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hey-dude-its-me
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The creator of 'The gym.. Getting big' asked for her thread to be deleted for some reason so I made this one
Mar 4 2014 12:46PM
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hey-dude-its-me
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I buy weight gainer in bulk since they all taste good pretty much, idk the name of the one I have now but the bucket took pliers and a screwdriver to open in and a hammer to close it and was only like $80 on sale, I personally dont like the taste of the ON and since like you said the only time Im drinking it is after a workout and after a meal (no matter how much I eat I feel like theres always room for liquid calories) the taste is more important to me than the scientific claims

this is by far the best tasting non-chocolate protein Ive had, it didnt really sound good to me but it had a high taste rating on BB so I went wit it, gonna try some of their other ones soon. I also have phase 8 but theres no way to make a time relase protein taste good without mixing it with a normal one imo and the atmospheric dispersion or whatever is really annoying

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Mar 5 2014 11:43AM
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-benedetto
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I'm on mobile so I didn't quote your whole post for the point that I know you weren't talking to me the whole time. Referring to my routine of eating and telling me to learn how to cook.

Real food needs to make up the VAST majority of your nutrients- learn how to cook and what to cook, and what to buy now.

I just want to recommend not jumping down people's throats. You fulfill the gym stereotypes of meatheads who think it's their way and nothing else works.
Mar 5 2014 11:43AM
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californiagrown
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jesus christ are you on the rag?
Mar 5 2014 11:48AM
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swaggerboi
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Anyone have any experience lifting in a diaper? I had to move since the wolves got in, so I'm transitioning between home and public gym
Mar 6 2014 2:20PM
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deleted5
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You should be eating about every 3 hours, make sure there is fiber, protein and healthy fat in each meal. try to eat all the colors of the rainbow, its really not as bad or hard as I thought it would be.
Mar 6 2014 3:45PM
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hey-dude-its-me
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not worth its own thread but, is anyone watching game of arms? way overproduced and kind of silly but still kind of cool. the 165lb kid is amazing
Mar 11 2014 8:06PM
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jsweeze
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My main question is does OP even lift?
Mar 12 2014 1:03AM
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FunkyButtLoving
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Quick question:
I have just been starting to workout over the past year or so and have been wondering about the importance of taking a "day off" from exercise. I usually try to lift 3 times a week with HIIT during the other days during the week.

However, I always make to sure to include one day without lifting/cardio. Also try to stress hiking and other forms of exercise but was curious if it is super important to give your body at least a day to rest.

Also curious to see what other peoples weekly lifting schedule looks like.
Mar 12 2014 1:00PM
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Willgum
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I used to be on a three day schedule: Monday Wed friday, with light stretching/abs on the off days. I made great progress with so much rest, I'm not an expert but I think hiit training would be okay on the other days.

If you can afford staying at the gym a bit extra you might just want to bundle the hiit into your lifting so you can have 100% rest days .
Mar 12 2014 1:11PM
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louie.mirags
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I do a 4 day schedule and plenty of hiking and skiing in between. Or if the weather isn't right I'd go to the gym on a off day to ride the bike and do abs. I drink plenty of water and eat enough to compensate. I try not to overdo it on weight lifting days and I think the body will adapt to all the activity.
Mar 12 2014 1:21PM
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reBlocke
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Depends on what type of workout you're doing.. but keep in mind that you're actually getting stronger (ie. building new proteins, neuro adaptations, etc.) when you're resting and sleeping. If you're doing a fully body routine like starting strength, you absolutely need rest days after every workout. Light aerobic activity doesn't interfere with that - training for a marathon or something like HIIT would.

If you're doing something that splits your lifting up into 'arm days' / 'leg days' you can certainly lift more often. Some things (upper back) recover very quickly, while other things take more time (e.g.doing max deadlifts more than about ~1x /wk is asking for injury). Altho I'd recommend that if you're doing a split, you should stop doing it and start doing something like 5x5 Stronglifts / Starting Strength / etc.
Mar 12 2014 1:45PM
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MACAQUE
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What do you think a good protein/calorie target is for someone who's 5'8" 175lbs looking to gain 1 lb every 2 weeks?
Mar 12 2014 2:12PM
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DIX~
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People are gonna give you numbers for this but the reality is you're gonna have to experiment a bit. Depends on how much exercise you get as well. Try something ~3000kcal, and a good rule is get your bodyweight (in lbs) of protein (in g) per day. Track your weight and be consistent. Personally I think it's best to weigh yourself first thing in the morning before you eat or anything. Piss and shit if you can first too. If you do real cardio more than 3 days a week then you might need more, if you just lift and ski you will likely need 3000ish.
Mar 12 2014 4:40PM
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CaptainObvious.
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Can I get an honest consensus on why people hate on soy? And I mean soy as in eating soybeans. Not eating synthetic things made from "soy"
Mar 12 2014 4:43PM
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987321654hgfd
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I'm pretty sure it was thought that soy had an effect on testosterone. I believe that's been disproven though and I'm being too lazy to look it up. 
Mar 12 2014 4:51PM
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louie.mirags
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One thing i heard was to limit soy because it has estrogen in it...

http://www.menshealth.com/nutrition/soys-negative-effects
Mar 12 2014 4:54PM
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CaptainObvious.
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That's official enough for me.

*continues eating soybeans slathered in tabasco*
Mar 12 2014 4:55PM
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louie.mirags
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That dude was also drinking 3 quarts of soy milk a day.. that is probably equivalent to a shit ton of soy beans.
Mar 12 2014 4:57PM
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MACAQUE
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Word. I think I need to just be more consistent and see how it works out. Most days I'm at about 3k but then I'll just have a couple days where I don't eat anything all day because I'm studying
Mar 12 2014 4:59PM
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FunkyButtLoving
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I have read some about the negative effects of the increased estrogen from soy products but I think it is mostly hype/theory rather than anything proven.

I had a period where I was a pescatarian and felt fine eating edamame, tofu, etc.

And who drinks soy milk anymore...everyone knows almond milk is the best
Mar 12 2014 5:00PM
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CaptainObvious.
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Yeah that's my thought. I bet there are other items that if you drank the equivalent of 5 pounds worth of the veggie, you'd have some adverse affect.

2 cups of edamame isn't going to give me tits.
Mar 12 2014 5:00PM
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louie.mirags
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Try to eat some granola or a clif bar during the day, maybe some fruit. The longer I go without eating the harder I wanna binge out and wind up eating like shit. Also, better for your muscles during recovery. Not eating will lead to feeling so fatigued
Mar 12 2014 5:06PM
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milk_man
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Run 2 miles, 50 sit ups, 15 push ups and whatever else I feel like doing
Mar 12 2014 7:09PM
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californiagrown
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How old are you?

What is your Current Macro split?

5'8" 175lbs means you are either looking JaDope good, or you are a lil chubby. Im guessing a lil chubby. so around 15%-20% BF?

what does your typical diet look like now?


What does your training program look like?
Mar 12 2014 7:45PM
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californiagrown
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It has been SHOWN in multiple studies to increase estrogen in folks. Thats the reason middle age women are told to stay away- cause raised estrogen is a contributing cause for breast cancer.

It also is an incomplete protein, meaning it lacks a few amino acids that are neccessary for muscle building...which you can find easily in many other foods, so that doesnt really matter.

Another reason is that it is expensive, and just inefficient to consume enough of it. This is the real reason why it has a bad rap in the world of bro science. Its soooo much easier to just eat an animal product. Its not gonna make a damn bit of difference to you or I, but to a high level athlete the slightly increased estrogen levels could make a difference.


Go ahead and eat it as much as you want.
Mar 12 2014 7:50PM
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louie.mirags
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Stop trolling man. Some people are asking legit questions and want real advice. Go away.
Mar 12 2014 8:21PM
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californiagrown
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yeah. sure.

just dont rely on powders to get in your macros. they are meant to supplement your diet(hence the name "supplements") not be your diet.

Whey is the most popular cause it works, and its cheap.


Tuna is great, but only in moderation as your friend found out haha. the smaller the fish the more ou can eat it, the larger, the less often. Tilapia is cheap if you get it frozen and is a great protein and fat source.
Mar 12 2014 8:22PM
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CaptainObvious.
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So basically what I'm gathering from what you're saying is unless you're:
-a middle aged woman
-a true athlete
then eat it as much as you want. But eat it as a general vegetable that's good in a "getting your greens" kind of way. Don't look to it as a source of protein for any kind of muscle building whatsoever.
Mar 13 2014 11:07AM
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idskithat
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ive been doing the stronglifts 5x5 program and it has definetly been working. but i just fucked up my ac joint skiing so im out for awhile and pissed ill lose progress
Mar 13 2014 12:25PM
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987321654hgfd
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Really thinking about buying this (http://www.dynamicfitnessequipment.com/product_p/htscm1900pm.htm) and just lifting at home. The gym I go to is way too crowded and only has the bare essentials of things I use. On top of that the glove wearing clowns in there get all butthurt when I drop the bar or miss a lift.
Mar 13 2014 12:31PM
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deleted5
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go to a new gym
Mar 13 2014 6:47PM
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Mar 13 2014 7:30PM
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saskskier
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Do it, but it, but then give it to me.

Seriously though, I've heard amazing things about DHS equipment, especially their bars. Similar to Eleiko and Werk-San quality. I think it's what the Chinese national team uses for training.
Mar 13 2014 7:36PM
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987321654hgfd
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This is the only gym in the area besides crossfit gyms that has bumper plates.
Mar 13 2014 8:14PM
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987321654hgfd
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I was hoping you'd reply. That's what I've been reading. Basically from what I've gathered is that it's the best bar for the price. Plus the set comes with change plates and collars. An Eleiko set like that would cost me ~$1800 before the bar.
Mar 13 2014 8:17PM
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saskskier
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Eleiko is the dream, but right now I'd settle for any kilo plates. It sounds like the knurling is relatively similar to Eleiko (amazing for competition, brutal for training. Feels incredible, but like a cheese grater on the shins), but not quite as aggressive. I think you'll be stoked on that purchase. 190kg gives you a lot to work with.
Mar 13 2014 8:53PM
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saskskier
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Saw this on FB and laughed.

"There are two things to be taken from this meme...1) never touch a man while he's squatting unless the ship is sinking...and 2 either use a cage with safeties, get some side spotters or learn how to bail your squats properly....Problem solved."

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Mar 13 2014 9:01PM
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californiagrown
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its a fine protein source. not overly cheap or easy but it will be fine for you.
Mar 13 2014 9:22PM
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.AR6rider.
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His head looks awkwardly large compared to his body.
Mar 14 2014 9:13AM
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louie.mirags
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Only thing you could find wrong? You must be a stud.. Please enlighten us on your ways..
Mar 14 2014 9:54AM
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.AR6rider.
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Ah, I see you continue to hold a grudge against me for repeatedly making you and your brother look like fucking retards on this website.

Anyway...what?
Mar 14 2014 10:01AM
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louie.mirags
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Your routine.. do u even lift? Gym? Anything. That's what this thread is about.
Mar 14 2014 10:19AM
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CaptainObvious.
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Mar 14 2014 10:20AM
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louie.mirags
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Thanks for emphasizing my statement..
Mar 14 2014 10:31AM
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.AR6rider.
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No, I don't even lift, bro. Is that what you wanted to hear? That doesn't mean Dumont isn't small. He's cut, but he's tiny. He needs muscle mass.
Mar 14 2014 10:47AM
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MuckMaestro
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I'm sure many of you have heard of this but it kind of blew my mind. For me personally I carry around my blender bottle on campus for water all day before the gym and its always been a hassle. Also great that these guys are starting out here in Toronto, they also did an unreal pitch on Dragon's Den

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4voPxjR3Z8

Embedding help much appreciated, way too new to know how
Mar 19 2014 10:43PM
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californiagrown
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or you just get one of these free with your order and then you dont have to worry about an expensive, hard to clean shaker bottle...

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Mar 19 2014 10:57PM
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987321654hgfd
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Thanks to selling my motorcycle I now have my own spot to work out.

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Apr 3 2014 5:02PM
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hey-dude-its-me
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^almost as nice as my sears roebucks ted williams set
Apr 3 2014 5:13PM
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TheHamburglar
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Cirillo that set up is prime. hows the pendlay bar?
Apr 3 2014 5:37PM
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