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Ive narrowed down my choices to the two jeffreys. I went to a shop to look at the two. I like the amount of rocker and camber on the 122 but i dont think i will need the extra width. Should i get the 122 or 114?
steezburgereddieIve narrowed down my choices to the two jeffreys. I went to a shop to look at the two. I like the amount of rocker and camber on the 122 but i dont think i will need the extra width. Should i get the 122 or 114?
Hmmm. There's a couple questions here.
When you say you don't need the extra width, are you looking to keep weight down? Or are you skiing someplace where 122 is too much but 114 is just right?
When you talk about the rocker/camber profile differences, are you wanting the flat camber underneath on the 122, or just more float?
steezburgereddieIve narrowed down my choices to the two jeffreys. I went to a shop to look at the two. I like the amount of rocker and camber on the 122 but i dont think i will need the extra width. Should i get the 122 or 114?
Where are you skiing? Do you have an everyday ski?
Can some one help me decide about FR vs Kartels 98.. i am not very experienced in park(360s, flat rails, hit down rails only few times), but am quite good in pow. Of course, i want to progress more in park. I feel more comfortable on somewhat wider skis, but don't know if the weight of kartels will hold me back too much. I was riding line chronics and Opus, and feel much more comfortable on wider, rockered skis. Pls help
avocado.feel much more comfortable on wider, rockered skis.
Kartel 98. If you feel more comfortable on wider skis, you answered your own question. FR are a park ski, but it sounds like you need an all mountain ski that can also ski in the park - which is exactly what the Kartel excels at.
When you say you don't need the extra width, are you looking to keep weight down? Or are you skiing someplace where 122 is too much but 114 is just right?
When you talk about the rocker/camber profile differences, are you wanting the flat camber underneath on the 122, or just more float?
I do prefer flat underneath and im not too concerned about weight.
iggyskierWhere are you skiing? Do you have an everyday ski?
I only have a park ski because there is not alot of snow where im from. I recently moved so i will be skiing in banff.
My bad captain. I missed the discussion a few pages back.
It's recently come our attention that the website is wrong on the flat camber on the Jeffery 122. As reflected in the cad drawing just next to the label, there's 1mm of camber per ski. Which is pretty dang minimal. I was going off the website.
There's a lot of numbers and other factoids every year, so it's just going to happen. We'll fix that.
steezburgereddieI do prefer flat underneath and im not too concerned about weight.
I only have a park ski because there is not alot of snow where im from. I recently moved so i will be skiing in banff.
As I mentioned above, the Jeffery 122 actually has 1mm of camber per ski. Pretty negligible.
But here's my thought: if you haven't skied a bigger pow ski before, you'll certainly notice a difference in how they lean over in a turn. Camber in the middle adds both rebound and a little more bite to help the sidecut, so it can actually be really nice as opposed to a completely flat midsection.
Bottom line: go 114, because it's plenty for Banff and less weight. Perhaps you'll be impressed by how the camber helps.
LiteratureMy bad captain. I missed the discussion a few pages back.
It's recently come our attention that the website is wrong on the flat camber on the Jeffery 122. As reflected in the cad drawing just next to the label, there's 1mm of camber per ski. Which is pretty dang minimal. I was going off the website.
There's a lot of numbers and other factoids every year, so it's just going to happen. We'll fix that.
No worries, sir.
Just trying to make sure everyone's aware and gets the accurate information straight from the right source(s).
LiteratureAs I mentioned above, the Jeffery 122 actually has 1mm of camber per ski. Pretty negligible.
But here's my thought: if you haven't skied a bigger pow ski before, you'll certainly notice a difference in how they lean over in a turn. Camber in the middle adds both rebound and a little more bite to help the sidecut, so it can actually be really nice as opposed to a completely flat midsection.
Bottom line: go 114, because it's plenty for Banff and less weight. Perhaps you'll be impressed by how the camber helps.
So if the 122 has about 1mm of camber, does the 114 have more than 1mm considering it is said to have 1mm in the description?
J.D.So pretty. Cannot wait for Steeple 112 version.
I don't even know if I like the original better or the new one. They're both amazing.
For some reason I was thinking the OG was better until I was lining up those pictures to upload for Pudge. Now I'm certain I like the new version better.
I hadn't even realized the small changes on the bases other than the new style logo until after I posted the pictures.
i need some help picking. was going to order 114 jeffreys but have been holding out because i do not know if they are the right pick. right now i am between the 114 jeffrey still and the 112 wrenegade. i have some filthy's for the park days and i have bent chetlers for the deep pow days. basically i am looking for a west coast driver that i can use all over the mountain and if i get caught in some pow conditions but also bring back east for the crud and hardpack. i wouldn't be doing much park riding on these skis so thats why i was thinking the wrenegade over the jeffrey.
i know i have seen that but i mean how does there weight compare to other skis in feeling. just a raw number doesnt help me visualize how much they weigh i have atomic infamous so like how is there weight compared to them
steezy_dogei know i have seen that but i mean how does there weight compare to other skis in feeling. just a raw number doesnt help me visualize how much they weigh i have atomic infamous so like how is there weight compared to them
I'm looking for an all mountain ski that still performs well in the park. I want to ski 50% park and 50% glades and shit like Tuckerman Ravine. Could I center mount a Kartel 106 to be the best fit for my style of riding?
HeadyTopperI'm looking for an all mountain ski that still performs well in the park. I want to ski 50% park and 50% glades and shit like Tuckerman Ravine. Could I center mount a Kartel 106 to be the best fit for my style of riding?
i wouldnt center mount them if your planning on only doing 50% park
brotoMounting them even 4 cm back would not hindwe your ability to do those things...
My 10/11 jmos are mounted at 2.5 back and I skied 80% park on them. Never a problem.
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This my JMO's are like 2 back and still rip the park. But getting a 106 waist ski and mounting it center would be a little silly IMO, maybe get the kartel 98s then mount them center and they would be better for park. 106 is going to be a little much to spin rails and mounting 106 center would not be as fun on pow days and ripping the mountain
brotoMounting them even 4 cm back would not hindwe your ability to do those things...
My 10/11 jmos are mounted at 2.5 back and I skied 80% park on them. Never a problem.
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This my JMO's are like 2 back and still rip the park. But getting a 106 waist ski and mounting it center would be a little silly IMO, maybe get the kartel 98s then mount them center and they would be better for park. 106 is going to be a little much to spin rails and mounting 106 center would not be as fun on pow days and ripping the mountain
These. Really, you probably won't even notice the difference.
I'm 5'10 and 160 and Im wondering the 181 or 176 kartel 106? I was thinking 181 at first but now I'm wondering if that would be too long for rails and stuff
I'm in the market for a new ski and the kartel really caught my eye..it looks like the ideal ski for me! Now..im just wondering how soft they are? I want something i can play around on and butter all the time. I ski a lot of park but i like to play around all over the mountain, and i want a fat ski to do it! Im also moving out west next year and want a ski that can handle basically everything
I watched this video: https://www.newschoolers.com/membervideo/717041.0/THC-Surfing-on-the-Schwells-of-Schwindells?s=11717&t=6&o=8
And it really made me want to buy a pair of jmos/kartels so much more! Is the kartel 106 anything like the jmo in that vid?
