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The creator of 'The gym.. Getting big' asked for her thread to be deleted for some reason so I made this one
Mar 4 2014 12:46PM
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cobra_commanderGood luck falling asleep.

It depends on the work out. I'd be unable to sleep for a few hours after most workouts, body temp would be to high, with higher blood flow. There are others where the intensity will have me completly drained by the end of them, where it takes real effort to down a milk shake prior to falling asleep. I don't think most people train to this level.


Is it weird if sometimes when I cant sleep, I go workout, and then usually I will fall asleep very easily.
May 27 2014 3:20PM
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ABallsGonna start doing a hiit program. M/W/F is full body lifting and Tu/Th is a 30 sec sprint followed by a 30 sec brisk walk for 30 sec adding up to 8 minutes.


This seems like a pretty good plan. The tempo work of the 30:30s should help catalysis the fat loss you are looking for, just be sure to stick to your diet.

I would encourage you to add calisthenics and body weight movements to the Tu/Th run days. High rep push ups, ab work, GHRs, dips, single leg squats (pistols) and pull ups.

This will also allow you to focus on the weighted compound movements M/W/F and not be distracted by accessory work.
May 27 2014 3:30PM
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cobra_commanderThis seems like a pretty good plan. The tempo work of the 30:30s should help catalysis the fat loss you are looking for, just be sure to stick to your diet.

I would encourage you to add calisthenics and body weight movements to the Tu/Th run days. High rep push ups, ab work, GHRs, dips, single leg squats (pistols) and pull ups.

This will also allow you to focus on the weighted compound movements M/W/F and not be distracted by accessory work.


Thank you I'll definitely add those in.
May 27 2014 3:45PM
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cobra_commanderGood luck falling asleep.

It depends on the work out. I'd be unable to sleep for a few hours after most workouts, body temp would be to high, with higher blood flow. There are others where the intensity will have me completly drained by the end of them, where it takes real effort to down a milk shake prior to falling asleep. I don't think most people train to this level.


Oh geez, couldn't agree more. I lift first thing in the morning and at lunch because it wakes me up! Then again, I go to bed around 9pm and get up at 4am... If I lift late, even when I go to failure, I'm wired for hours.

As far as straps go: I swear by them after getting tendinitis in my left forearm (I couldn't touch my index finger and thumb together). I do plenty of grip strengthening/forearm exercises, and I try to do most lifting without straps, but there are definitely leg and back exercises that I'll strap up for when going heavy.
May 27 2014 3:47PM
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Just couldn't sprint for as long as I was supposed to. I consider myself pretty good when it comes to cardio but that was a whole new monster. I probably sprinted for 2 minutes and rested for 6. I'll have to give it a few weeks before I can run the actual plan but I feel like today was a good start.
May 27 2014 7:11PM
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New Powerclean PR of 185. I dont intend to go super high with it considering I do not train it for weight like I do bench, squat, OHP, Deads. But I am pretty happy with that considering its more than my body weight.
May 27 2014 7:24PM
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Are you looking to build your aerobic capacity or lactic capacity with the sprints.

If you were unable to maintain the speed and felt your legs burning you were testing your lactic capacity, not your aerobic capacity.
May 27 2014 7:34PM
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ABallsJust couldn't sprint for as long as I was supposed to. I consider myself pretty good when it comes to cardio but that was a whole new monster. I probably sprinted for 2 minutes and rested for 6. I'll have to give it a few weeks before I can run the actual plan but I feel like today was a good start.


The only cardio I do is HIIT. When I do sprints, I never ever do equal amounts of sprint and rest. My typical sprint HIIT looks something like this:

5 min warmup: 15% incline at 7mph

35 sec 5% at 9.5 mph
1:25 5% at 4 mph

35 sec 8% at 9.5 mph
1:25 8% at 4 mph

35 sec 8% at 10 mph
1:25 8% at 4 mph

35 sec 8% at 10.5 mph
1:25 8% at 4mph

35 sec 10% at 9.5 mph
1:25 10% at 4 mph

35 sec 10% at 10 mph
1:25 10% at 4 mph

35 sec 10% at 10.5 mph
1:25 10% at 4 mph

35 sec 10% at 11 mph
1:25 10% at 4 mph

35 sec 10% at 11.5 mph
1:25 10% at 4 mph

35 sec 10% at 12 mph
1:25 10% at 4 mph

35 sec 10% at 11.5 mph
1:25 10% at 4 mph

35 sec 10% at 11 mph
1:25 10% at 4 mph

35 sec 8% at 11 mph
1:25 8% at 4 mph

35 sec 8% at 10.5 mph
1:25 8% at 4 mph

35 sec 5% at 10 mph
1:25 5% at 4 mph

5 min cool down walk

This totals out to 30 minutes (plus ten minutes for cool down/warm up) with 8:45 sprint and 21:15 rest. Include the ten seconds or so that it takes your machine to get up to speed and down to speed in your rest time. You may want to start out with smaller inclines and work your way up, but make sure that your sprints are TRULY pushing yourself to your absolute limit and running as fast as you possibly can for those 35 seconds. You're only going to be doing 8:45 of sprinting total, so make those seconds count to the max. This is true HIIT. If you're not to the point of feeling like you're going to puke during the working seconds, then you're not going hard enough. You need longer rest periods to recover with HIIT if you're really working as hard as you should be during the work. It's called high intensity interval training for a reason. If you're to the point where you only need equal recovery time to work time (eg: 30 sec sprint to 30 sec rest), then it's time to up the ante because you're not doing true HIIT. There's my two cents.
May 27 2014 8:03PM
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Sdot.5 min warmup: 15% incline at 7mph


Sorry, this should say 5% incline at 7mph, not 15%.
May 27 2014 8:04PM
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Sdot.Oh geez, couldn't agree more. I lift first thing in the morning and at lunch because it wakes me up! Then again, I go to bed around 9pm and get up at 4am... If I lift late, even when I go to failure, I'm wired for hours.

As far as straps go: I swear by them after getting tendinitis in my left forearm (I couldn't touch my index finger and thumb together). I do plenty of grip strengthening/forearm exercises, and I try to do most lifting without straps, but there are definitely leg and back exercises that I'll strap up for when going heavy.


I wish I could work out in the morning, but I can't handle it. I'm definitely a night owl, but if I work out too late, my sleep is shot. I get off work at 4:30 and head straight to the gym for an hour/hour and a half. Pretty much perfect.

How is training going? Any shows coming up?
May 27 2014 8:24PM
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There are multiple ways to train using sprints and HIT or HIIT. Which method you choose should be based on what you are trying to improve: aerobic capacity, lactic capacity, Alactic capacity, mental toughness, top speed (Alactic power), fat loss.
Base your intervals and intensity around your current capabilities and goals.
May 27 2014 8:50PM
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@sdot thanks man, I was just full out sprinting for the 30 seconds so around 17 mph. I kept running until failure each time but my speed kept going down with each sprint. Are you running at full speed during your intervals or at controlled speed?
May 27 2014 8:57PM
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ABalls@sdot thanks man, I was just full out sprinting for the 30 seconds so around 17 mph. I kept running until failure each time but my speed kept going down with each sprint. Are you running at full speed during your intervals or at controlled speed?



As a track/cross country runner for the past 4 years, intervals should never be your 100% race/sprinting pace, unless your running for fastest time, the goal of your intervals should be to run a pace you can maintain for ALL of them, then work on bringing that pace down. This is the best way to both avoid injury, build speed and increase your stamina.

A good way to think about it is, if you're doing 5 sets of 5 on bench, are you gonna start with your 5 rep max, then only get up 2, 3, or 4 times for the next 4 sets and call it good? No, you're going to either build up to your highest weight, or keep a consistent wieght all the way through.

That's how I trained for middle-distance in track, long distance in cross country, the intervals were different distances and paces, but the concept is always the same. The intervals are how you condition yourself. In your case, without previous running experience, sprinting can be a really good way to hurt yourself, it puts a lot of pressure on your joints and muscles, so definitely run a consistent pace, then work on LOWERING that pace.

Interval work is one of the best things you can do for your body, if done right:
Make sure you do a proper warm up jog and cool down (same "conversation" pace, you should be able to comfortable talk to someone.)
Now, just because you're trying to run consistently doesn't mean you should be running slow, still run hard and push yourself for whatever intervals you're doing.
Stretch AFTER you run to prevent cramps and buildups of lactic acid
May 27 2014 10:49PM
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ABalls@sdot thanks man, I was just full out sprinting for the 30 seconds so around 17 mph. I kept running until failure each time but my speed kept going down with each sprint. Are you running at full speed during your intervals or at controlled speed?


She's a chick FYI.




What shoes are people wearing? Im looking for a crossfit type shoe with very little cushioning. the issue is, if it doesnt have much cushioning then its fucking useless for anything other than lifting eg no hiking, tennis, or anything else athletic. Im thinking about just using some vans slip ons, or low chucks, or something similar because theyre a cheap shoe that will cover my basic needs in the gym me thinks.

thoughts anyone?
May 28 2014 12:35AM
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californiagrownShe's a chick FYI.




What shoes are people wearing? Im looking for a crossfit type shoe with very little cushioning. the issue is, if it doesnt have much cushioning then its fucking useless for anything other than lifting eg no hiking, tennis, or anything else athletic. Im thinking about just using some vans slip ons, or low chucks, or something similar because theyre a cheap shoe that will cover my basic needs in the gym me thinks.

thoughts anyone?


Lot's of people seem to like the Reebok Nano's (their crossfit shoe). I've got a pair of the first generation's and they are pretty decent, but are really stiff and pretty terrible for running. I think the second, third and upcoming fourth generations are supposed to be better. They tend to be a bit wider (which I like).

The other "go-to" crossfit shoes are Innov8's, New Balance Minimus and Merrel Trail Gloves.

All will be pricier than Vans or chucks, but should be better for anything athletic.
May 28 2014 1:01AM
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Usually for a workout I just use skate shoes too. Unless I'm running obviously but for all my powerlifts they get the job done
May 28 2014 1:09AM
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For lifting anything heavy I would avoid something with a soft cushioned midsole / heel.
My ROM is not great so I allways use an Oly shoe for squats, pressing, and oly lifts. Unless I am running I won't change them out for the rest of the workout.
Deadlifts are done without shoes.
Otherwise I wear a pair of Salomon training shoes.
I had inov8s but they hurt my feet to run any distance in (I'm a mid foot striker).

I have a friend who does strength sports who uses Nike lifting shoes, 6in chucks, and addidas indoor soccer shoes. He does not run much and the chucks allow him to spread the floor better than I can in socks.
May 28 2014 1:17AM
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I wear nike braatas same thing as chucks
May 28 2014 9:34AM
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saskskierI wish I could work out in the morning, but I can't handle it. I'm definitely a night owl, but if I work out too late, my sleep is shot. I get off work at 4:30 and head straight to the gym for an hour/hour and a half. Pretty much perfect.

How is training going? Any shows coming up?


I used to work out right after work, but I can't stand it now. I used to be a lot more social at the gym and would say hi to everyone I know... I'd also spend 3-4 hours a day there because of it. Ridiculous. Now, I go at 5am when the gym opens because it's a small, tight-knit crew who all just says or nods hi, and we motivate and push each other. No bullshit, and we get in and get out in an hour (or two on leg days). The workouts are more intense, and equipment is always open... And nobody curls in the squat rack. ;)

Training is going really well! I've almost completely changed up my training AND my nutrition, and I'm so much happier. I have far more flexible dieting and stick to basically nothing except counting my macros (not to a T, but fairly accurately), and avoiding refined sugars and foods that are garbage (I did have an ice cream cone last night). I'm training more for my wedding in two months than anything right now! The promoter/organizer of the biggest fitness show up here (The Alaska Fitness Expo) put a photo of me as the main picture on the posters this year, so now I'm basically obligated to compete at Crystal Cup on October 11th. AH. That'll make it a year since my last show, so we'll see how it goes. I took off nearly five months from lifting (due to back injury followed by lack of motivation) and diet following last fall when I did three back-to-back shows in five weeks. Kind of had to start all over from the beginning, and I'm happy with my progress so far.

How's your training been? Any lifting competitions for you coming up?

californiagrownWhat shoes are people wearing? Im looking for a crossfit type shoe with very little cushioning. the issue is, if it doesnt have much cushioning then its fucking useless for anything other than lifting eg no hiking, tennis, or anything else athletic. Im thinking about just using some vans slip ons, or low chucks, or something similar because theyre a cheap shoe that will cover my basic needs in the gym me thinks.

thoughts anyone?


I absolutely LOVE inov-8 shoes. Every pair of workout related shoes I've purchased in the past two years has been that brand. I've got over a dozen different pairs, including lifting shoes (with the rigid wedge heel for squats/deads), barefoot type shoes that are similar to the Nano (but better, in my opinion), trail running shoes, Gore-Tex running shoes, you name it. They fit my feet incredibly well, they're super comfortable, and they come in all different types, including lots of cushion to none.
May 28 2014 3:06PM
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Do weightlifting shoes really make a difference?
May 28 2014 3:58PM
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.MASSHOLE.Do weightlifting shoes really make a difference?


Simplest answer, yes.
May 28 2014 4:06PM
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CirilloSimplest answer, yes.


Well let me get a little more in depth with my workouts

I primarily stick to squats, bench, DL, OHP and powercleans. I do not clean and jerk nor snatch. From my understanding they would help with squats and power cleans, but thats about it. Correct?
May 28 2014 4:13PM
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.MASSHOLE.Well let me get a little more in depth with my workouts

I primarily stick to squats, bench, DL, OHP and powercleans. I do not clean and jerk nor snatch. From my understanding they would help with squats and power cleans, but thats about it. Correct?


They would help with squats, cleans, snatches and pushpress/jerk most. Deadlift it's kind of up to the person. A lot of people like having their feet flat when they deadlift and wearing lifting shoes during deads actually increases your ROM slightly.

They're also much better at transferring force into the ground as you drive up since the heel is wood or hard plastic. If you watch people squat in running shoes as they start to drive upwards the squishy running shoe heel starts to give and compress.
May 28 2014 4:18PM
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.MASSHOLE.Do weightlifting shoes really make a difference?


http://www.dynamic-eleiko.com/sportivny/library/farticles015.html

http://www.liftbigeatbig.com/2012/07/you-need-olympic-weightlifting-shoes.html?m=1

http://www.crossfitinvictus.com/blog/benefits-of-olympic-lifting-shoes/
May 28 2014 5:16PM
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^ Thanks

I guess now I have to figure out if they are a worthwhile (financially) investment for myself considering I only do powercleans and squats which tend to see the most benefit out of those shoes.

On another note, anyone know some really good stretches for the lower back? It is the part of the lower back right above your butt/parallel to your hips. It seems to get painful when I sit for long periods of time, especially during my morning and afternoon commute.
May 29 2014 1:21PM
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Interesting read on CrossFit.

http://www.doyoueven.com/2014/05/article-dont-crossfit/
May 29 2014 2:38PM
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TheSeaCaptainInteresting read on CrossFit.

http://www.doyoueven.com/2014/05/article-dont-crossfit/


A few rebuttal's to that article.

https://medium.com/p/45e6c8057640

http://www.liftbigeatbig.com/2014/05/you-dont-like-crossfit-get-over-it.html

http://www.t-nation.com/training/crossfit-apology
May 29 2014 2:50PM
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Why I don't do CrossFit:

"I tried it, I liked most of it, but I found stuff I like more and works better for what I want to do."
- cobra_commander

can we stop posting liftbigeatbig links? Some of the articles are half decent, but the dude who owns it is a grade AAA douche nozzle, has only been doing strength work for a couple years, and has a revolving door of opinions and knowledge. However he is mediocre for that standard too, yet thinks he is the bees knees of strength knowledge because he has made several cross fitters stronger by removing the metcons from their programing, focusing on strength and adding carbs to their meals. Easy as pie, which is indecently, how he got to 285lbs without a 600lb deadlift, as a strongman.
May 29 2014 3:07PM
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.MASSHOLE.On another note, anyone know some really good stretches for the lower back? It is the part of the lower back right above your butt/parallel to your hips. It seems to get painful when I sit for long periods of time, especially during my morning and afternoon commute.


try sitting on the ground with your legs crossed or not, whichever is more comfortable for you. and sit up as straight as possible. imagine that your pelvis/hips are a mortar and your spine is a pestle. start out with small circles(similar to when you roll your head around to stretch your neck, just not floppy) at first and slowly try to make them bigger.. try not to move your pelvis at all, or pick your butt off the ground when you are leaning, and keep your back as straight as possible.

I have back problems and this was what the lady i was seeing about it told me to do. at first i couldnt even sit on the ground comfortably let alone do any kind of circular movement. but, over time, you should definitely notice an increased range of movement if you keep at it.
May 29 2014 3:13PM
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Yeah I definitely should have just left the article on my newsfeed and not brought it up. CrossFit pisses me off and people who love it are unwavering in their loyalty. The topic of CrossFit is completely politics.

I had a very similar experience as the author of the article I posted. Tried it twice at separate gyms (not fucking boxes), and was screamed at to lift more than was safe for me to handle and at speeds too high for most of the populous to maintain form.
May 29 2014 3:18PM
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TheSeaCaptainYeah I definitely should have just left the article on my newsfeed and not brought it up. CrossFit pisses me off and people who love it are unwavering in their loyalty. The topic of CrossFit is completely politics.

I had a very similar experience as the author of the article I posted. Tried it twice at separate gyms (not fucking boxes), and was screamed at to lift more than was safe for me to handle and at speeds too high for most of the populous to maintain form.


Even though I often post replies defending crossfit, I'm not a die-hard. It's what introduced me to Olympic weightlifting (which is my primary focus now) and I enjoy the workouts (when I do them).

That said, I have only had good experiences with gyms and coaches. I was introduced to crossfit in Saskatchewan. I forget exactly how many gyms there are, but 4-5 owners of gyms around the province have either a) lifted (and won) in national level weightlifting meets or b) coached athletes who have. As a result, I have experienced balanced programming with a huge emphasis on proper, safe technique and no one was ever pushed beyond their skill level/ability.

Like any workout program/methodology/sport/etc. some people like it and others don't. Do what works for you and leave it at that.

^^ Sure the eatbigliftbig guy is a douche nozzle, but let's be honest here, there is a solid population of douche nozzle's in the fitness/lifting/strength world (and even more so online).
May 29 2014 3:33PM
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saskskierEven though I often post replies defending crossfit, I'm not a die-hard. It's what introduced me to Olympic weightlifting (which is my primary focus now) and I enjoy the workouts (when I do them).

That said, I have only had good experiences with gyms and coaches. I was introduced to crossfit in Saskatchewan. I forget exactly how many gyms there are, but 4-5 owners of gyms around the province have either a) lifted (and won) in national level weightlifting meets or b) coached athletes who have. As a result, I have experienced balanced programming with a huge emphasis on proper, safe technique and no one was ever pushed beyond their skill level/ability.

Like any workout program/methodology/sport/etc. some people like it and others don't. Do what works for you and leave it at that.

^^ Sure the eatbigliftbig guy is a douche nozzle, but let's be honest here, there is a solid population of douche nozzle's in the fitness/lifting/strength world (and even more so online).


Word, homie.
May 29 2014 4:47PM
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Calb3rttry sitting on the ground with your legs crossed or not, whichever is more comfortable for you. and sit up as straight as possible. imagine that your pelvis/hips are a mortar and your spine is a pestle. start out with small circles(similar to when you roll your head around to stretch your neck, just not floppy) at first and slowly try to make them bigger.. try not to move your pelvis at all, or pick your butt off the ground when you are leaning, and keep your back as straight as possible.

I have back problems and this was what the lady i was seeing about it told me to do. at first i couldnt even sit on the ground comfortably let alone do any kind of circular movement. but, over time, you should definitely notice an increased range of movement if you keep at it.


Great post, Peep! I've been given this stretch, as well, and it's definitely helped with my back. I guess I didn't realize you had back problems, too. Miss you, crazy ass!

saskskierEven though I often post replies defending crossfit, I'm not a die-hard. It's what introduced me to Olympic weightlifting (which is my primary focus now) and I enjoy the workouts (when I do them).

That said, I have only had good experiences with gyms and coaches. I was introduced to crossfit in Saskatchewan. I forget exactly how many gyms there are, but 4-5 owners of gyms around the province have either a) lifted (and won) in national level weightlifting meets or b) coached athletes who have. As a result, I have experienced balanced programming with a huge emphasis on proper, safe technique and no one was ever pushed beyond their skill level/ability.

Like any workout program/methodology/sport/etc. some people like it and others don't. Do what works for you and leave it at that.

^^ Sure the eatbigliftbig guy is a douche nozzle, but let's be honest here, there is a solid population of douche nozzle's in the fitness/lifting/strength world (and even more so online).


Agreed, on all counts. I've done some CrossFit workouts and loved them! One of the gym owners/trainers up here is a good friend of my fiance, and he's been competing in lifting for many years. He's very good about having his athletes maintain proper form while performing exercises (which in a way seems silly to say considering things like kipping, or whatever it's called...). I'd like to get more into it, but I'm WAY too competitive and don't really want it to take over my life, you know? For now, I just stick to doing some of the workouts on my own at my regular gym (in addition to my regular lifting) instead of joining an actual CrossFit gym.

And yeah, there are definitely tons of people within every single branch of the fitness industry who have their heads up their asses. Oh well.
May 29 2014 6:33PM
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Awesome workout today
At level 14 on the elliptical 1:25 at 70 spm and :35 at 210 spm for 20 minutes
Don't know what ^that works out to in mph but I was going hard.
2x20 dips
2x20 incline bench
2x20 pec fly
2x20 crunches
2x20 curls
I jogged at 7mph for half a mile to close it out
May 29 2014 11:16PM
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ABallsAwesome workout today
At level 14 on the elliptical 1:25 at 70 spm and :35 at 210 spm for 20 minutes


SPM is the same as RPM, right? if so i am laughing so damn hard at the mental image of of you just going totally HAM on an elliptical hahaha. I mean i dont even think elipticals are made for that kind of torque haha. Do you only do your HIIT on that machine or do you kind switch it up everytime, whatever looks appealing- Bike, ERG, Treadmill etc?

Curiously has anyone used a Mountain Climber to do thier HIIT? I feel like that would crush you.
May 31 2014 1:19AM
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ABalls
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californiagrownSPM is the same as RPM, right? if so i am laughing so damn hard at the mental image of of you just going totally HAM on an elliptical hahaha. I mean i dont even think elipticals are made for that kind of torque haha. Do you only do your HIIT on that machine or do you kind switch it up everytime, whatever looks appealing- Bike, ERG, Treadmill etc?

Curiously has anyone used a Mountain Climber to do thier HIIT? I feel like that would crush you.


Pretty sure it's the same as rpm. I switch in between the treadmill and the elliptical but it's tough to try and run every time due to my shin pain. But ya I look pretty fucking stupid going hard on the elliptical.
May 31 2014 9:24AM
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How much do you guys pay a month for gym membership. I used to use my school gym and my gym at work, but I'm not at school and I have a different job. I havn't worked out in like three weeks and I feel shitty about it.
May 31 2014 2:02PM
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NotoriousT.S.EHow much do you guys pay a month for gym membership. I used to use my school gym and my gym at work, but I'm not at school and I have a different job. I havn't worked out in like three weeks and I feel shitty about it.


If there is a planet fitness around you, 20 bucks a month I think or 30. Just make sure they have free weight benches. I couldn't believe that some don't have normal benches and just a smith machine, fuck that.
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californiagrown
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NotoriousT.S.EHow much do you guys pay a month for gym membership. I used to use my school gym and my gym at work, but I'm not at school and I have a different job. I havn't worked out in like three weeks and I feel shitty about it.


Depends where you live. here in the bay area the only gyms near me that dont suck are $50+ per month. I pay $60 for access to all franchises in the area.

Nicer gyms are very, very expensive but you are largely paying for the lockerroom amentities and the exclusivity of the clientele at that point, which may or may not be worth it to you. Id suggest looking into YMCAs or JCCs around you to see if their gyms are decent. the YMCAs in our area are terribl;e, but there are a couple brand new JCCs with state of the art everything that are cheap as shit...just in very inconvinient places for myself.

If you can become friends with a membership counselor or chat them up, or better yet, fuck one of them you can get the friends and family discount which makes it a helluva lot cheaper.
May 31 2014 3:45PM
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*N_Wist*
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I tired a pre work out for the first time today. It was interesting, not sure if i like the tingly sensation.
May 31 2014 4:02PM
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Toasty.
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*N_Wist*I tired a pre work out for the first time today. It was interesting, not sure if i like the tingly sensation.


It's the best feeling
May 31 2014 4:24PM
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.MASSHOLE.
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Anyone ever experience a hand injury where the 5th metacarpal is extremely sore and it came after cleans?
Jun 1 2014 2:49PM
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juicedrummer11
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.MASSHOLE.Anyone ever experience a hand injury where the 5th metacarpal is extremely sore and it came after cleans?


i broke my 3rd metacarpal once but i wasn't lifting yet then. i feel like that would really hurt doing cleans though
Jun 2 2014 12:39AM
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.MASSHOLE.
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PROTEIN. Workouts are worthless more or less for gaining muscle mass without eating a caloric surplus with lots of protein.
Jun 2 2014 8:27AM
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ABalls
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Pre workout looks like it's so bad for your body.
Jun 2 2014 9:11AM
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californiagrown
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ABallsPre workout looks like it's so bad for your body.


how?
Jun 2 2014 10:05AM
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ABalls
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californiagrownhow?


It can just put a lot of unnecessary stress on some of your organs.
Jun 2 2014 11:04AM
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californiagrown
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ABallsIt can just put a lot of unnecessary stress on some of your organs.


what does? the caffeine? so you also think coffee is terrible for your body?
Jun 2 2014 11:41AM
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hey-dude-its-me
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californiagrownwhat does? the caffeine? so you also think coffee is terrible for your body?


this is like whats wrong with ppl arguing for the legalization of weed instead of saying 'its not that bad' they say 'its perfect'
Jun 2 2014 12:02PM
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ABalls
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californiagrownwhat does? the caffeine? so you also think coffee is terrible for your body?


Well I mean coffee isn't the best for you either but that's besides the point. I've just always been taught through sports that taking something that will increase your heart rate before an activity that will raise your heart rate anyways could be dangerous. When I go to the gym my heart pumps fast and personally I feel like a pre workout would make it a little unsafe. I probably shouldn't have hated on pre workout in here since I'm guessing most of you take it but that's just my two cents. Also, when I do hiit I'm almost redlining with my heart rate anyways, I don't need anything that would get it going faster.
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