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2014 FIFA World Cup

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theBearJew
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We are 100 days out of the 2014 World Cup in Brazil.

I'm pretty excited. Even though USA is in a group of death if we can make it out we have a good shot of going beyond the first round of elimination. We've got a strong team and a good chance of doing better than any other cup.

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Who does everyone think will win it all?
Mar 4 2014 7:08PM
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.MASSHOLE.
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Ski_the_east01This is crazy apparently theyre saying no one is even at the stadium to see how bad the field is because no one can even get there

They might have to delay game in which case they'll have to delay the port/ghana game too

The players can't even get to the stadium to warm up, none of the media is there to broadcast and report on teh game so they're saying its a good chance it doesnt start on time



Good job FIFA...nothin like givin a WC to a shit hole country


I haven't heard any reliable sources (from twitter) say anything about a delay, but I do know media is having trouble getting to the field.

I have a feeling at the latest it will start at 1, 1:30.
Jun 26 2014 9:43AM
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Bogs
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.MASSHOLE.I think we won't see a bar fight, but rather a slow, boring game. In this weather the ball will skip off the slightly wet spots, just straight-up stop in puddles, and be impossible to strike cleanly and dribble. Honestly, it should be a bore to watch, but a fantastic game if both teams just do not care to press for a goal as the weather should help yield a tie.


Bar fight was the wrong phrase, I meant basically what you said, that it won't be like a real soccer game if conditions are as bad on the field as they seem in the city. Any attempt to play will just be the defenders hitting long balls back and forth and hoping it skips off a body or takes a bad bounce and somehow finds the net.

Ski_the_east01This is crazy apparently theyre saying no one is even at the stadium to see how bad the field is because no one can even get there

They might have to delay game in which case they'll have to delay the port/ghana game too

The players can't even get to the stadium to warm up, none of the media is there to broadcast and report on teh game so they're saying its a good chance it doesnt start on time



Good job FIFA...nothin like givin a WC to a shit hole country


Hopefully it starts on time. It would be really interesting to see a third round group stage match in the world cup in an empty stadium.
Jun 26 2014 9:45AM
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.MASSHOLE.
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WattsBar fight was the wrong phrase, I meant basically what you said, that it won't be like a real soccer game if conditions are as bad on the field as they seem in the city. Any attempt to play will just be the defenders hitting long balls back and forth and hoping it skips off a body or takes a bad bounce and somehow finds the net.



Hopefully it starts on time. It would be really interesting to see a third round group stage match in the world cup in an empty stadium.


Yep. It will be an ugly game for sure. Great for us though. Lets hope the goalies can handle any long range efforts cause I imagine that is all we will see.


As long as the media and teams arrive, I dont care about fans.

Actually, I wonder if this rain will do anything to the electrical wiring and such. That would be a bummer if it did.
Jun 26 2014 9:51AM
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theBearJew
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Just got an ESPN update saying Suarez is banned for 9 games and 4 months, so he is out as we suspected.
Jun 26 2014 9:58AM
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.MASSHOLE.
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Suarez is banned for 9 international matches and 4 months of all soccer. Seems righteous to me. He won't play until October for Liverpool if the ban were to start July 1.

On another note

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2110322-lionel-messis-grandfather-slams-argentina-stars-world-cup-form
Jun 26 2014 9:59AM
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Ski_the_east01
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9 matches and 4 month ban from soccer activities...see ya suarez

Jun 26 2014 9:59AM
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ptbsbll12
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Does anyone have a reliable stream they use? I'm stuck at work today and can't watch the game on a tv.
Jun 26 2014 10:02AM
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RubberSoul
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can you explain why you guys think the conditions are a boon to us more so than the germans? thanks
Jun 26 2014 10:04AM
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El_Barto.
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RubberSoulcan you explain why you guys think the conditions are a boon to us more so than the germans? thanks


Its conducive to a draw. Which is good the the US. Its hard to play on a water logged field
Jun 26 2014 10:14AM
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.MASSHOLE.
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RubberSoulcan you explain why you guys think the conditions are a boon to us more so than the germans? thanks


Not sure what you mean by boon but here is why it benefits the US in 2 main points.

1. Long ball play will be difficult. These newer balls are designed to be extremely light and aerodynamic. As such, when struck properly, they have a lot of movement like a baseball pitch may. However, when it is wet, they are more likely to be struck incorrectly and slice and curve in ways that they would normally not. This means that the long passes will be less accurate.

This means that the field will condense, as players are less likely to go on lung-bursting runs in fear that they will slip or lose the ball in a puddle.

2. Dribbling will be difficult. The wetter the field, the more likely players and balls are to slip. The players will be less willing to make cuts and will be more likely to run in a straight line. Additionally, the ball will be slippery and harder to control, meaning individual dribbling skills will have less impact.

You add those two together and you have a type of play that will be void of long ball play and dribbling, meaning that you will be left with two options, short passes and predictable dribbling.

Therefore, hypothetically, the Germans will be unable to use their superior technical ability against the Americans.
Jun 26 2014 10:15AM
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Bogs
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.MASSHOLE.Suarez is banned for 9 international matches and 4 months of all soccer. Seems righteous to me. He won't play until October for Liverpool if the ban were to start July 1.

On another note

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2110322-lionel-messis-grandfather-slams-argentina-stars-world-cup-form


Such a shame about Suarez. Oh well, like most great artists he is unappreciated in his own time.

And that article on Messi's grandfather is hilarious. He's not wrong, until the game yesterday none of the Argentinian forwards were working especially hard without the ball, but I have a feeling that is more at Sabella's instructions than anything.

RubberSoulcan you explain why you guys think the conditions are a boon to us more so than the germans? thanks


A water logged field just makes passing, dribbling, and shooting all more difficult, and since the Germans are technically superior to the u.s., it hurts them more than us. I also think the u.s. are one of the tougher teams in the tournament, and that bad conditions will affect most other teams more than them.
Jun 26 2014 10:22AM
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.MASSHOLE.
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So how does FIFA's banning of Suarez affect EA Sports FIFA game..? This is an important matter.
Jun 26 2014 10:26AM
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pat_in_the_hat
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the rain will affect both teams equally. they will both be wet and the ball will be wet and heavy no matter whos possession it is in. I think the team that will look the best is the team the adapts quicker to the rain. In my opinion, its not so much about skill in a situation like this, but smarts, and whoever can figure it out first.
Jun 26 2014 10:26AM
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Bogs
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pat_in_the_hatthe rain will affect both teams equally.


No, it will affect Germany more. They're the team who, in dry conditions, would be the ones who can out pass and out dribble the u.s., but the rain makes it much, much harder for them to use their technical superiority to their advantage. Weather is the great equalizer. It's going to be a scrappy game, and I think the U.S. can scrap better than Germany.
Jun 26 2014 10:32AM
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theBearJew
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WattsWeather is the great equalizer. It's going to be a scrappy game, and I think the U.S. can scrap better than Germany.





We sure do scrap.
Jun 26 2014 10:35AM
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DERS.
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fuck yeah boys lets go yanks!!!

also france looked pretty weak yesterday. for those who said they could take it a page or two ago, still think so?
Jun 26 2014 10:42AM
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saskskier
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This whole page makes it sound like the German's don't know how to adapt to playing in the rain.
Jun 26 2014 10:50AM
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.MASSHOLE.
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DERS.fuck yeah boys lets go yanks!!!

also france looked pretty weak yesterday. for those who said they could take it a page or two ago, still think so?


Yes, they missed two influential players. Valbuena and Cabaye are the two creative forces on that team.

Again, I think most people have been saying there is no clearcut favorite right now due to inconsistent plays, and we finally saw that out of France.


Rumors Uruguay will not play against Columbia as a protest to the ruling. Come on now.
Jun 26 2014 10:50AM
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theBearJew
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saskskierThis whole page makes it sound like the German's don't know how to adapt to playing in the rain.


I think its just saying that the US has more experience with it. Alot of the players play in the MLS and across the US there are very varying weather conditions.
Jun 26 2014 10:51AM
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.MASSHOLE.
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saskskierThis whole page makes it sound like the German's don't know how to adapt to playing in the rain.


I think a more accurate assessment of the system would be that the Germans are now on "level" playing terms with us now because they lost their technical advantage.
Jun 26 2014 10:56AM
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pat_in_the_hat
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WattsNo, it will affect Germany more.


Oh sorry, I forgot that it only rains when Germany has the ball. And the U.S. will be running around with umbrellas

theBearJewI think its just saying that the US has more experience with it. Alot of the players play in the MLS and across the US there are very varying weather conditions.


And it doesnt rain in Germany, nor have the German players even seen rain. Shit, they are going to be so confused....

It will hinder both teams equally. We wont have a decent touch on the ball just as much as the Germans.
Jun 26 2014 10:58AM
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Twig
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.MASSHOLE.Rumors Uruguay will not play against Columbia as a protest to the ruling. Come on now.


No chance but it would be hilarious if this were true.
Jun 26 2014 10:58AM
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Twig
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.MASSHOLE.Rumors Uruguay will not play against Columbia as a protest to the ruling. Come on now.


No chance but it would be hilarious if this were true.
Jun 26 2014 10:59AM
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Twig
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^my bad, NS told me posting had failed the first time!
Jun 26 2014 11:00AM
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.MASSHOLE.
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TwigNo chance but it would be hilarious if this were true.


I mean what would the rational be? I would chuckle if they did. Talk about stupidity.

Looks like the game is going to go off on time. T-minus 55 minutes
Jun 26 2014 11:04AM
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.MASSHOLE.
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I really hope this is not true.


Come on FIFA.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2110126-neymar-under-investigation-for-his-underwear-of-choice
Jun 26 2014 11:05AM
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El_Barto.
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saskskierThis whole page makes it sound like the German's don't know how to adapt to playing in the rain.


We all know what happens when ze germans try to attack during adverse weather conditions.
Jun 26 2014 11:06AM
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Ski_the_east01
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El_Barto.We all know what happens when ze germans try to attack during adverse weather conditions.


The U.S. has never let water stop them from advancing
Jun 26 2014 11:11AM
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DERS.
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nothing more 'merican than beating ze germans to potentially play russia on the 4th o july.
Jun 26 2014 11:17AM
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Bogs
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pat_in_the_hatOh sorry, I forgot that it only rains when Germany has the ball. And the U.S. will be running around with umbrellas


Lots of rain on the field makes passing and dribbling the ball harder. The Germans are far superior to the u.s. at passing and dribbling the ball. They beat teams because they can pass and dribble better than them.
Not being able to pass the ball as well will make it much more difficult for Germany to beat the U.S. than it would be in dryer conditions. Bad conditions always benefit the worse team more because the game deteriorates and becomes more about luck and hustle than talent. You seem very opposed to this idea, but it's just true, sorry. I don't know what else to tell you.

That said, the field doesn't actually look all that bad, so a faster surface may benefit the Germans.
Jun 26 2014 11:19AM
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Ski_the_east01
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ptbsbll12Does anyone have a reliable stream they use? I'm stuck at work today and can't watch the game on a tv.


http://deadspin.com/your-ultimate-guide-to-streaming-every-world-cup-match-1588679981

Go down to June 26th and click the ESPN3 link

It works 60% of the time, everytime

but seriously...it works everytime

You can also watch both games if you use mozilla for one and google chrome for the other
Jun 26 2014 11:22AM
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.MASSHOLE.
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Jun 26 2014 11:23AM
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ptbsbll12
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Ski_the_east01http://deadspin.com/your-ultimate-guide-to-streaming-every-world-cup-match-1588679981

Go down to June 26th and click the ESPN3 link

It works 60% of the time, everytime

but seriously...it works everytime

You can also watch both games if you use mozilla for one and google chrome for the other


hmmm it asks for my cable provider and then wants login info. Maybe it just doesn't work in my area.
Jun 26 2014 11:30AM
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Ski_the_east01
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ptbsbll12hmmm it asks for my cable provider and then wants login info. Maybe it just doesn't work in my area.


hmmm shit. It's worked everytime for me on a bunch of different comps without ever having to input cable provider info.

Clear cookies and try again?
Jun 26 2014 11:35AM
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ptbsbll12
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Ski_the_east01hmmm shit. It's worked everytime for me on a bunch of different comps without ever having to input cable provider info.

Clear cookies and try again?


It might be because it's a work computer. My company is possibly putting the game on in our conference room so I still might be in luck!
Jun 26 2014 11:41AM
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gRAPEFRUIT
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ptbsbll12It might be because it's a work computer. My company is possibly putting the game on in our conference room so I still might be in luck!


We have several huge TV's in the cafeteria annnnd work is providing lunch and drinks for us. Score.
Jun 26 2014 11:47AM
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Ryanvdonk
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beat those dirty krauts!
Jun 26 2014 11:57AM
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.MASSHOLE.
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Well, the Germans do not look phased so far.
Jun 26 2014 12:02PM
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division.bell
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US's possession has to be less than a minute total so far.
Jun 26 2014 12:10PM
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LoathesRaisins
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Would much rather listen to a non american commentator.
Jun 26 2014 12:12PM
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LoathesRaisins
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God dam this guy is annoying.
Jun 26 2014 12:14PM
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Ski_the_east01
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incredible reactionary save by ghana keeper
Jun 26 2014 12:20PM
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.MASSHOLE.
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ChrisMcCandlessGod dam this guy is annoying.


Twellman?

I don't mind him, he calls a spade a spade. He is 1000x better than Gus Johnson who did the CL games.
Jun 26 2014 12:20PM
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division.bell
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Zusi, so close. Are we finally waking up?
Jun 26 2014 12:22PM
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LoathesRaisins
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.MASSHOLE.Twellman?

I don't mind him, he calls a spade a spade. He is 1000x better than Gus Johnson who did the CL games.


Not as bad as I assumed. Just a few whiny comments about something not going in favor of the U.S. Seems to be calling it even now.
Jun 26 2014 12:24PM
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division.bell
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Ref fail.
Jun 26 2014 12:29PM
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theBearJew
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division.bellRef fail.


He sucks. Missed advantage and a call. Then took out a player.
Jun 26 2014 12:30PM
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.MASSHOLE.
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Way to go Portugal. Now don't score 4 more.
Jun 26 2014 12:31PM
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Ski_the_east01
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.MASSHOLE.Way to go Portugal. Now don't score 4 more.


yup still good news for the U.S.
Jun 26 2014 12:32PM
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bakedpow
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So they just announced Ghana scored but they obviously didn't... Portugal 1-0
Jun 26 2014 12:32PM
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