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lIllIWay to fight the stereotype.
TheBigAppleThose are all valid reasons, thank you for the reply. I'm not here to argue over opinions I was just looking for answers. My post wasn't insulting, and fortunately for me, there are no lockers at my office for people to stuff my middle aged skinny ass into.
I have dabbled with the gym for a few months here and a few months there. I already have to spend way to much on food to support my metabolism I can't imagine adding 20 or 30 lbs more muscle.
S.J.WThe fuck is with the current trend of people deadlifting with one arm?
Peter.with a full barbell and everything? i haven't seen it yet, but why not just use two hands?
S.J.WThe fuck is with the current trend of people deadlifting with one arm?
Peter.with a full barbell and everything? i haven't seen it yet, but why not just use two hands?
.otto.Any one use whey Isolate protien? if so how many grams do you use
RedPandaOut of curiosity, what are your numbers like at this point?
phillyskierAnyone have a good bench program for increasing 1RM?
JayDopeHeight 5'9, weight 168 BF 6-7%
1RM Bench - 325
1RM Squat - 335
1RM trap bar dead lift - 420
1RM deadlift - 350 just started conventional deadlifting recently and really enjoying it, my bench used to be higher but my AC joints would kill me so I slowed that down quite a bit
JayDope1RM trap bar dead lift - 420
BenWhitNot trying to be a dink or induce some sort of argument, but this movement does not matter. It is oft used for novice lifters, adolescents, and those that are mobility challenged. It is literally just a "bottom-up" squat, more closely replicating a squat than a deadlift.
Pull sumo, eat butt. end of story.
californiagrownYou sound a little perturbed. I think it's past your nap time...
BenWhitI haven't had my afternoon snack, actually.
BenWhitNot trying to be a dink or induce some sort of argument, but this movement does not matter. It is oft used for novice lifters, adolescents, and those that are mobility challenged. It is literally just a "bottom-up" squat, more closely replicating a squat than a deadlift.
Pull sumo, eat butt. end of story.
JayDopeAlways good to change it though
cobra_commanderNothing wrong with trap bar deadlifts.
There re is a lot wrong with benching 325 and only squatting 335, or deadlifting 350.
.otto.Any one use whey Isolate protien? if so how many grams do you use
JayDopeAgreed, I really neglected my legs during my younger days, hitting them twice a week now, for weighing where I'm at, I'll take it as acceptable numbers
S.J.WDepends on how much protein you get from your diet. I only use one scoop of gold standard after my workout and one scoop of casein protein to help hit my need of 200 grams per day.
If you're getting more than enough protein from your diet only have whey after a workout.
If you have any more questions shoot away
BenWhitNot trying to be a dink or induce some sort of argument, but this movement does not matter. It is oft used for novice lifters, adolescents, and those that are mobility challenged. It is literally just a "bottom-up" squat, more closely replicating a squat than a deadlift.
Pull sumo, eat butt. end of story.
_Fluffy_You think it does not matter.[/img]
In your opinion it's for novice lifters.
The hex bar is superior for developing explosiveness/power through the hips
cobra_commanderIf you are not a powerlifter or strongman competitor the deadlift is at best an important accessory movement.
BenWhitIt's not really my opinion. Walk into any strength and conditioning gym and look at the athletes that are spending the most time on the trap bar and tell me what you see. Adolescents developing fundamental movement patters & mobility-challenged athletes that have difficulty holding a neutral spine when the par is placed in front of them. Where do you see trap bar dead-lifting the most? High-school football weight room. Why? You're training athletes are are not fully developed, both in body composition and movement patterns.
Want to build explosive hip strength? Power clean for me one time.
I'm not saying the trap-bar DL should be completely ignored, but your 1RM # doesn't matter. It should be practiced as an assistance. If you're not trap-bar dead-lifting, you're really not missing out.
cobra_commanderIf you are not a powerlifter or strongman competitor the deadlift is at best an important accessory movement. there is no 'need' to program it in any certain way or form. If a trap bar deadlift works better for your athletic goals and needs, do those instead. saying something is a 'beginner' lift just doesn't make sense. You use what is appropriate. the only reason you would worry about 'progressing' to a traditional 'deadlift' is if it is a competitive movement for you. Aka: powerlifters and strongman. I use a wide variety of deadlift variations: sumo, conventional, both from blocks, deficit, RDLs, deficit RDLs, touch and go RDLs, constant tension variations, DBs, if I had a trap bar I would use it.
_Fluffy_I use to Clean 245 @ 164 lbs.
You said to do sumo squats but where I come from a sumo pull is cheating.
BenWhit"Pull sumo, eat butt" is a direct quote from Dom Mazzetti, who creates satire lifting videos.
_Fluffy_you dont think I know who Dom is bro!!!! I love his videos.
BenWhitby that logic, so are the bench press & squat.
BenWhitby that logic, so are the bench press & squat.
cobra_commanderDamn straight.
(one exception would be if they are tested events for your profession like 225lb bench for reps in Football. In that case, high rep bench press at 225lb would be a primary but max weight bench would be an accessory).
_Fluffy_I understand what you mean.
As an example: Bench and Squat for a Thai Boxer would be considered accesory movements. For a bodybuilder/power lifter it's a primary movement.
cobra_commanderYes. Probqbly not even a very important accessory. I doubt many Thai boxers wastemuch time in the squat rack or bench press. At least the good ones. vetter to spend time and energy boxing and running drills, unless tgeir strength is severely lacking.
-benedettohttps://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/780966/Form-check-bench-press
For easeness of viewing..
_Fluffy_My advice is to make sure you squeeze your shoulder blades together before beginning the lift, it shouls help with maintaining symmetry. I'd also say you should throw 35s on and widen your grip just a tad, try and at least be next to the smooth rings. maybe try a 10/8/6 or 5/5/5 plan for a bit. try making your last set the heaviest
how many times can you rep 135?
-benedettoForm Check. I realized in the past that sometimes that my hands don't go up evenly when doing bench press. So a few weeks ago, I practiced with just 25's on each side. Felt like I figured it out, just apply more pressure on the left side and go slower. Then the next week, I went no more than 70% of my 1rm and felt ok. So today I go back to my normal routine and felt straight. However, after viewing my form check, I'm obviously still slacking on my left side. Any tips? Maybe go a few weeks with dumbbells? I feel my bench press numbers are lagging but I'm not afraid to practice for a few sessions before my form is just complete shit.
Perhaps important info:
I've been doing 5/3/1 since March
Squat 1rm 250
Deadlift 190 (happy to get over my body weight a few weeks back)
OHP About 120, never went for 1rm
Bench Press, I've lifted 180 but I would put my current max at about 170.
5'11 176lbs been working out for 2+ years but the first 1-1/2 years was spent at a planet fitness and for a year of that, there was no bench press or squat racks because they axed them...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvBzwbn5M_g Would a side view help? And gotta love the gym at 6:30am.
-benedettoI think I was overdoing it so I cut it down today to bench which is 3 sets (following the 5/3/1 cycle) then I did 5x10 (2 sets decline on 60% and then 3 sets incline also on 60%) then 2 flat bench dumbbell sets where I could do 10 and got the hell out of there. (I also supersetted the last few sets with chin ups then ez bar curls).
I'm afraid to find a new workout plan. I just like the set up of the 5/3/1 so much. Whenever I read about other plans, they don't seem like they are my style. I like what people call bro splits I guess. I don't want to bench and then squat on the same day. Any advice as far as this goes? I've been meaning to ask on here because you guys get straight to the point whereas on reddit, I'll get 35 different responses.
-benedettohttps://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/780966/Form-check-bench-press
For easeness of viewing..
S.J.Wwhat the fuck, your 25 plates look like the same size as the 45 plates at my gym.
californiagrown**Have any preexisting shoulder/upper body issues? This is very important to know before any advice can safely be given.**
-benedettoNope. I think its more of an muscle imbalance. Before working out, I didn't do shit so my right side is dominant. Only thing I can say is my the right side of my collar bone sticks out more than my left but I doubt that matters much.
-benedettoThose were 45's.
And thanks all for the advice. I'll report back in a few weeks
BenWhitSticks out, or sits higher in your AC joint? If so, you may have separated your shoulder (however slightly) at some point.
