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Trying this new pre workout, it was 50% off on bodybuilding.com, I hope to god I don't like it that much because I can only afford it when its on sale.
*N_Wist*Trying this new pre workout, it was 50% off on bodybuilding.com, I hope to god I don't like it that much because I can only afford it when its on sale.
I've heard it's similar to the new MP Hardcore Series Wreckage pre-workout. I haven't tried JYM, but after only a week, I've fallen in love with Wreckage. I've tried probably 10 different pre's, and it's by far my favorite one. Sounds like you'll really enjoy it.
*N_Wist*Trying this new pre workout, it was 50% off on bodybuilding.com, I hope to god I don't like it that much because I can only afford it when its on sale.
i love this stuff! i am actually about to get a scoop as we speak. Jym Stoppani knows what he's doing and his supps are the bees knees. I love pre jym
juicedrummer11i love this stuff! i am actually about to get a scoop as we speak. Jym Stoppani knows what he's doing and his supps are the bees knees. I love pre jym
*N_Wist*Trying this new pre workout, it was 50% off on bodybuilding.com, I hope to god I don't like it that much because I can only afford it when its on sale.
btw when it says 49% off its not actually. Check every product on there site and they are all like 30-50% off but they are never full price it just influences you to buy it then.
RedPandaIs preworkout worth trying? I work out in the morning so I usually have 2 cups of coffee and then go to the gym. Isn't it just mainly caffeine in it?
I was drinking coffee too but between the heart burn and feeling super thirsty I tried c4. Now I am addicted. I work out in the morning too. Besides the caffeine boost the pump is legit too. Not necessary but worth trying. Most shops have 1 serving packets that you can try cheap. I drink mine no more than 10 minutes before I start or you may feel your neck getting hot and may even feel agitated and ready to burst threw a wall.
On another note I bought chucks last week and I am loving them for lifting. Now my running sneakers feel like a cast when they're on. I shouldn't have waited this long.
Last week of the crossfit Open started last night. THANK GOD. Between injuries and spending a 8 days in Utah, I'm not feeling even remotely close to at my full potential. Also dropped over 500 spots in the North East since last year. I finished 1000th last year out of 18000 males in the North East. This year, I'm sitting at like 1700. Next year!
BenWhitLast week of the crossfit Open started last night. THANK GOD. Between injuries
Aren't the injuries the biggest gripe against crossfit for most people? I hate seeing bad form at the gym and when i've heard crossfitting brought up on the JRE, Rogan constantly hates on it. He likes to bring up the sacrafice of form to get more reps etc. Is this what the injuries are from?
louie.miragsAren't the injuries the biggest gripe against crossfit for most people? I hate seeing bad form at the gym and when i've heard crossfitting brought up on the JRE, Rogan constantly hates on it. He likes to bring up the sacrafice of form to get more reps etc. Is this what the injuries are from?
I've had this conversations with a lot of people, so hopefully by now I have my counterpoint/explanation dialed in... so here goes.
Any trend that has been so over-hyped such as crossfit is going to attract negative criticism. I'll be the first to admit that crossfit is not the greatest fitness regimen in the world, nor is it the safest. I have been fortunate enough to practice at a gym owned by a CrossFit Games champion and with highly effective coaches. To briefly sum up the hierarchy of the crossfit methodology, it is encouraged that fundamentals are mastered before practicing intensity, meaning you want an athlete or gym-goer to proficiently practice movements through full range of motion before they add vomit-inducing intensity (hyperbole). The coaches at my gym preach safety over intensity and encourage resting before form breakdown. Unfortunately, not every gym is like this. I would venture to say my gym is in the minority. Anyone can get a coaching certification and anyone with a little bit of money can open a gym. Not to mention, crossfit has fostered a lot of misguided hardo's that videotape themselves practicing shitty movement patterns for the sake of intensity and grinding out extra reps, to the detriment of the sport. ultimately, the environment of the gym fosters safety. I've never had a coach tell me to toss my form out the window to go faster, but when you are practicing movements incorrectly, faults are accentuated at intensity. If you ingrain good movement patterns into an athlete, they will uphold those standards at high intensity.
considering the sheer volume of people that do crossfit, I wouldn't say it is plagued by injury. as is the same with any competitive sport, athletes practicing crossfit at a higher level than most are going to encounter injuries, aches, and pains. we all ski, so it's likely we've been injured to some degree skiing before. I follow a high volume, competitor's training platform. In an ideal world, I would be able to effectively maintain my body and flexibility. Unfortunately, my frame has a hard time supporting 215lbs and years of benching, not squatting, and bicep curls have left me relatively inflexible. not to mention, I spent the first 18 years of my life throwing baseballs, footballs, driving my shoulders into the ground, twisting ankles, landing on my hips, twisting my knees, etc. Add in holding 300lbs over my head, squatting near 400 to rock bottom, and my shoulders and hips are bound to get tight. It just so happens that now they are chronically tight and giving me a great deal of pain.
To the untrained eye, crossfit seems futile. The movement that sees the most criticism is the kipping/butterfly pull-up. I understand the criticism, it looks stupid and why not do them strict? My answer would be to maintain intensity in a metabolic conditioning workout. If you look at gymnastics, athletes are using arch/hollow and hip extension movements (the kip) to achieve positions of support on/over rings and bars, the idea being to move your body weight most efficiently. The same principle is being applied to crossfit, move your body weight most efficiently. I don't necessarilly like it or see it's need to be practiced in crossfit, but that's not really my decision to make.
To clarify, this was not an argument. I totally understand and would answer "yes" to your questions. This was simply a soliloquy on crossfit.
yup, I feels ya and people definitely hate on every new trend. Crazy you said you used to bench and bicep curl but not squat. That is funny lol it fits every stereotype out there. I didn't know there was people out there who actually skipped leg day. It is great that you've changed since those days. I am sure we all have! Makes sense what you're saying that your gym promotes proper form before going hard. I'd imagine newer people to the scene are the ones who jump right in with horrible form giving a bad name. That and the less professional gyms like you mentioned. We all do ski and all probably have bad knees. So your point about any hard training athlete being prone to injury makes sense as well.
I have not tried yoga (even though my girlfriend of 2.5 years has been a yoga instructor since we started dating) but it seems you may benefit greatly from it (well we all good) since you say you have/had flexible issues. She taught me different stretches and I have come miles since I started. The full body stretching is very important and seems to be as important (imo) as how much weight you're putting up.
This week was a deload for me, tried eating cleaner and less food, and doing more endurance & cardio stuff rather than heavy lifting to shed some fat (I hit 200 lbs and I'm 5' 8"). I realized I fucking hate dieting and I'm awful at it. I don't understand how bodybuilders eat such bland ass food. I'd rather be happy and eat delicious food than be miserable and eat rabbit food to keep a low BMI
louie.miragsI have not tried yoga (even though my girlfriend of 2.5 years has been a yoga instructor since we started dating) but it seems you may benefit greatly from it (well we all good) since you say you have/had flexible issues. She taught me different stretches and I have come miles since I started. The full body stretching is very important and seems to be as important (imo) as how much weight you're putting up.
I've actually done yoga, it's super fun especially when you're doing it with attractive women. Yoga butts in yoga pants. To be fair, I'm more flexible now than I have ever been. I have no problem squatting ATG or catching a clean/snatch at rock bottom. I can touch my toes now, too, which is something I had a hard time doing for the first 21 years of my life. I definitely want to do more yoga, though.
TheHamburglarThis week was a deload for me, tried eating cleaner and less food, and doing more endurance & cardio stuff rather than heavy lifting to shed some fat (I hit 200 lbs and I'm 5' 8"). I realized I fucking hate dieting and I'm awful at it. I don't understand how bodybuilders eat such bland ass food. I'd rather be happy and eat delicious food than be miserable and eat rabbit food to keep a low BMI
Think of it as more of a lifestyle than a diet. diets are temporary. If you're cutting, cut then adapt to maintain that body weight. once I went thru the mental realization that I wanted to eat cleaner permanently, it made a huge difference. Just eat food you can tolerate. If you like butter, sub unsalted butter. I season everything with olive oil, pepper, and garlic salt. Every sunday night, I make 5 days worth of bfast, lunch, and dinner, then rotate meals the following week. I eat a ton of fruit because I FUCKING LOVE pineapple. it's actually kinda fun.
TheHamburglarThis week was a deload for me, tried eating cleaner and less food, and doing more endurance & cardio stuff rather than heavy lifting to shed some fat (I hit 200 lbs and I'm 5' 8"). I realized I fucking hate dieting and I'm awful at it. I don't understand how bodybuilders eat such bland ass food. I'd rather be happy and eat delicious food than be miserable and eat rabbit food to keep a low BMI
I like french toast to damn much to care about my BF%.
As for BMI, if you have even looked at the inside of a weight room, you are probably 'suffering' from obesity.
TheHamburglarThis week was a deload for me, tried eating cleaner and less food, and doing more endurance & cardio stuff rather than heavy lifting to shed some fat (I hit 200 lbs and I'm 5' 8"). I realized I fucking hate dieting and I'm awful at it. I don't understand how bodybuilders eat such bland ass food. I'd rather be happy and eat delicious food than be miserable and eat rabbit food to keep a low BMI
Substitute a meal with a Kale, beets, cucumber, carrot, avacado smoothie with hemp protein. Add blueberries or strawberries (personal preference) and you have yourself a delicious meal. Don't look it as dieting as much as a lifestyle change. Calling it a diet sounds like a chore. You don't have to eat rabbit food. Chicken breast in the oven with mushrooms and carrots with broccoli cooked stove top is slamming! Natural peanut butter (no salt added, just peanuts) with multigrain crackers is slamming for dessert. Healthy meals can taste great
louie.miragsI was drinking coffee too but between the heart burn and feeling super thirsty I tried c4. Now I am addicted. I work out in the morning too. Besides the caffeine boost the pump is legit too. Not necessary but worth trying. Most shops have 1 serving packets that you can try cheap. I drink mine no more than 10 minutes before I start or you may feel your neck getting hot and may even feel agitated and ready to burst threw a wall.
On another note I bought chucks last week and I am loving them for lifting. Now my running sneakers feel like a cast when they're on. I shouldn't have waited this long.
I just ordered some, I'm excited to try it. Do you think it would be bad if I drank a cup of coffee and also drank the preworkout? Would that be too much caffeine? Because I love coffee way too much to give it up in the morning.
RedPandaI just ordered some, I'm excited to try it. Do you think it would be bad if I drank a cup of coffee and also drank the preworkout? Would that be too much caffeine? Because I love coffee way too much to give it up in the morning.
Depends on your caffeine tolerance. I've built up a tolerance to c4 to the point where i have to take 2 scoops to feel anything. Give it a go and see how you feel. Its time for me to stop taking preworkout for 2-3 weeks to loose the tolerance.
WheatDepends on your caffeine tolerance. I've built up a tolerance to c4 to the point where i have to take 2 scoops to feel anything. Give it a go and see how you feel. Its time for me to stop taking preworkout for 2-3 weeks to loose the tolerance.
Do you eventually build up a tolerance to the tingling feeling in your face and lips?
RedPandaIs preworkout worth trying? I work out in the morning so I usually have 2 cups of coffee and then go to the gym. Isn't it just mainly caffeine in it?
Pre workout is awesome, but you are right caffeine is the main ingredient to get you "hyped." I started making my own cocktail and its way way cheaper than buying C4 or whatever (6 month supply for $30-$40).
HolteDo you eventually build up a tolerance to the tingling feeling in your face and lips?
I did. I wish i didnt haha I love the feeling.
Loco-Deer-SlayerPre workout is awesome, but you are right caffeine is the main ingredient to get you "hyped." I started making my own cocktail and its way way cheaper than buying C4 or whatever (6 month supply for $30-$40).
HolteDo you eventually build up a tolerance to the tingling feeling in your face and lips?
First time I ever took a legit pre I sat under the bench tapping the bar violently to the beat of the song I was listening to. I wish I could go back and experince that workout again, incredible.
To answer your question, Ya it goes away. I really wish it didn't go away though it's a great feeling.
I broke my wrist a few years ago and broke my collarbone last year. We've just implemented front squats in our football lifting program and anybody that knows front squat knows theres two ways to hold the bar. But the wrists bent back kills my wrist and the bar across the front of my shoulders doesnt work because my collarbone protrudes and i caant keep the bar on my shoulders no matter how much i shoot my elbows out.
I'm just wondering if wrist straps could help me to have a better grip or if anybodies got experience with them. Thanks guys.
^not sure how effective wrist straps are on front squats, i always thought they were better for pulls where grip strength can be an issue. i'd think wrist mobility would be a better focus.
I broke my wrist a few years ago and broke my collarbone last year. We've just implemented front squats in our football lifting program and anybody that knows front squat knows theres two ways to hold the bar. But the wrists bent back kills my wrist and the bar across the front of my shoulders doesnt work because my collarbone protrudes and i caant keep the bar on my shoulders no matter how much i shoot my elbows out.
I'm just wondering if wrist straps could help me to have a better grip or if anybodies got experience with them. Thanks guys.
The only time I would use straps is during snatches, pulls (both clean and snatch grip) and sometimes deadlifts. I've heard of far too many stories of guys failing a rep (usually cleans, but same position), getting pinned under the bar and shattering both wrists when they fall (see the video for an example of what I'm talking about). You just can't bail from that position like you can with a snatch.
If you are having wrist pain, you might want to try wrist wraps. They offer varying levels of support (depending on how tight you go) without the restriction of movement you may get with a brace.
Always work on mobility and flexibility. Most people have trouble in the front rack and it takes time to develop the mobility to be comfortable, but eventually you'll get there.
(This is why you don't use straps from the front rack position)
[video]http://youtu.be/fV1_Od6kCWg[/img]
I broke my wrist a few years ago and broke my collarbone last year. We've just implemented front squats in our football lifting program and anybody that knows front squat knows theres two ways to hold the bar. But the wrists bent back kills my wrist and the bar across the front of my shoulders doesnt work because my collarbone protrudes and i caant keep the bar on my shoulders no matter how much i shoot my elbows out.
I'm just wondering if wrist straps could help me to have a better grip or if anybodies got experience with them. Thanks guys.
Toss some weight overhead and get some meaty delts going...
I use straps wrapped around the bar for front squats as it gets me in a better position (read: masks my mobility issues). I only use front squats as assistance for my more powerlifting-esque squat. My only weightlifting is when I do a super gross "clean" before overhead pressing when a rack isn't available to work in. Is my front rack something I should work on? Probably, but it's not a priority right now the straps work fine for me.
I also use the straps for partial deads from blocks to save my hands. For whatever reason, partials seem to rip calluses of the palm of my hand but I have no issues when pulling off the floor or from a deficit. Grip strength isn't the limiting factor in my pull so it doesn't really bother me to pull with straps.
I don't think wraps/braces will solve your problem as they will just reduce your mobility further. I'd use the straps wrapped around the bar or a cross position until you improve your mobility. The only time I use wrist wraps are any heavy pressing (overhead or bench) or low bar squatting as I have a bad habit of collapsing my wrists causing elbow issues.
RedPandaI just ordered some, I'm excited to try it. Do you think it would be bad if I drank a cup of coffee and also drank the preworkout? Would that be too much caffeine? Because I love coffee way too much to give it up in the morning.
My brother does that I'm pretty sure. Drinks coffee with breakfast then heads to the gym with preworkout drinking it maybe 35 mins later. I would recommend trying the preworkout first before that though. The first time you feel that rush it can take some getting used to. Plus in this scenario you must need tons of water to hydrate
Im in really really bad shape right now and i decided im going to get a membership to gym thats down the road from my work so im gonna stop down and start a membership next week (gonna go do it on payday cuz im lacking the funds for the activation fee and all that jazz rn) and gonna be committed to going to gym every day after work and doing a lot of cardio and heavy lift training.
Gonna try and go on a super strict diet as well. Really going to commit myself to this and get back into good shape. I hate being this out of it.
Chubz.Im in really really bad shape right now and i decided im going to get a membership to gym thats down the road from my work so im gonna stop down and start a membership next week (gonna go do it on payday cuz im lacking the funds for the activation fee and all that jazz rn) and gonna be committed to going to gym every day after work and doing a lot of cardio and heavy lift training.
Gonna try and go on a super strict diet as well. Really going to commit myself to this and get back into good shape. I hate being this out of it.
you should start filming mountain bikers, you're basically hiking with heavy gear for 4 to 5 miles a day. Build up those legs
TheFapyou should start filming mountain bikers, you're basically hiking with heavy gear for 4 to 5 miles a day. Build up those legs
i will probably dabble in that once i get out west but there's not a scene for that around here. we also don't have the terrain for it. But i could dig that, chilling in the mountains all day stacking shots would be awesome.
Chubz.i will probably dabble in that once i get out west but there's not a scene for that around here. we also don't have the terrain for it. But i could dig that, chilling in the mountains all day stacking shots would be awesome.
Chubz.i will probably dabble in that once i get out west but there's not a scene for that around here. we also don't have the terrain for it. But i could dig that, chilling in the mountains all day stacking shots would be awesome.
Just go outside, with a 45ish lb pack, and walk with a purpose, for 60-120min. Try and maintain a 14min/mile pace without running.
Chubz.Im in really really bad shape right now and i decided im going to get a membership to gym thats down the road from my work so im gonna stop down and start a membership next week (gonna go do it on payday cuz im lacking the funds for the activation fee and all that jazz rn) and gonna be committed to going to gym every day after work and doing a lot of cardio and heavy lift training.
Gonna try and go on a super strict diet as well. Really going to commit myself to this and get back into good shape. I hate being this out of it.
Good on ya for wanting to take control of health. But, you do not need that gym membership to start. Start out by changing one aspect of your daily diet meow. For example, no more soda (or any sugar loaded drink). Only have water and black coffee. Baby steps makes it easier not to fail and helps form habits. And maybe find an activity you can do in the mean time. Skiing is great but coming to an end. Maybe hike or bike ride? At least get moving. I hate seeing people buy memberships and pay the gym 30 a month and not even go! Go all in!
louie.miragsGood on ya for wanting to take control of health. But, you do not need that gym membership to start. Start out by changing one aspect of your daily diet meow. For example, no more soda (or any sugar loaded drink). Only have water and black coffee. Baby steps makes it easier not to fail and helps form habits. And maybe find an activity you can do in the mean time. Skiing is great but coming to an end. Maybe hike or bike ride? At least get moving. I hate seeing people buy memberships and pay the gym 30 a month and not even go! Go all in!
Mine is only 10 a month. Yay for YouFit. What are you guys paying for all your memberships? I'm curious to see how much everyone else is paying.
RedPandaMine is only 10 a month. Yay for YouFit. What are you guys paying for all your memberships? I'm curious to see how much everyone else is paying.
my gym is ~400$ per year for youth which is up to 17 years old. In October I'll be 18 so I hope to renew the membership before I turn 18 otheriwse its ~700 per year for adults.
I spent 3 years at Planet Fitness, $20/mo. But my gym decided to get rid of the benches and curl stations, so I finally dropped them. Just this week I signed up to Vasa Fitness, and I'm still at $20/mo. I'm pumped, because it's so much nicer. Way larger workout area, turf area with sleds, pool, hot tub, sauna, basketball courts, etc.
Yeah people were talking shit about youfit because of a lack of squat racks/benches/etc. so I was worried when I first signed up but it's been completely fine so far. There's 3 squat racks and like 4 or 5 benches and I'm the only one I've ever seen using the squat racks.
I'm not going to post what I pay because it is flat out embarrassing and I am basically getting cuckholded by my gym but I love it there and won't leave
I use a university's (that im not a student at) gym. It was $250 for 8 months. It could use some more racks and barbells and less treadmills but it gets the job done.
jblaskiI spent 3 years at Planet Fitness, $20/mo. But my gym decided to get rid of the benches and curl stations, so I finally dropped them. Just this week I signed up to Vasa Fitness, and I'm still at $20/mo. I'm pumped, because it's so much nicer. Way larger workout area, turf area with sleds, pool, hot tub, sauna, basketball courts, etc.
I spent a year and a half at PF before finally switching to a real gym. 3/4 of that time was without barbell equipment which sucks because I feel like I missed out on a lot of good lifting but at least PF gave me the ground work to move forward but anyone who thinks PF is a real gym is truly mistaken. Don't get LouieMirags started on ranting on PF lol. My current gym is now 33 a month. Decent equipment but a lot of it needs major upgrading. No hot girls either like PF but I'll trade that for real barbells and squat racks..
RedPandaMine is only 10 a month. Yay for YouFit. What are you guys paying for all your memberships? I'm curious to see how much everyone else is paying.
I am paying $29 a month meow. I finally googled other local gyms and was so happy I did. This one is nice and even has a shake/juice bar!
jblaskiI spent 3 years at Planet Fitness, $20/mo. But my gym decided to get rid of the benches and curl stations, so I finally dropped them. Just this week I signed up to Vasa Fitness, and I'm still at $20/mo. I'm pumped, because it's so much nicer. Way larger workout area, turf area with sleds, pool, hot tub, sauna, basketball courts, etc.
dude, I just did this too. Besides the removal of the free weights, I realized PF did not give a fuck about their patrons because every 30 mins the same commercial stating "the breakfast of champions" which is in reference to free bagels and cream cheese. REALLY!?!? Bagels and cream cheese is the breakfast of champions? And free pizza monthly? And free tootsie rolls because like the commercial said "you deserve it". NO. That sugar is horrible for you. They should be giving away free bananas after workouts... Also, squatting on J-machines is supposed to be horrible for your knees. That is all PF has for squatting. They only care about bottom line. Fuck that place!
Oh yeah and my current gym doesn't have nearly as many hott chicks as PF did. Only con in switching.
-benedettoDon't get LouieMirags started on ranting on PF
BenWhitI'm not going to post what I pay because it is flat out embarrassing and I am basically getting cuckholded by my gym but I love it there and won't leave
You said your gym was owned by a Games champion. Can I ask who it is (I'm assuming it's Holmberg?)
I've been pretty lucky out here. I go to a cf gym, but only pay $50/month for an open membership. I don't go to any of the classes and just do my own thing in my own little corner. Sometimes I help out with coaches when the oly lifts are involved and hopefully before too long I'll head up an olympic lifting class. If that happens I probably won't be paying anything for a membership, so that's pretty sweet.
saskskierYou said your gym was owned by a Games champion. Can I ask who it is (I'm assuming it's Holmberg?)
I've been pretty lucky out here. I go to a cf gym, but only pay $50/month for an open membership. I don't go to any of the classes and just do my own thing in my own little corner. Sometimes I help out with coaches when the oly lifts are involved and hopefully before too long I'll head up an olympic lifting class. If that happens I probably won't be paying anything for a membership, so that's pretty sweet.
My coach was on the CF New England Team back when they won the Team Cup and went on a pretty serious run at the Games. Not necessarily the same as an individual championship, but training consistently under Ben Bergeron at CFNE and training at that level on a team of individuals that would certainly be elite Regionals & Games competitors is not too far off. His name is Mat Frankel, dude is legit.
Chubz.Im in really really bad shape right now and i decided im going to get a membership to gym thats down the road from my work so im gonna stop down and start a membership next week (gonna go do it on payday cuz im lacking the funds for the activation fee and all that jazz rn) and gonna be committed to going to gym every day after work and doing a lot of cardio and heavy lift training.
Gonna try and go on a super strict diet as well. Really going to commit myself to this and get back into good shape. I hate being this out of it.
Don't go on a super strict diet right away, like Louie said. What I did when I first started cutting was just cut out certain things and compile them as time went on. Example: eliminate soda one week, cut back on sugar more next week, then drop sweets another week. Currently its very rare if I'm drinking something other than water, you just get accustomed to eating right and you feel a lot better, you'll get use to it.
louie.miragsGood on ya for wanting to take control of health. But, you do not need that gym membership to start. Start out by changing one aspect of your daily diet meow. For example, no more soda (or any sugar loaded drink). Only have water and black coffee. Baby steps makes it easier not to fail and helps form habits. And maybe find an activity you can do in the mean time. Skiing is great but coming to an end. Maybe hike or bike ride? At least get moving. I hate seeing people buy memberships and pay the gym 30 a month and not even go! Go all in!
ABallsDon't go on a super strict diet right away, like Louie said. What I did when I first started cutting was just cut out certain things and compile them as time went on. Example: eliminate soda one week, cut back on sugar more next week, then drop sweets another week. Currently its very rare if I'm drinking something other than water, you just get accustomed to eating right and you feel a lot better, you'll get use to it.
Thanks for the replies.
Ive cut out pop out of my diet a few years ago for the most part. Id really only drink soda when i go out to dinner and other sinilar occasions.
And i want to start a membersip because if i go to the gym ill actually have the motivation to do stuff there. I guess you could make the argument of its the same as leaving the house and going on a walk or jog. But i feel like i just wont do that at home. Idk i see your point tho. And thanks for the advice guys
