A WHINY KID AND HIS PROBLEM WITH A SKI MOVIE COMPANY.
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Feb 19 2005 3:06AM
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Dfresh
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msp is garbage, sorry to bring this up again. im against them. brb gone to whsitler. peace!

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Feb 19 2005 4:30AM
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