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Evolution vs Creationism debate

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ianj
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6kgvhG3AkI

Starts in about half an hour. Should be interesting to hear.
Feb 4 2014 6:24PM
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milk_man
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Oh no that's not at all what I was talking about. I mean connections that you wouldn't understand unless you really thought about it
Feb 5 2014 1:33PM
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cheaaaaaa
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The quote above is a really good point. Its the foundation of how understanding in science develops. First you theorize (lowercase t!!!) and then form testable hypothesis to evaluate that theory. both aspects have palce and are reliant on each other, yet it is only the later that one should rely on with some degree of confidence.

Hey bud, I can guess you are a freshmen in college and are really interested in theoretical sciences, theology, and philosophy on top of your normal major. Its interesting stuff with so much depth. I love to talk about it.

However I'm not going to entertain these ungrounded arguments on things like 'waking up from being awake'. Also do some reading on developmental biology if your interested in how conscious in a given person is thought to come to be. We don't know everything, but at this point in time were off to a hell of a start.

sry, but I'm done arguing with you
Feb 5 2014 1:39PM
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Schmaelzle
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Lols. Hit me up when you feel like putting some effort in to your education, I can tell you've completed some courses and assume that that gives you license to talk about shit you don't yet understand.


>First you theorize (lowercase t!!!) and then form testable hypothesis to evaluate that theory.

You've got that one backwards, mate. You have to first observe a phenomena, hypothesize and test it's characteristics, then extrapolate your findings to similar phenomena. Theories are extrapolation specifically on things that cannot be (easily) observed. Usually in an effort to figure out a way to observe or otherwise provide for expected phenomena - to provide a framework for observed and expected phenomena. But you cannot start with extrapolation.

It's much easier to adapt your hypothesis than it is the framework under which it was constructed.

I can tell you aren't quite able to grasp complex and abstract concepts beyond A>B yet and that's fine. But don't patronize someone because you aren't able to understand what they're saying. Ask for clarification so that the argument can be made more clear or more simple for you.

 >Also do some reading on developmental biology if your interested in how conscious in a given person is thought to come to be. We don't know everything

We don't know jack shit about consciousness.




Feb 5 2014 2:17PM
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ThaLorax
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And I was talking about how you're response makes you look like a tard because you didn't' watch the video.
Feb 5 2014 7:46PM
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act.resist
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The butt hurt is real folks

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/05/the-bill-nye-ken-ham-debate-was-a-nightmare-for-science.html
(Cant clicky cuz on mobile)
Feb 6 2014 9:44PM
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erikK
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About the author:

"Michael Schulson is a freelance writer based in Durham, North Carolina. He holds a B.A. in Religious Studies from Yale."

AKA he's a loser
Feb 6 2014 9:55PM
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AT-AT
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They're called theories because they cannot be proved. The argument of if there is a god or not is fruitless, because one can neither prove or disprove the existence of a god. How far one wants to believe in either is up to the believer, but let it be known that no matter what your view is it is not fact.

i posted this in the other thread, but its relevant.
Feb 6 2014 10:11PM
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cheaaaaaa
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory

nah b
Feb 6 2014 10:16PM
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AT-AT
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^ "Theory is a system of ideas intended to explain something,"


Feb 6 2014 10:21PM
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cheaaaaaa
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that quote does not speak to validity or capacity to be proved now does it
Feb 6 2014 10:27PM
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cheaaaaaa
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Theory is a system of ideas intended to explain something, such as a single or collection of fact(s), event(s), or phenomen(a)(on).
Feb 6 2014 10:29PM
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deleted5
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You clearly know nothing about the scientific method.
Feb 6 2014 11:56PM
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AT-AT
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Those arent my words, they are the first sentence off of wikipedia for theory, hence the " " 's
Feb 7 2014 7:56AM
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cheaaaaaa
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no you sleazy shit, you didn't even include the whole sentence because the later half didn't help your shit argument.
Feb 7 2014 11:39AM
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deleted5
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"A theory is not the same as a hypothesis. A theory provides an explanatory framework for some observation, and from the assumptions of the explanation follows a number of possible hypotheses that can be tested in order to provide support for, or challenge, the theory."
Feb 7 2014 12:21PM
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theabortionator
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http://deadstate.org/buzzfeeds-22-messages-from-creationists-gets-translated-by-science-lovers-and-the-results-are-hilarious/

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LOL
Feb 20 2014 6:13PM
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theBearJew
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laughed so hard at some of those.
Feb 20 2014 6:18PM
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howlongcanausern
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ahh, yes, riduculing those with a different opinion on the internet

aka 'the scientific method'
Feb 20 2014 6:22PM
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Aidan-G
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They're both wrong. A giant turtle created the earth
Feb 20 2014 6:30PM
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theabortionator
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Did you read the two I posted? If you're defending that than lol.


I hit a button on the internet and then other people see my post. How can you explain that if there's no god?
Feb 20 2014 6:33PM
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Aidan-G
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I have very limited knowledge of what that is
Feb 20 2014 6:42PM
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Aidan-G
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I was definitely talking about Hinduism
Feb 21 2014 10:19PM
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Aidan-G
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That's Avatar
Feb 21 2014 10:22PM
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