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The creator of 'The gym.. Getting big' asked for her thread to be deleted for some reason so I made this one
Mar 4 2014 12:46PM
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.MASSHOLE.
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MACAQUEWent to the doctor's today and weighed 175.0 lbs with shoes on, so I figure I'm about 170 lbs buck naked. I'm 5'9". I'd estimate myself to be right around 12-15% BF based on comparison pictures from the internetz. To bulk or to cut, that is the question.


Pics needed for that. Everyone looks different even with BF%. Or at least to know your lifts.
Jun 17 2014 7:02PM
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juicedrummer11
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MACAQUEWent to the doctor's today and weighed 175.0 lbs with shoes on, so I figure I'm about 170 lbs buck naked. I'm 5'9". I'd estimate myself to be right around 12-15% BF based on comparison pictures from the internetz. To bulk or to cut, that is the question.


cut duh. its beach season. bulk in the winter
Jun 17 2014 7:12PM
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Charlie_Kelly
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juicedrummer11cut duh. its beach season. bulk in the winter


every season is bulk season.

Question for the smarter lifting bros, is it possible to bulk slightly while getting cut? Mainly I'm down to get cut but want to put some weight on. I know it sounds contradictory, thats why I ask. If not i'll just stick to bulking.
Jun 17 2014 8:53PM
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.MASSHOLE.
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Granite_Stateevery season is bulk season.

Question for the smarter lifting bros, is it possible to bulk slightly while getting cut? Mainly I'm down to get cut but want to put some weight on. I know it sounds contradictory, thats why I ask. If not i'll just stick to bulking.


Lean gains. Google it. Or go to http://www.reddit.com/r/leangains
Jun 17 2014 9:00PM
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Charlie_Kelly
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.MASSHOLE.Lean gains. Google it. Or go to http://www.reddit.com/r/leangains


danke kinda sir.
Jun 17 2014 9:27PM
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ABalls
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MACAQUEWent to the doctor's today and weighed 175.0 lbs with shoes on, so I figure I'm about 170 lbs buck naked. I'm 5'9". I'd estimate myself to be right around 12-15% BF based on comparison pictures from the internetz. To bulk or to cut, that is the question.


I was around 15 when I stared cutting like 8 weeks ago, just cut. If you get too high above 15 you'll just be uncomfortable.
Jun 17 2014 9:49PM
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californiagrown
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ABallsI'm going to try going on an empty stomach. I've heard a bunch of broscience about it though so I'm sceptical. One thing that does make sense is that the pre will have a better effect because you're coming off of a fast and there is no food in the stomach. I've gone up in weight in pretty much everything though so I'm super happy.

Go ahead and giver a try. Id suggest getting some easy digesting carbs in during the workout(im guessing lifting not cardio, right?) so you have enough glycogen in your muscles to get a decent pump. But honestly if you had a tone of carbs the night before it should be fine anyways.

Give it a try and see how you feel. If it works for you awesome, if it doesnt, you havent wasted much and youll know what doesnt work for you haha.
Granite_Stateevery season is bulk season.

Question for the smarter lifting bros, is it possible to bulk slightly while getting cut? Mainly I'm down to get cut but want to put some weight on. I know it sounds contradictory, thats why I ask. If not i'll just stick to bulking.


Here is a very good article on exactly what you are wanting to know.
http://www.t-nation.com/diet-fat-loss/bulking-diet-delusion
Jun 17 2014 11:55PM
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SkierPT
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Getting back into gym mode after an injury. Giving myself a one month challenge to eat good and lift good.I'm the typical ectomorph, tall and skinny. I did put on weight from lifting before my injury but I really want to dedicate myself this time lifting hard and eating right. Critique my meal plan for each day:

Breakfast:
Wheat cereal (1,2 bowls)
Eggs (2,3)
Banana

Snack:
Peanuts (couple handfuls)
Apple/Carrots
Peanut butter crackers

Lunch:
Wheat ham and turkey sandwich
Apple/Carrots
Fruit shake (strawberries, blueberries, yogurt, what ever else)

Snack:
Whey Protein shake

Dinner:
Lean chicken breast (cooked)
Pasta W/ beef and tomato sauce
Milk
Baked potato/corn


Really trying to gain. Thanks for any advice.
Jun 19 2014 11:47AM
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reBlocke
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^Plug your serving sizes into a calorie tracker (e.g. myfitnesspal), and if you're eating at a surplus w/ at least 1g protein per lb of body weight, you'll put on muscle. I wouldn't bother eating much more than 500 cal over your maintenance calorie requirements because any additional weight will probably be fat. Harris-benedict equation is a good start to figure out your calorie needs if you have no idea
Jun 19 2014 2:02PM
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cobra_commander
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Yesterday:
AM: RPFT

PM: Power Snatch 12x2x60% (45sec rest)
Deadlift: 10x5x60% (60sec rest)
2sec Pause Front Squat: 5x8x175(lb)
GHR: 3x10

What's your leg day?
Jun 19 2014 3:54PM
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Download-My-Apps
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ABallsI'm going to try going on an empty stomach. I've heard a bunch of broscience about it though so I'm sceptical. One thing that does make sense is that the pre will have a better effect because you're coming off of a fast and there is no food in the stomach. I've gone up in weight in pretty much everything though so I'm super happy.


What is your motive for exercising with an empty stomach?

What it does is essentially burns fats stores because there is less CHO & PRO readily available. Its really only helpful if you're trying to lose 'baby fat' with sustained exercise.

If anything, it would be counter productive for strength or muscle gains. I do not think think that will be have any influence on the effectiveness of your 'pre workout drink', other than it may deplete it stores quicker.
Jun 19 2014 4:57PM
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ABalls
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^would bcaa's help sustain the muscle? And after looking around a bit im going to credit my ferocious diarrhea to the amount of supps i took today. 60g's of protein, two scoops of pre and a scoop of creatine within 45 minutes probably wasnt the best idea.
Jun 19 2014 7:41PM
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cobra_commander
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ABalls^would bcaa's help sustain the muscle? And after looking around a bit im going to credit my ferocious diarrhea to the amount of supps i took today. 60g's of protein, two scoops of pre and a scoop of creatine within 45 minutes probably wasnt the best idea.


Protein has BCAAs in it by nature. If you are getting your protein intake from a good mix of red meat, dead birdies, and whey protein your body likely has an excess of BCAAs in it. 99% of people really don't need to add extra BCAAs to their shit. The only time I would recommend people specifically add BCAAs is if they are trying to do endurance style events (think marathon+ for time and intensity) while maintaining muscle mass and quality.

I'd add them in if those endurance races are your thing (take them mid race) or if you are doing a relatively moderate endurance event with less access to quality protein (think backpacking trips).
Jun 19 2014 7:51PM
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jca
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nick21861Getting back into gym mode after an injury. Giving myself a one month challenge to eat good and lift good.I'm the typical ectomorph, tall and skinny. I did put on weight from lifting before my injury but I really want to dedicate myself this time lifting hard and eating right. Critique my meal plan for each day:

Breakfast:
Wheat cereal (1,2 bowls)
Eggs (2,3)
Banana

Snack:
Peanuts (couple handfuls)
Apple/Carrots
Peanut butter crackers

Lunch:
Wheat ham and turkey sandwich
Apple/Carrots
Fruit shake (strawberries, blueberries, yogurt, what ever else)

Snack:
Whey Protein shake

Dinner:
Lean chicken breast (cooked)
Pasta W/ beef and tomato sauce
Milk
Baked potato/corn


Really trying to gain. Thanks for any advice.


you need more vegetables dood! add in some broccoli, spinach, red peppers, peas, tomatoes, etc. Just switch it up all the time and it doesn't get boring. I always try to have a bunch of different colours in each meal.
Jun 19 2014 11:00PM
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SkierPT
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jcayou need more vegetables dood! add in some broccoli, spinach, red peppers, peas, tomatoes, etc. Just switch it up all the time and it doesn't get boring. I always try to have a bunch of different colours in each meal.


My main issue is I'm pretty picky and don't like many veggies. Been considering adding kale and dark green leafy stuff to my shakes and pasta? Any other ideas?
Jun 19 2014 11:45PM
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123+ski
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trying to bulk up and also get rid of some fat, mostly inhering from labrum surgery last summer. Working with a trainer now mostly for back exercises and legs, and to specifically work on squats and flexibility. Currently 6' 1", 193 lbs, 24% body fat. Trying to get to 200+ lbs and sub 15% body fat, eventually somewhere like 215-225 and 10-15%. Gonna be lifting 4x a week, sometimes with cardio, sometimes not just depending on schedule/how I'm feeling. Then cardio for 45+ min at least 2x a week. Stretching everyday as well as a few shoulder exercises, and hopefully golfing more. I'm also planning on getting back in the foam pit, but after I have built up my back/core a little more, I was pretty sore last time.

I think I have that end mostly covered, but nutrition is where I need some help. I'm cutting back on beer, only 1-2 a day, but not necessarily everyday. Might drink a bit some times, but a max of probably 3x a month. I understand how many calories I need to gain (which I really need to force because I take adder all, though more sporadically in the summer), as well as where they need to come from. I downloaded a tracker app for calories, I really like it so far (my fitness pal). It doesn't have everything, but I can estimate reasonably well. What I am having trouble with is that I have a very high fat/high sodium diet. Like usually 30% or more (only been tracking 3 days) is from fat, and I have yet to be under 4500mg for sodium. Trainer suggested I go for salads with protein for lunch at work (likely the healthiest at the cafeteria). Otherwise I either cook most of my stuff, occasionally go out for dinner (max 1-2x weekly). I'm wondering if anyone has any tips as far as substitutes or common foods that would help balance out my diet. I'm gonna replace chips/salsa with carrots and hummus, and then sandwiches for lunch with salads (maybe a wrap occasionally). If anyone has any tips I would really appreciate it.
Jun 20 2014 12:01AM
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californiagrown
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nick21861Getting back into gym mode after an injury. Giving myself a one month challenge to eat good and lift good.I'm the typical ectomorph, tall and skinny. I did put on weight from lifting before my injury but I really want to dedicate myself this time lifting hard and eating right. Critique my meal plan for each day:

Breakfast:
Wheat cereal (1,2 bowls)
Eggs (2,3)
Banana

Snack:
Peanuts (couple handfuls)
Apple/Carrots
Peanut butter crackers

Lunch:
Wheat ham and turkey sandwich
Apple/Carrots
Fruit shake (strawberries, blueberries, yogurt, what ever else)

Snack:
Whey Protein shake

Dinner:
Lean chicken breast (cooked)
Pasta W/ beef and tomato sauce
Milk
Baked potato/corn


Really trying to gain. Thanks for any advice.

Youre not eating even close to enough. Flat out. You need more protein, more carbs and more fat. If you are in a bulking cycle tell veggies to fuck off, you only need enough veggies to keep bowel movements regular so you can keep refilling your gut with food. For example, i was 6'4" 190lbs in college and this was my diet when putting on muscle for the summers:

8:00- 50 gram protein shake, 3 packets oatmeal frozen blueberries
10:30- 4 egg, turkey, avocado, cheese sandwich on whole wheat toast, yogurt frozen blueberries
1:00- two turkey patty, with cheese bbq sandwich on whole wheat toast with 24 oz. milk and a pickle
3:00 two baked potatoes can of chili, avocado, cheese
5:30- 35g protein shake with banana
6:30- Steak, sautéed veggies, sautéed potato with 24 oz. milk
9:00- Sautéed veggie, spinach, and chicken salad with balsamic and olive oil dressing
10:30- yogurt and blueberries
11:30- cookies and milk.

cobra_commanderYesterday:
AM: RPFT

PM: Power Snatch 12x2x60% (45sec rest)
Deadlift: 10x5x60% (60sec rest)
2sec Pause Front Squat: 5x8x175(lb)
GHR: 3x10

What's your leg day?


My leg day(1 time per week):

20min warmup: foam roll, stretch, ghetto yoga shit, plyos
Back squat: 5-6 warmup sets leading to Heavy 3x5
Deadlift: 3-4 Warmup sets leading to Heavy 3x3
Smith Machine Pistol Squat: 3x8
Random calf stuff that i do every workout anyways.
Abs

I also MTB 2 days a week. I dont want my legs bigger as i have a hard enough time finding pants in a 32x34 that fit over my thighs haha. about 10 weeks out from ski season i bump up the volume and start training legs again instead of just maintaining strength.
Jun 20 2014 12:26AM
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jca
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nick21861My main issue is I'm pretty picky and don't like many veggies. Been considering adding kale and dark green leafy stuff to my shakes and pasta? Any other ideas?


green smoothies can be pretty damn good. I usually do half an avocado, a banana, scoop of vanilla protein, scoop of hemp hearts, cinnamon, as much spinach or kale that will fit in, then topped up with milk.

Add spinach to stuff you're pan frying, like chicken, eggs, stir fry, etc.

Look up recipes for cool salads and dressings and just get stoked on experimenting with new stuff.

I think if you try to start eating more and more veggies and finding new ways to cook em and incorporate them into meals then you'll start liking them and probably be more healthy in the end.
Jun 20 2014 12:39AM
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Anathema
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legs:

back squat
front squat
overhead squat
deadlift
sldl
rdl
pistols
swings
Jun 20 2014 12:50AM
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saskskier
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cobra_commanderWhat's your leg day?


Everyday (I'm at the gym) is leg day

I usually vary between snatch days and clean+jerk days. Depending on how many days I get to the gym (which hasn't been a lot lately) one day I'll work up to a max single rep. Other days may be max double or triple rep of straight accessory work (hangs, blocks, etc). Regardless of the lift I'm working on, I end my workout in the squat rack.

Usually 3x5 or 5x5 (or 3x3, 5x3 if I'm rushed), but some days I'll work up to a heavy single. Obviously those are increasing weight each set.

Current 3 rep back squat is 405 and 5 rep is 385.
Jun 20 2014 1:10AM
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jca
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Current leg day:
Warm up of walking or biking to the gym. Hip flexor, hamstring, and ankle stretching. Shoulder and thoracic mobility work. Light RDL 8x2, pullups 10x3.

Power clean 5x4
Front Squat 5x2, 3x2.
Back Squat 5/3/1 + a high rep backoff set.
Barbell Hip Thrust 6x4 (both legs or single leg depending on the day)
Reverse Woodchop 6x4
Jun 20 2014 2:17AM
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flatland
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Just finished running Smolov, so death by squatting was happening 3 or 4 times/week for the last 3 months. The worst day was the second last day, which involved working up to 2x5 at 385 and 3x4 at 405. Incredibly slow sets, it was not uncommon to take a minute to finish a triple.

Ended up squatting 445 for a 40lb all time PR and even hit a 515 dl for a 6lb PR despite not pulling once the entire time.
Jun 20 2014 1:31PM
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kingsskier
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Get swole
Jun 20 2014 11:19PM
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ABalls
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this will be my first time training fasted. im going for about 10 minutes of hiit, 20 minutes of steady state, and about 30 minutes of lifting.
Jun 22 2014 8:42AM
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juicedrummer11
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ABallsthis will be my first time training fasted. im going for about 10 minutes of hiit, 20 minutes of steady state, and about 30 minutes of lifting.


kinda what im doing but backwards and not fasting beforehand. kinda wanted to do a "cut" workout to up the intensity and start gettin back in shape for ski season
Jun 22 2014 10:33PM
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ABalls
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Im gonna guess that I hit a plateau. I started off with a pretty serious diet change and dropped 4 pounds but im no longer dropping weight. I can tell that im putting muscle on but my bf% has looked pretty much the same for the past 4 weeks. Anyone have any tips? Should i just increase cardio? Im currently going 5 days a week with about 10-20 minutes of cardio on each day.
Jun 23 2014 7:57PM
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formerly known as MostDope or DopeBoyFresh
Jun 23 2014 8:05PM
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louie.mirags
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ABallsIm gonna guess that I hit a plateau. I started off with a pretty serious diet change and dropped 4 pounds but im no longer dropping weight. I can tell that im putting muscle on but my bf% has looked pretty much the same for the past 4 weeks. Anyone have any tips? Should i just increase cardio? Im currently going 5 days a week with about 10-20 minutes of cardio on each day.


Besides the workout routine, try taking a closer look at your diet as well. Ecspecially if you're seeing muscle gains and like your workout.
Jun 23 2014 8:16PM
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zues
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you aware?
Jun 23 2014 8:47PM
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ABalls
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louie.miragsBesides the workout routine, try taking a closer look at your diet as well. Ecspecially if you're seeing muscle gains and like your workout.


I'm gonna count calories tomorrow to zero in on what im eating. Ill probably end up cutting something.
Jun 23 2014 8:53PM
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MTPOW
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So I'm pretty skinny right now, 6'2, 170, 18 years old. I want to get stronger for bow hunting but also get bigger, what should I set my goals for? Any programs that would match that?
Jun 23 2014 9:53PM
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Toasty.
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MTPOWSo I'm pretty skinny right now, 6'2, 170, 18 years old. I want to get stronger for bow hunting but also get bigger, what should I set my goals for? Any programs that would match that?


I did Y3T training program on BB.com. I saw some decent gains. Take creatine, eat lots of food.
Jun 23 2014 9:58PM
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juicedrummer11
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MTPOWSo I'm pretty skinny right now, 6'2, 170, 18 years old. I want to get stronger for bow hunting but also get bigger, what should I set my goals for? Any programs that would match that?


dude that was me exactly about a year ago. i am also 6'2" and used to be a measly 170-173 on a heavy food day. im up to about 189 now and i would recommend like big man on campus from bodybuilding and also shortcut to size also on bodybuilding. i did those two and noticed quite a difference after the bmoc one cuz thats when i had all my beginner gains. but definitely start eating more and keep it as clean as you can and the muscle will stack on
Jun 24 2014 3:05AM
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whats everyones thoughts on stiff leg deadlifts? does it not fuck with your normal deadlift form?
Jun 24 2014 1:20PM
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Toasty.
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tusken_assraiderwhats everyones thoughts on stiff leg deadlifts? does it not fuck with your normal deadlift form?


They are great. And they shouldnt mess up your form, if you do them correctly they work your legs, yes you will feel it in you lower back, but they are mainly for legs. I personally put a 5 lb plate under each heel.
Jun 24 2014 6:18PM
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Anathema
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dont offload your hamstrings. the point is to work them out.

i understand raising your heels for squats, but not things like hamstring exercises. the point of a deadlift is to eccentrically load those hammies. dont shorten them because you have bad flexibility. work on your flexibility and do shit properly.
Jun 24 2014 6:58PM
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ABalls
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So today was pretty average regarding food and the gym, the amount of carbs was pretty high though. Not everything is exact but it is very close. Only drank water all. 8 bottles

Breakfast: 4 eggs, 1 yogurt bar, 1 clif bar, 1 banana, water
44g protein 54g carbs 12g fats 660 calories

Lunch: 1 chicken wrap, 1 baked potato, water
20g protein 90g carbs 13g fats 700 calories

I didnt have a legitimate dinner so heres what was consumed post lunch
Special k bar, chewy dips bar, chicken salad sandwich, scoop of whey, 1 sausage
76g protein 81g carbs 40g fats 870 calories

At the gym i burned about 220 calories with cardio and I lifted for about 50 minutes but i dont know how much that burned.

Totals: 140g protein 225g carbs 65g fats 2230 calories

Should I cut something, add something?
Jun 24 2014 11:21PM
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hey-dude-its-me
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What is the best workout strategy to look ur best in 2 weeks? More cardio? no cardio? heavy weights? high reps? workout a lot? workout a lot and then a little? Legs? No legs? etc, or don't change?
Jun 25 2014 12:32AM
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californiagrown
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tusken_assraiderwhats everyones thoughts on stiff leg deadlifts? does it not fuck with your normal deadlift form?

I dont do em becuase my hammies get catostrophically sore. like to the point that i cannot lift legs for 10 days afterwards, and it is borderline a hamstring tear everytime. If you like em, then keep doing them, they are a great movement. My front squat doesnt mess with my back squat form, so why would RDL/SDL fuck with my DL form?
ABallsSo today was pretty average regarding food and the gym, the amount of carbs was pretty high though. Not everything is exact but it is very close. Only drank water all. 8 bottles

Breakfast: 4 eggs, 1 yogurt bar, 1 clif bar, 1 banana, water
44g protein 54g carbs 12g fats 660 calories

Lunch: 1 chicken wrap, 1 baked potato, water
20g protein 90g carbs 13g fats 700 calories

I didnt have a legitimate dinner so heres what was consumed post lunch
Special k bar, chewy dips bar, chicken salad sandwich, scoop of whey, 1 sausage
76g protein 81g carbs 40g fats 870 calories

At the gym i burned about 220 calories with cardio and I lifted for about 50 minutes but i dont know how much that burned.

Totals: 140g protein 225g carbs 65g fats 2230 calories

Should I cut something, add something?

Id up protein to 1g/lb bodywieght and cut out 50% of your carbs from your meals; no need for a ton of carbs at every meal if you are not trying to purely bulk. Now add that 50% back in IMMEDIATLEY during and after your workout. AKA if your workout is from 4:00-5:00, you have from 4:00-6:00 to get those carbs in.

Was that clear? If not PM me.
Jun 25 2014 12:58AM
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.MASSHOLE.
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hey-dude-its-meWhat is the best workout strategy to look ur best in 2 weeks? More cardio? no cardio? heavy weights? high reps? workout a lot? workout a lot and then a little? Legs? No legs? etc, or don't change?


Depends for how long you want to look good.

If it is a short period of time, cut water weight. That means lots of exercises that will raise your heart rate while cutting back on water and carbs.

Long period of time, well, two weeks is not that far away. You probably will not see a huge amount in gains/muscle definition unless you are spending hours upon hours in the gym. If you want more definition, just deload and increase the rep amounts.
Jun 25 2014 8:06AM
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californiagrown
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.MASSHOLE.Depends for how long you want to look good.

If it is a short period of time, cut water weight. That means lots of exercises that will raise your heart rate while cutting back on water and carbs.

Long period of time, well, two weeks is not that far away. You probably will not see a huge amount in gains/muscle definition unless you are spending hours upon hours in the gym. If you want more definition, just deload and increase the rep amounts.


there is literally nothing correct in this post. It is one giant facepalm.

To the member who asked the question- just keep doing what you are doing, assuming you have a relativley dialed training and diet regimen already. You are not going to create any changes in your physique that will be noticed by anyone other than yourself or BB judges in 2 weeks.

honestly, make sure you are tanned and that will make a far greater difference in your appearnce.
Jun 25 2014 10:24PM
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.MASSHOLE.
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californiagrownthere is literally nothing correct in this post. It is one giant facepalm.

To the member who asked the question- just keep doing what you are doing, assuming you have a relativley dialed training and diet regimen already. You are not going to create any changes in your physique that will be noticed by anyone other than yourself or BB judges in 2 weeks.

honestly, make sure you are tanned and that will make a far greater difference in your appearnce.


Cutting water weight? Correct me if I am wrong, but cutting water weight and carbs which help store water, will increase definition. Why else would BB cut those things?

The rest is probably wrong, I am just regurgitating what I have been told/heard. Second hand knowledge.
Jun 25 2014 10:27PM
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ABalls
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@californiagrown thank you... one thing i dont understand is that I actually dropped about 8 pounds. Im currently at 204. I probably wasnt weighing myself correctly because that number just started showing up last week and ive been hopping on the scale at night. Anyways, even though ive been consistently dropping weight I havent noticed a change in how my upper body looks. Its like ive just stayed the same for 4 weeks. Anyone have any recommendations or an explanation?
Jun 26 2014 11:40PM
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californiagrown
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ABalls@californiagrown thank you... one thing i dont understand is that I actually dropped about 8 pounds. Im currently at 204. I probably wasnt weighing myself correctly because that number just started showing up last week and ive been hopping on the scale at night. Anyways, even though ive been consistently dropping weight I havent noticed a change in how my upper body looks. Its like ive just stayed the same for 4 weeks. Anyone have any recommendations or an explanation?


I have no idea what you are talking about regarding your weight. Mas explanation por favor. Regardless, are you going up in your weights? are you getting stronger? Is your cardio improving? If those are a yes, you are on the right track.

The scale is not an overly great tool. the mirror and your workout log should be the two main tools you use. A lot of people, when they first start training, dont lose, dont gain, but maintain weight and get frustrated. What they dont realize is that they are getting newbie gains in muscle, AND losing fat at the same time.
Jun 27 2014 12:19AM
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californiagrown
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.MASSHOLE.Depends for how long you want to look good.

If it is a short period of time, cut water weight. That means lots of exercises that will raise your heart rate while cutting back on water and carbs.

Long period of time, well, two weeks is not that far away. You probably will not see a huge amount in gains/muscle definition unless you are spending hours upon hours in the gym. If you want more definition, just deload and increase the rep amounts.


cutting water for bodybuilders is to make sure ther is no subcutaneous film of water to obsucre muscle fiber. If you arent at 2% BF cutting water will do nothing because you still have a layer of fat obscuring muscle fiber. It will simply be unhealthy and make your skin look like shit.

BBers actually carb load before going on stage to ensure that their muscles appear full. If you cut out carbs your muscles will appear flat and deflated.

Spending hours upon hours in the gym does not make you build muscle. quite the opposite actually.

Low weight high reps doesnt help you cut any faster. Diet is what cutting is all about. In fact BBers generally keep high wieght low reps while cutting to ensure they keep the most muscle possible.


Like i said, literally everything is wrong with what you said.
Jun 27 2014 12:26AM
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ABalls
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Im Going up with weights and cardio. What i was getting at is that I see improvements on both the weights and the scale but not really the mirror anymore. I dont know where the fat is being lost from. I would really like to see what my bmi is now though.
Jun 27 2014 12:45AM
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californiagrowncutting water for bodybuilders is to make sure ther is no subcutaneous film of water to obsucre muscle fiber. If you arent at 2% BF cutting water will do nothing because you still have a layer of fat obscuring muscle fiber. It will simply be unhealthy and make your skin look like shit.

BBers actually carb load before going on stage to ensure that their muscles appear full. If you cut out carbs your muscles will appear flat and deflated.

Spending hours upon hours in the gym does not make you build muscle. quite the opposite actually.

Low weight high reps doesnt help you cut any faster. Diet is what cutting is all about. In fact BBers generally keep high wieght low reps while cutting to ensure they keep the most muscle possible.


Like i said, literally everything is wrong with what you said.


Learn something new every day.

Thanks for that.
Jun 27 2014 8:14AM
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louie.mirags
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ABallsIm Going up with weights and cardio. What i was getting at is that I see improvements on both the weights and the scale but not really the mirror anymore. I dont know where the fat is being lost from. I would really like to see what my bmi is now though.


That sounds like a diet issue. Eat what ya want. But, you want to look cut it starts with diet
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Wolfgang.
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Use fat gripz, they increase arm strength ten fold.
Jun 27 2014 1:33PM
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Charlie_Kelly
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Well it's been about a month since I started my summer workout regiment. Have put roughly 5 lbs on and am on the verge of 160 lbs. People have also complimented me saying I look bigger. Feels good.

@Aballs, I was sort of like you. I was stuck at 155 for a while (even working out at school). Since the summer started I have been eating healthier, probably eating 170g's of protein a day, all clean, and working out 4-5 times a week. It took a while to push past that wall (like californiagrown has mentioned) where you are gaining muscle and losing fat. It was frustrating but once you start gaining its a huge confidence boost.

Gonna up my cardio (barely have been doing it only playing hockey a few times a month. My question, should I do cardio on lifting days? Or should I do it on my "rest" days?

My goal of 170-175 lbs by the end of summer is in reach!
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