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Are you going to have a demo at Schweitzer again this year? I need to get on some Kartel 106's in some pow so that I can regret my decision not to grab some even more
Chubz.With Black friday and the holiday season approaching..i wonder if ON3P has any discount codes they would be willing to give the loyal customers that are on this wonderful website supporting the sickest brand in skiing?! (;
Sorry if already mentioned, but where do you guys recommend mounting 191 Jeffrey 122's? Was planning on -1cm from true, which was were I mounted my last pow skis (189 Hellbents)...Any reason to consider going further back from center?
Jacob_145_21Are you planning Europe in near future? the most important question is: Is it possible to retail ON3P in europe while keep the same prize as on3p in USA, because of the high shipping costs and taxes?
We are certainly working on adding Europe, but it has been a slow process. As for price, we will see how it works out. Our cost of goods is way higher than most of the brands we compete with, so we have a lot less margin to work with before we start losing money on pairs we are selling. We are working to make the skis more accessible in Europe and Australia/NZ soon, but it takes time to get the relationships needed to make it work established. Definitely on our to do list for the next few years. We also have a ton of room to grow in N. America, too, so at least for the next season, our main focus is on adding shops in N. America. You will see our skis become more available in Europe soon though.
Chubz.With Black friday and the holiday season approaching..i wonder if ON3P has any discount codes they would be willing to give the loyal customers that are on this wonderful website supporting the sickest brand in skiing?! (;
Sorry, we aren't doing any Black Friday discounts this year. I just feel like Thanksgiving is for family, so that is why you didn't see us promoting deals or special skis or anything like that. I know people are into it, but just not really our thing.
cydwhitAre you going to have a demo at Schweitzer again this year? I need to get on some Kartel 106's in some pow so that I can regret my decision not to grab some even more
Yes, we will make it out to Schweitzer again sometime this spring with Sports Creel.
pbatemanSorry if already mentioned, but where do you guys recommend mounting 191 Jeffrey 122's? Was planning on -1cm from true, which was were I mounted my last pow skis (189 Hellbents)...Any reason to consider going further back from center?
Recommended on the 191cm is -4.5cm. You can go a bit further forward without much issue. Do remember the flex profile and sidecut are designed around that mount, so at dead center, or even -1, you are pretty far forward of where they are designed to be skied.
We think our mounts are really dialed for how the skis are meant to be skied, but some people just like really centered skis so if that is your preference, go for it. I would personally recommend something within 2cm of the recommended point, but you know how you like your skis to feel better than I do, so go with what feels right.
**This post was edited on Dec 2nd 2014 at 2:04:12pm
looking for a ski that is not going to go in the park at any time, strictly charging around all mountain. Im an advanced skiier, 5'10'' 150 lbs. mainly will be used at snowbird/alta in any condition including when it dumps. im looking between the kartel 106, jeff 114, and even the jeff 122. im a very indecisive person so any opinions would be great. thanks in advance
Big.Birdlooking for a ski that is not going to go in the park at any time, strictly charging around all mountain. Im an advanced skiier, 5'10'' 150 lbs. mainly will be used at snowbird/alta in any condition including when it dumps. im looking between the kartel 106, jeff 114, and even the jeff 122. im a very indecisive person so any opinions would be great. thanks in advance
As a do-it-all Snowbird ski, I would probably go with a 181cm Jeffrey 114. The Kartel 106 would be a great everyday ski there, if you had a powder ski to complement it. It does ok in powder, and you are pretty light, but the extra float of the 114 will be really nice when it dumps. Plus you don't need the park ability of the Kartel, so I would go wider.
The Jeffrey 122 would be a good powder day ski, but on hard days which you do get at snowbird/alta, I think you would appreciate the higher camber, thinner waist, and longer running length of the Jeffrey 114. Also, the snow is so light there you can get away with a thinner ski and still get good float, where if you were skiing in the PNW, the extra width of the JF 122 really helps keep you on top of all the manky snow we get.
If you were looking for a 2 ski quiver, I would go Kartel 106 & Jeffrey 122. But as a single do-it-all ski, I would go Jeffrey 114.
iggyskierAs a do-it-all Snowbird ski, I would probably go with a 181cm Jeffrey 114. The Kartel 106 would be a great everyday ski there, if you had a powder ski to complement it. It does ok in powder, and you are pretty light, but the extra float of the 114 will be really nice when it dumps. Plus you don't need the park ability of the Kartel, so I would go wider.
The Jeffrey 122 would be a good powder day ski, but on hard days which you do get at snowbird/alta, I think you would appreciate the higher camber, thinner waist, and longer running length of the Jeffrey 114. Also, the snow is so light there you can get away with a thinner ski and still get good float, where if you were skiing in the PNW, the extra width of the JF 122 really helps keep you on top of all the manky snow we get.
If you were looking for a 2 ski quiver, I would go Kartel 106 & Jeffrey 122. But as a single do-it-all ski, I would go Jeffrey 114.
Hope that helps.
couldn't have asked for a better response. thanks so much, really appreciated. As much as i wish i could cop the kartel 106 and the jeff 122, i dont think i can make my budget work with it. So im going to get the jeff 114. once again thanks for the response, it feels even that much better buying from a company when you can get great help within 5 minutes on newschoolers. much love to the squad in portland.
iggyskierYes, we will make it out to Schweitzer again sometime this spring with Sports Creel.
Recommended on the 191cm is -4.5cm. You can go a bit further forward without much issue. Do remember the flex profile and sidecut are designed around that mount, so at dead center, or even -1, you are pretty far forward of where they are designed to be skied.
We think our mounts are really dialed for how the skis are meant to be skied, but some people just like really centered skis so if that is your preference, go for it. I would personally recommend something within 2cm of the recommended point, but you know how you like your skis to feel better than I do, so go with what feels right.
**This post was edited on Dec 2nd 2014 at 2:04:12pm
Perfect, thanks. Will probably go -2.5 from true. I'm stoked on these skis, have been waiting to upgrade my pow setup to on3p since getting FRs for park a couple years ago.
pbatemanPerfect, thanks. Will probably go -2.5 from true. I'm stoked on these skis, have been waiting to upgrade my pow setup to on3p since getting FRs for park a couple years ago.
Hey IggySkier , I was the Andersson guy who emailed you a bit of information on France/Switzerland in regards to expanding to Europe. Not sure who I was exchanging emails with, bit if you have anymore questions on the skiing market surrounding the Alps feel free to ask if my past information/suggestions have been forgotten!
Really hope you guys make your way here soon. Much love
Im interested in some pow skis i'm 6,3 180 pounds 3 seasons ago i got 183cm bent chetlers and i have outgrown them i want something playful that i can butter with and also drop decent size drops with (
NippletronHey IggySkier , I was the Andersson guy who emailed you a bit of information on France/Switzerland in regards to expanding to Europe. Not sure who I was exchanging emails with, bit if you have anymore questions on the skiing market surrounding the Alps feel free to ask if my past information/suggestions have been forgotten!
Really hope you guys make your way here soon. Much love
Where do you live? I might hit you up next time I find my way out there.
YoungWookieeIm interested in some pow skis i'm 6,3 180 pounds 3 seasons ago i got 183cm bent chetlers and i have outgrown them i want something playful that i can butter with and also drop decent size drops with (
I would go 191cm Jeffrey 122 if you want to stay around that width. We have a lot of customers who go from the bent chetler to the Caylor or Jeffrey 122 looking for something similar in playfulness, but with more stability at speed and in variable snow.
Edit: Or 191cm Caylor if you can find it (I know a few dealers have last year's pairs still in stock). Both skis will work great for you.
**This post was edited on Dec 12th 2014 at 7:43:43pm
Finally going skiing today. Finally got my pass for Kicking Horse (which has been getting a ton of snow), and I'll finally be able to ski my Jeffrey 122s. I'm so excited, I barely slept last night.
rudagerFinally going skiing today. Finally got my pass for Kicking Horse (which has been getting a ton of snow), and I'll finally be able to ski my Jeffrey 122s. I'm so excited, I barely slept last night.
Past four days, I've been going hard on these skis, and I love them. It just somehow seems easier to boost and charge every and anything that is out there.
Not gonna lie, first run on them, I was pretty squirrelly, I had been on my Billy Goats for the last few season, it took a bit to get used to the more centred stance, and rockered tail.
but damn! Jeffreys kill it! Finally got on top of a pillow line I've been scoping for a few seasons at the Horse, and I slashed and stomped my way down it.
god damn I love them.
Taking them for their first tour tomorrow up at Bow Summit, looking forward to seeing how they are.
191 Reverse BG Tours were dialed for the snow conditions out there today. Blower pow with a 20" base with 5" slabs cracking on occasion. Being one of the few to get to ski 7th at Stevens was sweet, and the skis held up to the rocks under pillows, sticks and scrub alder. Sap on the bases will need attention tomorrow.
been skiing some 106s my local shop let me take out... hot damn. Those skis are so sick. Charge, slash, float they do it all. Super stable, but you can push the ski so easily and make it do anything you want. not too wide for the park either. Wish i could afford a pair, but i will be keeping them in mind in the future.
Don't feel like making a thread for this so I'll just ask it here.
I'm thinking about purchasing some 176 98 Kartels in the coming months and plan to mount some FKS 140's on them. I want to use them a bit for park and a bit for all mountain/the rare powder day but don't want to center mount them nor do a traditional mount in the name of swing weight. Anyone have any suggestions on where they should be placed?
Random maybe useful information
Weight-160Lbs
Height-5'8"
Loc- MN
My park skis are fine but I want a charger that can really perform all around the mountain/hill. Most would call my riding style rather aggressive. I try to find things on my tiny 300' hill that would normally be looked at by others and I try to make something of it.
RudyGarmisch191 Reverse BG Tours were dialed for the snow conditions out there today. Blower pow with a 20" base with 5" slabs cracking on occasion. Being one of the few to get to ski 7th at Stevens was sweet, and the skis held up to the rocks under pillows, sticks and scrub alder. Sap on the bases will need attention tomorrow.
First day on my 13/14 Jeffreys yesterday at Cannon, NH. So much fun! Snow was variable all day, but I could charge through everything with no worries. Looking forward to taking these things into some deep snow.
Are there any plans for a Demo-day at Alta again this season? I'd like to pick up a pair of billy goats or steeples, and would like to ride them prior to making a decision.
ThundaKillaFirst day on my 13/14 Jeffreys yesterday at Cannon, NH. So much fun! Snow was variable all day, but I could charge through everything with no worries. Looking forward to taking these things into some deep snow.
Hey that's my single ski quiver for Cannon I have been riding all week, righteous choice!
PudgeHey that's my single ski quiver for Cannon I have been riding all week, righteous choice!
Were you guys at Cannon today? I was skiing it this morning and the conditions were horrific. Boilerplate ice and harsh winds. Didn't see any ON3P's on the hill though.
MartianManWere you guys at Cannon today? I was skiing it this morning and the conditions were horrific. Boilerplate ice and harsh winds. Didn't see any ON3P's on the hill though.
Bypass wasn't bad, but we got a late start and left after about 2 hours. It's been that way all week, minus the wind. Check out the video A.P.F. just dropped, our friends went 64 mph down the sheet of ice that has been Avalanche
