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A True American Hero, Eric Snowdon

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qazwsxedc34
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Since this video has been blocked by western media, I will post here. Is he a traitor or a hero?


Jan 29 2014 7:22PM
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qazwsxedc34
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Not to be mistaken with edward snowdon.
Jan 29 2014 7:23PM
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qazwsxedc34
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Edwric
Jan 29 2014 7:24PM
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JORMUNGAND
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you spelled "Snowden" wrong
Jan 29 2014 7:25PM
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Halo1junkie
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I think the public should know how sneaky our gov is. I dont know if id call him a hero but im glad he did what he did
Jan 29 2014 7:36PM
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Dr.Dealgood
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Snowden was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize... no joke:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/29/world/europe/norway-snowden-nobel-nomination/
Jan 29 2014 7:38PM
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qazwsxedc34
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So was hen rick kisshner and obama
Jan 29 2014 7:50PM
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Kimmler
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The Nobel Peace Prize itself is a huge fucking joke.
Jan 29 2014 8:01PM
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Wallisch_pl
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God damn it. I have to rewrite the whole thing fuck.

Edward Snowden is not a hero, he is a fucking retard.

Not only did he violate his contract with the NSA (you have got to be fucking stupid to do so), he also released information that was already known! Whether you knew that the government was spying on you or not, everyone already knew, and Edward just put a spotlight on it. He made the Government mad, and will never be on US soil again, unless it's in a casket or behind bars.

If you honestly think that you need to be afraid that the government has access to your "personal" shit, then you really need to learn more about the purpose on the NSA. There are computer codes set up for phones/internet/etc. Basically all they do is store them in a gargantuan data base, and have a level of importance from 1-10. 1 being that the file has no keywords detected, and 10 having several keywords detected. When I say "keywords" I mean that they have a huge list of words that may infer a threat. All of your personal shit will 100% likely never ever be viewed, unless of course you are planning to kill someone. The NSA keeps records for many reasons, they can predict or catch an attack before it happens, or catch the attackers after the attack.

I get frustrated with people that are all "yo obama is listnin 2 my call bro, anarky!!!11!1!", because they do all they do to keep this nation safe!
Jan 29 2014 8:09PM
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icculus.
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its it really that surprising that they were doing this..
Jan 29 2014 8:10PM
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Petey.
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You might as well have written "I am a fucking retard" instead of wasting all of that time writing what you just did.
Jan 29 2014 8:14PM
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Wallisch_pl
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>calls someone out
>doesn't even give a reason why
>because he can't think of one
Jan 29 2014 8:18PM
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Petey.
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The fact that you think all he did was tell people what they already know is fucking stupid.

You think he would give up his job, piss off all of the nerds at the NSA and put himself into the situation he did just to say "hey, guys, the Government is spying on us!"?

He released numerous classified documents to various media outlets. Do you think all of us already know what was in those classified documents?

Jan 29 2014 8:23PM
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Halo1junkie
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Shots fired
Jan 29 2014 8:24PM
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Dr.Dealgood
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I mean if you want to talk about unsubstantiated generalizations you might as well start with that gleaming example you just excreted.
Jan 29 2014 8:24PM
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theabortionator
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The nobel peace prize is a fucking joke. I mean Henry Kissinger got one. I mean a PEACE prize? Are you fucking kidding me? And Al gore got one and that dude is worthless.

And so many awesome deserving people that never got one verses some of the clowns that did. It has 0 credibility
Jan 29 2014 8:28PM
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turducken
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Yes. Lets look at all the attacks that have been stopped. Oh wait, all evidence suggests that NSA mass surveillance hasn't stopped anyhting....

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-01-13/nsa-data-has-no-discernible-impact-on-terrorism-report.html

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/1/13/review-finds-nsametadatacollectionhasntstoppedanattack.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/nsa-phone-record-collection-does-little-to-prevent-terrorist-attacks-group-says/2014/01/12/8aa860aa-77dd-11e3-8963-b4b654bcc9b2_story.html
Jan 29 2014 8:29PM
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milk_man
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That's why sometimes when I text people, I throw in a "Obama bomb al qaeda" at the end of it



Jan 29 2014 8:29PM
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Wallisch_pl
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You people didn't know because you only give a shit about something if everyone is talking about it. Also the fact that you have got to be so fucking retarded to release that information to the public, he did it because he wanted to look like a hero, which people are retarded enough to think he is one
Jan 29 2014 8:30PM
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Kimmler
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exactly.
Jan 29 2014 8:31PM
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theabortionator
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TOLLOLLOLLO

Or just stupid.
Jan 29 2014 8:31PM
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corona
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sources please
Jan 29 2014 8:32PM
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Dr.Dealgood
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Just to clarify, I don't think the prize is:

A) Valid
B) Accurate
C) Meaningful

I just found his nomination to be:

A) Amusing
B) Amusing
C) Amusing
Jan 29 2014 8:33PM
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Petey.
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LOL. WHAT.

I am so glad that you are familiar with the innermost workings of our Government. He's a retard because he went through with something that you would never, in your life, have the balls to carry out.

Go back to the flock you fucking sheep.
Jan 29 2014 8:33PM
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Wallisch_pl
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I'm honestly just confused as to why you guys give a shit? Why aren't you guys more concerned with US internet becoming more like China?
Jan 29 2014 8:34PM
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Dr.Dealgood
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On the topic of NSA, this talk is hugely interesting and does a great job creating a picture of NSA spy techniques and capabilities.

Don't let the title mislead you, it's presented by respected tech journalist and programmer Jacob Appelbaum.

http://io9.com/need-more-reasons-to-feel-paranoid-about-the-nsa-watch-1495875117?utm_campaign=socialflow_io9_facebook&utm_source=io9_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

Also, this is an interesting debate, not nearly as in depth, but a relatively good debate. Much more shallow than the previous link.

http://intelligencesquaredus.org/debates/past-debates/item/987-spy-on-me-id-rather-be-safe
Jan 29 2014 8:37PM
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theabortionator
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The one point that wallisch made while trolling that is valid, is that it's kind of ridiculous that nobody was talking about any of that shit before. Some of the stuff should have been common knowledge but people are herp derping oblivious.Thank god these same people are able to legally vote.

Years after it should have been news it was suddenly news that the NSA was fucking sketchy/worthless. You'd have to hit some people in the face with a brick for them ever to notice anything.

Oh well. Time to chug some whiskey and pass out naked in an alley. Goodbye cruel world.
Jan 29 2014 8:37PM
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corona
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He's pretty much a world wide hero.

Yes, the rest of the world wants to know that the US and Canada and UK are phone tapping their leaders' personal cell phones (like Merkel). Yes, the rest of the world wants to know government agencies are illegally spying on the behalf of private enterprise (like Canada spying on Brazilian government to help Canadian mining companies). Yes, I want to know my calls and texts are being recorded and scanned by the United States government when I'm not even a citizen.

Essentially he's showed the rest of the world how much of a cock the US government is.

Thank you Snowden.

Fuck you America. You can suck a pussy bleeding chode.
Jan 29 2014 8:38PM
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Wallisch_pl
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You honestly are too stupid to insult. I would never carry something out like that, for so many reasons. not enough balls? sure. and you probably don't have the balls to do a triple back flip.
Jan 29 2014 8:39PM
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Dr.Dealgood
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I really don't think you understand the gravity of what the NSA is doing, the mind-bending reach they have, and the decided lack of transparency surrounding their activities. Or maybe the fact that the director of the NSA openly committed perjury when asked by a senate committee if they were collecting information in any way on American citizens.

I would kindly ask that you watch the link I posted above, the talk given by Jacob Appelbaum. It'll take an hour of your time, that's it.
Jan 29 2014 8:43PM
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Petey.
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Reasons you wouldn't do that:

>You're not intelligent enough to acquire a job in that kind of field
>Scared
>Sheep
>Sheep
>Sheep
>Scared

Reasons I wouldn't do a triple backflip:

>I know I can't do a triple backflip
Jan 29 2014 8:44PM
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Halo1junkie
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This thread went south fast
Jan 29 2014 8:50PM
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Spagett+
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Snowden is such a fucking idiot. You keep talking about "intelligence," please, look up edward snowden's biography. 90% of the people on this site are smart than him, if not more. Really the terrible part of this entire thing is that some bs sensationalized news story is the only thing that can get people interested in the Us government. And you could find like 80% of what snowden "uncovered" before the leak. The laws and Acts were all open to the public.
Jan 29 2014 8:56PM
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Petey.
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Yeah I heard the CIA only hires idiots.
Jan 29 2014 8:58PM
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Halo1junkie
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One of my tool college friends wanted to join so he could be a "counterterrorist"
Jan 29 2014 9:00PM
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Spagett+
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http://www.biography.com/people/edward-snowden-21262897


read this.
Jan 29 2014 9:01PM
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SFB
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you're not one of them.
Jan 29 2014 9:05PM
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Anathema
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i will reserve judgement, but one thing's for sure i find this all very.... enlightening
Jan 29 2014 9:13PM
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qazwsxedc34
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"Whether you knew that the government was spying on you or not, everyone already knew.”

What?
Jan 29 2014 9:18PM
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Bogs
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I'm going to get flamed for this, but...I really don't care if the government is capable of listening to my phone calls/looking at my texts/looking at my internet or whatever else they're capable of doing. Why? Because there's no chance in hell they're actually looking at anything I do. I'm just not important enough, and the NSA is way too busy to look at my, or anyone else's personal information. Anyone who is legitimately worried about the government listening to their phone calls simply has an ego problem to assume that anyone cares enough about their existence to do so.

I suppose there is the argument that this happened in Nazi Germany and slowly increasing his control over communications is how Hitler brainwashed so many people, and the government is going to keep doing more and more stuff like this, but since that already happened, I'm sure somebody would realize it before it went too far.
Jan 29 2014 9:39PM
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corona
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Obama
Whitehouse
Bomb
Terrorism
Sarah Palin
9/11
Hijack
Bin Laden



see?? no one listeni...
Jan 29 2014 9:43PM
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corona
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whether you agree with it or not what he did takes bigger balls than anybody here has
Jan 29 2014 9:45PM
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T.M.O.N.E.Y
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Jan 29 2014 9:49PM
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.MASSHOLE.
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If you guys honestly believe that other countries are not doing the same thing, you are way too naive. Until this all oversteps other boundaries and results in people disappearing, I couldnt care less.
Jan 29 2014 9:49PM
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Spagett+
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Oh yeah bub? Pink floyd knowledge challenge now!!!
Jan 29 2014 9:58PM
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qazwsxedc34
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Keep shitting on the 4th amendment.

I’m positive Exxon collaborated with the NSA to collect data that served the corporate interest. Don’t think it isn’t going full blown corporate haywire.

The right to due process? Innocent to proven guilty? “if I have nothing to hide than who cares,"

You are essentially rejecting the idea that people in a court of law must be proven guilty. "we are guilty until proven innocent.” This seems to be what most people believe.

If everyone’s every action were being recorded, and people will violate some dumb law at any given time, then punishment becomes purely selective. This is where we are heading. We let our freedoms crumble because of a false perception of security, in the name of protection from this so called terror. In fact, all of this could lead to a greater encroachment on our liberties in the future.

Will future administrations refrain from detaining or killing citizens of the U.S who speak out against the powers that be. Snowden would of surely been thrown in jail as far as one knows avoiding the mechanisms of the judicial process. Snowden has stated, “that the US secret service was trying to kill him."






















It is uncertain that incoming



The NSA has been sharing raw intelligence with Israel, this includes American’s data.
Jan 29 2014 10:01PM
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qazwsxedc34
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Henry Kissenger is awesome, Although he is a war criminal and cannot step foot in many different countries he is still good guy deep down.

Kissenger took a dump on those East Timor commi’s

Look at this fat fuck!

Jan 29 2014 10:07PM
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qazwsxedc34
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Government shill sock-puupet! On government pay-role. Tries to divert our attention.
Jan 29 2014 10:11PM
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Halo1junkie
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Youd be surprised. I bet they got someone that snoops on ns every once in a while
Jan 29 2014 10:16PM
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SFB
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jk ur smert
Jan 29 2014 10:28PM
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CJ_S
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Well that's not really saying much since over 100, I think it might be 118, are nominated for the award.
Jan 29 2014 10:30PM
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