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CheeFIt's ok, really difficult to blend Sarcoplasmic hypertrophy with Myofibrillar hypertrophy. Transitioning from Layne Norton's PHAT it is kind of nice to lift slightly heavier and still get that pump. I've been at this 5x5 for about 3 monthes, needed a less demanding routine with school and work grind.
californiagrownLol. Homie with how weak and small you are you don't need to be worrying about what kind of hypertrophy you are inducing haha
That's just majoring in the minors. Cool to know about, but a waste to invest appreciable time into at your level.
000000000000Weak and small lol, I'm 6' 215 bud. I started out 140 soaking wet, doing Sarcoplasmic has gotten me this far. If I dropped down to 3 rep pussy shit would you think I was cool? Need to value both. My level haha, thought you were chill
000000000000Weak and small lol, I'm 6' 215 bud. I started out 140 soaking wet, doing Sarcoplasmic has gotten me this far. If I dropped down to 3 rep pussy shit would you think I was cool? Need to value both. My level haha, thought you were chill
000000000000Weak and small lol, I'm 6' 215 bud. I started out 140 soaking wet, doing Sarcoplasmic has gotten me this far. If I dropped down to 3 rep pussy shit would you think I was cool? Need to value both. My level haha, thought you were chill
californiagrownIf I was going for 3 work sets on squats it'd look like 12, 8, 6, 3, 2, 5, 5, 5
THEPROPHETYou do 12 8 6 before 5x5x5? Hate to break it to ya but that is a horrible rep scheme and you are not getting the most out of your training. Literally makes no Sense to do that many reps before attempting strength gains. how much do you rest in between sets?
THEPROPHETI've seen HS kids bench 315 for reps. You are just starting as far as strength goes. squatting 225 is cake bro, I do pause squats at that weight and I'm a beginner.
caligown is def not chill though his ego is huge
californiagrownI'm usually around 2 minutes of rest on wprksets. And I've found that for me, on bench, that scheme gets me prepped in the minimum time as opposed to doing a longer but lower volume warmup. If my worksets were at 225, my 6rep warmup set would be at 185.
My scheme gets me prepped, without fatigueing me or spending more time in the gym than I'd like to.
What would you suggest as a quicker warmup that gets me just as prepped for bench in a similarly short amount of time?
californiagrownI believe he was talking about bench. In any case, you agree with me, and then say I'm not chill, lol. Why so bitter?
THEPROPHETHey im all for not wasting time in the gym.
Its not appropriate for me to say what you should do without knowing more about you. How many sets of 8 can you do at 185? What is your 1rm/3rm?
californiagrownNow youre talking like a trainer! :)
I have a very unstable shoulder and don't do anything under 5 reps on bench because of it. Typically, I leave about 1+ rep left in the tank to ensure that my form stays in a very precise groove where my shoulder is stable-any variation will sublux it. This strategy has allowed me to maintain stability and acceptable benchpress strength, and pec development.
I can do 185x10 EMOM, for 5 sets. Ive done that fairly recently. Other than that, idk as bench is very much not a priority due to my shoulder issue.
As for building squat numbers I agree with your philosophy to an extent. But I think that you should only switch up to variations once the main lift stalls out, or you just plain get bored. If progress is steadily being made, I don't see any reason to change it up. That said, I usually switch between back squat, front squat, and Bulgarian split squat every few months largely out of boredom. For whatever reason the BSS hits my glutes really fucking hard.
THEPROPHETMy biggest concern would be why your shoulder is unstable.
Do you flat bench? Decline Is probably a better option for you if your have an unstable shoulder. if you are not really concerned with numbers and just want to build your chest then you probably should just stay away from barbells entirely. At least until your shoulder is better ;)
can you do any overhead exercises?
californiagrownShoulder capsule is torn, 3 tears in my labrum, degeneration of the glenoid humeral joint. Long story behind it, not worth it to attempt the awful surgery again with a super low chance of fixing it this time.
Oddly enough, heavy barbell overhead pressing has helped my stability tremendously. Decline bench ends up hitting my triceps too much, so I typically just stick with dumbell flat bench with a halfway nuetral grip.
THEPROPHETDecline hits your triceps too much? Widen your grip.
Decline is a better option for targeting your chest if you do it right.
Do you do any cable work? Pulls are always better than pushes, expecially for someone with a muffed up shoulder.
can you do pull-ups?
californiagrownWide grip is generally worse for shoulders and certainly hurts mine.
THEPROPHETThen you are doing something wrong. Probably not setting your scapula correctly, not engaging your lats, Something along those lines. its obvious you are tricep dominant.
it doesn't sound like you intend to switch up your routine
REGRESSIVELEFTIf you want your squat numbers to sky rocket, stop squatting and start doing squat variations. Split squats, single leg squats, box squats, weighted step ups, pause squats, anderson squats.
cobra_commanderWith the exception of a very few gyms, most crossfit programing does not include enough running or low intensity steady state cardio to be decent at running, or otherwise. You might be able to sprint a mile, but you won't have the conditioning to run one aerobically.
250ri know its hard to wrap your brain around, but this video explains high intensity training (like crossfit) at the mitochondrial level. high intensity anaerobic training can give you a superior cardio work out. aerobic ≠ cardio.
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/827553/Paleo-Diet--amp--Strength-Training-Biochemistry---Doug-McGuff-M-D----Full-Length-HD
250ri know its hard to wrap your brain around, but this video explains high intensity training (like crossfit) at the mitochondrial level. high intensity anaerobic training can give you a superior cardio work out. aerobic ≠ cardio.
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/827553/Paleo-Diet--amp--Strength-Training-Biochemistry---Doug-McGuff-M-D----Full-Length-HD
JayRichI should try this. I've kind of plateaued at a max of 465.
cobra_commanderThat is the same psuedoscience bullshit always sold by folks who are too damn lazy to get off their ass and do some steady state cardio, or are looking to sell shit to the lazy.
Folks who subscribe to that theory generally fall apart after about 20-30minutes of moderate exertion (5-10k run pace) or 2-3 hours of low intensity work (ex: ski touring). They also tend to performe suboptimally over day or multi-day long competitions (strong man events, cross fit regionals, crossfit games).
They don't tell you this but most of the Games athletes do some form of stamina/endurance cardio in the 40-80min range once a week.
Just like it turned out they generally follow some sort of linear progressive overload strength programming, when everyone was trying to pretend they got jacked and strong on wods several years ago.
There is a place for HIT and HIIT training. Just don't try and pretend it can replace some sort of steady state endurance training at 60-70% MHR.
REGRESSIVELEFTI love Anderson squats but single leg work would probably help someone at your level quite a bit.
.MASSHOLE.Anyone build their own lifting platform?
BenWhitI'm building one on Saturday, following the attached steps
http://www.garagegymreviews.com/2014/11/03/diy-weightlifting-platform-with-squat-stand-attached/
I'm going to forgo the squat stand, though.
.MASSHOLE.That was my plan too. Let me know how it goes! I may do it this weekend or next.
BenWhitI also have plans for a modular one that I can move between Boston & the Cape on the weekends but I'm not 100% sure that I like it yet.
.MASSHOLE.You doing the full 8'x8'?
I was thinking of a 6'x8', not sure if I need the full size since it will be in my basement. Going to measure it out and see what I like more.
REGRESSIVELEFTThought you guys might like this
DayManHoly shit, 23 pounds in 3 months and he's still shredded
DayManHoly shit, 23 pounds in 3 months and he's still shredded
saskskierSo I haven't been lifting in a few months, but since I moved 30 min from the mountains, I've been out there a ton.
Also, not sure if anyone cares, but WADA has been going hard on testing and retesting athletes and they just released some names today. I'm officially bummed for Rio...
The IWF reports that as a consequence of the IOC’s reanalyses of samples from the 2012 London Olympic Games, the samples of the following Athletes have returned Adverse Analytical Findings:
AUKHADOV, Apti (RUS) – Dehydrochloromethyltestosterone, Drostanolone (S1.1 Anabolic agents)
KOSTOVA, Boyanka (AZE) – Dehydrochloromethyltestosterone, Stanozolol (S1.1 Anabolic agents)
PODOBEDOVA, Svetlana (KAZ) – Stanozolol (S1.1 Anabolic agents)
SAZANAVETS, Dzina (BLR) – Drostanolone, Stanozolol (S1.1 Anabolic agents)
SHKERMANKOVA, Maryna (BLR) – Dehydrochloromethyltestosterone, Stanozolol (S1.1 Anabolic agents)
KALINA, Yuliya (UKR) – Dehydrochloromethyltestosterone (S1.1 Anabolic agents)
ZHARNASEK, Yauheni (BLR) – Dehydrochloromethytestosterone, Stanozolol, Oxandrolone (S1.1 Anabolic agents)
MANEZA, Maiya (KAZ) – Stanozolol (S1.1 Anabolic agents)
ILYIN, Ilya (KAZ) – Dehydrochloromethyltestosterone, Stanozolol (S1.1 Anabolic agents)
CHINSHANLO, Zulfiya (KAZ) – Oxandrolone, Stanozolol (S1.1 Anabolic agents)
californiagrownWell that's bullshit. If you don't catch em then, they shouldn't be punished now. Cheating is part of sports.
saskskierbunch of relatively light squats (up to about 285-ish). I can hardly walk.
saskskierMoral of the story: once you start squatting, don't stop.
californiagrownCheating is part of sports.
REGRESSIVELEFTPlay with fire get burned. No sympathy for cheaters ever.
californiagrownEh, sports are entertainment. Whatever the performers can do to make it more entertaining for me, I'm all for. I don't like the rules.
But yeah, if you know the possible consequences beforehand, you can't act surprised or indignant when you those consequences happen.
DayManAnyone else make their own preworkout? I just bought a bunch of beta alanine, L-citrulline, caffeine, and BCAA's to mix my own. I've been using Pre-Jym for a while but it's just too expensive