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johnnypsunami
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PLease, watch the bonus feature in High Five, a phone msg from Steve Winter to Josh Berman:

Go to Support Page. Watch the Freeze Ad (or fastforward it). You will return to support page, click over a couple times till you pass the volkl logo and nothing should appear. Click enter, and never buy anything from MSP again.











Drop Cliffs not Bombs
Dec 12 2004 3:48PM
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johnnypsunami
Posts: 5024 - Karma: 221
your wrong. If you knew anything about business, you would know any problem, no matter how small it is, matters.

'wow....ATLANTASKI should be dragged behind a truck at 90mp/h over rusty razorblades, stabbed multiple times with ice picks, raped up the bum-bum by rabid gorillas and then shot....'
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Feb 19 2005 2:43PM
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whiteout
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This thread is ultimately of little consequence, but to the contrary, flatspinner, K2, Helly, and other 'multinational corporations' are well aware of MSP's practices, and thats why in the end MSP won't be around too much longer. Right Stevie?
Feb 19 2005 3:20PM
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flatspinner
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I would bet that MSP will be around for many years to come. I'm sure that the companies are aware of the ''problem'', but I seriously doubt they care much. Besides, the main sponsors of MSP movies aren't even sponsors of Level 1. So oh well, we'll see what happens. Not like anything we do is going to change everything. If we boycott MSP, they will simply market their movies for a demographic. In the end, they win.
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I'm still waiting for the one I'm waiting for
Feb 23 2005 12:12AM
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youRsmellA
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i heard MSP stands for Massive Shit Pile, is this true. can someone on this site tell mee cuz im new here.
Feb 23 2005 1:35AM
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backwardsrider
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u guys r gay big mtn is soooo much better than park or urban any day
Feb 23 2005 10:31AM
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kyeandwskifam
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big mountain is the shit but not in a ga y film like msp.
Feb 23 2005 4:06PM
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BK
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jesus, i missed this one when it went through the first time. all i have to say is that despite the huge # of deuschbags on this website, NS is too big to be ignored and this could be one of the gnarliest threads ever on it.
Feb 23 2005 5:01PM
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matthasaurusrex
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well some were deffinitly pointless because some people dont know what they are talking about and should stay out of it, im not gunna lie i have noclue, but im just looking for jibtechs posts because they are the most source comming from someone who knows way more than most of you who thihnk you know.


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Feb 23 2005 6:09PM
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kendrick
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^probably could have kept that waste of words to yourself
Feb 23 2005 6:11PM
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jsg
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MSP IS GAY BOTTOM LINE!

------Julian I guess u can call me Julian
May 18 2005 2:11PM
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Machete23
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I've liked MSP's movies a lot and I thought they've all been good, but hearing stuff like this makes me less likely to buy more movies from them. I definitly will be getting movies from some of the newer flimmakers out there. PBP and Level 1 have been doing some really great stuff.
I think it is detrimental to MSP to try to hurt other companies. The more these other companies grow, the more the whole industry grows. It's not like people can't buy more than one movie. If other companies make good movies, I'll buy those too.


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May 18 2005 3:17PM
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johnnypsunami
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glad to see this thread is back on top. hopefully it stays here when time comes around when MSP releases ski movie 34 and ppl realize there are way better movies out there.

'wow....ATLANTASKI should be dragged behind a truck at 90mp/h over rusty razorblades, stabbed multiple times with ice picks, raped up the bum-bum by rabid gorillas and then shot....'-big_white_hucker
May 18 2005 3:26PM
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TurkeyHunter
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berman is the man

May 18 2005 4:09PM
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trevorwoulddoit
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I hear the new movie is going to be called "I Hate Tanner and CR"



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May 18 2005 4:45PM
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skodeo7
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People seriously need to get off bermans cock...there are many other companies that are progessing skiing more (ie. iberg, plehouse, theory-3, sas, etc...), People need to stop treating him as some sort of prophet. In my opinion Strike 3 was easily L1P's peak (for now), it was done very well and incorporated a lot of ideas that Berman hadn't really used before. Berman has replicated alot of what was done in Strike 3 a bit too much in his latest works (obviously opinion). He needs to get out of the hip hop dominated slump he has created and aim more at shortening his films because by the time 45 minutes rolls around it feels like its been way too long (opinion). I think this is a huge difference that makes snowboarding movies so much better/more interesting, their ability to have a banging feel good flick that generally is not longer than 30-35 minutes. It leaves you wanting more, not wanting less, as opposed to many ski movies. This obviously doesn't just apply to L1P, more just a statement about ski movies in general.

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May 18 2005 4:56PM
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bighit
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what exactly is MSP doing to hurt other campanies?

May 18 2005 5:26PM
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trevorwoulddoit
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Did it ever occur to you that somewhere in the previous 10 pages somebody might have made a post containing that information and instead of asking, you could have just gone and read it.



Hunter S Thompson RIP 1939-2005

My heroes don't appear on no stamps.

Our greatest glory consists not in never falling. But in rising every time we fall.

May 18 2005 5:29PM
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bighit
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did it ever occur to u i know that but im to fucking lazy...so just PLEASE tell me.

May 18 2005 5:31PM
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bigkicker
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woah i just read that whole thing




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May 18 2005 7:31PM
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freerider54
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I can't believe this got bumped!. Jibtech, Where ya at?

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May 18 2005 8:26PM
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ski8990
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MSP ratted on iberg for using unliscensed footage. they also tried to buy wski106 away from PBP as well as succeeded in keeping helly hansen not sponsor Wski as heavily as they were going to.

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May 18 2005 8:43PM
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EastcoastAR5
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the point of this thread is to not buy any of there stuff haha



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May 18 2005 9:39PM
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Daniel.
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Their Big mtn. riding sucks now cuz they dropped seth.

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May 18 2005 9:44PM
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freeskier1316
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wtf this is a gay ass thread and the maker thats great you don't like msp but its going to this is going to turn into a giant hate thread and thats what newschoolers needs some more hate god damnit this is dumb i hate salomon i don't making a fucking post about it jesus christ does it matter?


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May 18 2005 10:49PM
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Skiertrav
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This horse is dead. Been dead too long to be beaten any more. Let this thread die.

Yes, MSP makes poor decisions about how they treat others in the industry

That is the extent of this thread....LET IT DIE




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May 19 2005 1:56AM
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hanklambo
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LOOOUUDDD NOISES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

4frnt, Poniverus, Hestra, Anon, Swix, Ambush
May 19 2005 10:14AM
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hanklambo
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I DONT KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOOUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!

4frnt, Poniverus, Hestra, Anon, Swix, Ambush
May 19 2005 10:14AM
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skodeo7
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rrabble rabble rabble rabble

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May 19 2005 11:41AM
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mrparsons
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DFresh, you're a fucking idiot.

May 19 2005 1:37PM
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waynewong
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Sorry guys...but the filming in Yearbook and the rotational heli shots of tanner and friends hitting that huge hip was pure art...hands down some of the best editing and filiming of our sport...

are they too high budget for y'all, whats the beef...jealouse???

Their filmakers and editors have put many tahoe freinds in the spotlight...I have nothing bad to say cause all I have seen are good flicks and great coverage of some ripping tahoe locs....

are they not "core" enough for ya??? what the fk does that mean anyway???



May 19 2005 1:38PM
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Jibtech
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No, a certain someone at MSP is just a flaming asshole.











May 19 2005 1:49PM
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waynewong
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^^ possibly, I personally dont know about that...but I know how much gaffney contributes and he is one of the cooler people in the industry...

May 19 2005 1:54PM
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Phrosty
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their editors do not deserve any props. SLOWMOTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!




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May 19 2005 2:00PM
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waynewong
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your kidding right?? that particular sequence was amazing...the set up, the light., the skills of the heli pilot....

if skiing and videos are not made to appeal to the general public our sucess will be limited...and MSPs movies are our generations equivelnt of warren miller....we need those two weekend a year rich yuppy skiers to be into our sport, to be excited enough to buy their kiddies (most of which are on this site acting core) new skis every year. It is their money that keep us alive...juvenile films may be more entertaining and relate better to the kiddies but the money comes from mom and dad...and they need to see huge movies with big mountains and helicopters and avalances and all that other stuff that the typical jib flick lacks....

sorry but msp's movies fill a vital role for our industry...like it or not

May 19 2005 2:18PM
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Phrosty
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i wasn't kidding.




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May 19 2005 2:22PM
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J.D.
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Give Jeffy a helicopter and a few million of MSP's budget and you'll see just how sad their actual moviemaking skills are. They could be doing so, so much more with what they have. Yearbook licked legions of nuts. The best segment aside from Abma's was in the fucking extras.

But that's not what this thread is about. MSP could be making movies a thousand times better than everyone else (they're not) or have every good skier on earth skiing for them (they don't), that wouldn't change the fact that their company is run by a bunch of complete twats. That's what we're talking about here, not whether you like the heli shots.

May 19 2005 2:28PM
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waynewong
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I just read through portions of this thread and rescind my previous comments...if what being posted is true, then it is not right.

but if it is being taken out of context or only half the story is being told then this thread is worthless...

May 19 2005 3:01PM
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jerad
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hahahahahah dfresh, you're fucking ridiculous! I consider myself a park rat but would MUCH rather ski backcountry in Utah then hit a fucking urban rail in New England....you're a fucking idiot. The people hitting the urban shit AND the big mountain skiers BOTH progress this sport. Grow the fuck up and just respect everyone's preference. Christ....

werd.
May 19 2005 3:26PM
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Doghouse
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hey JD do you know the guys from msp?

they're not "twats"






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May 19 2005 7:16PM
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sno-man
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Why do you guys care so much about what someone said one time? If someone taped everything you said and posted it I am sure it would piss someone off. The beef is between them, not all of us. If you like the movie buy it, if not save your money. If you hate the way MSP does business and you want to boycott them then you better look at every business you support: stores, restaurants, gas stations, all the way down to paying rent to your asshole landlord. With that attitude after a while you would start to find things in every company you don't like. Steve is one many that work for that company and he is not a bad guy. Did he say something that you don’t like? Maybe. Stop hopping for everyone and every business to be all you want it to be inside and out. Let it go. Who fucking cares? See you guys at the next premier. “Hit List�. Peace Out

May 19 2005 8:10PM
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triebby
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im sick and tired of everybody hating on msp. if you dont like them then dont buy there stuff and go on with your life. no to throw a hissy fit, and i sure as hell know im not gonna be influenced by anything you gotta saw on the subject of not buying there films.

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May 19 2005 8:19PM
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JsNeagle
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This is all pretty ridiculous. I like to watch skiing. MSP is a company that provides me with high quality skiing to watch... I'm going to continue to watch their films.. and anyone that doesnt think straight airing enormous cliffs is worthy of such films, should burn. hah

May 19 2005 9:31PM
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epimitheus
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uncreative shit.

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May 19 2005 9:59PM
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tellafriendbiach
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sno-man is a fucking fag. he's probably just steve winter trying to support himself because no one else will. he makes himself so obvious. always putting periods in the right place and using correct sentences. and i will see you at the next premier you fucking fag...i'll be the guy kicking your ass! now go make a good movie biach.

tellafriendbiach! and die

May 19 2005 10:12PM
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BrianM.
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^I agree.

and Skodeo7, I agree with what your saying. But at the same time I wouldnt want that shit to just change next year. I dont want skiing to be just like snowboarding and the only way to do that is find our way on our own. So if it takes a few years of shitty movies for Josh Berman to find his way that so be it. Plus snowboarding was just like this three-four years ago...it was a bunch of shitty long ass movies with mediocer(sp) music.

I really like snowboarding and part of the industry is really cool(neoproto, Kids Know Productions: all the holden guys, etc.) But most of the rest of their industry sucks more than skiing does.
I would really like skiing to feel like the good side of snowboarding does. But skiing needs to find that on its own through experimenting with things they havent done and so forth.

4FRNT.
May 19 2005 11:13PM
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-AR_Seven-
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^You know he can't take you up on that, he has no skiers left. And if that's Winter, he needs to stop making screen names.

May 19 2005 11:13PM
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Sir.Pete
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i like to put extra cheese on kraft dinner

May 19 2005 11:54PM
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NBCskier
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who cares






SGB

May 20 2005 12:34AM
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slf
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the shit they pulled with wski106 and helly hansen was an insult. i can just imagine how much better it woulda been with a heavier sponsorship from a large company like H/H

May 20 2005 12:37AM
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shawnm1260
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levin is right.. there are plenty of other shitty things that winter has done, i know some things that have not been mentioned, and will remain that way.. but still.

levin, berman. you guys both have my full respect.
along with all the other indie crews

May 20 2005 12:49AM
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