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Nose Butter Doubles and Triples

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skiingsteve
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Xgames big air the last two years have been dominated by Henrik Harlaut with his nose and tail butter doubles and triples.I dont know if im the only one, but i dont think the nose and tail butter doubles and triples look nearly as cool as like a regular double with a crazy grab (vincent gagnier). I feel like since he is the only one that does them, the judges reward him a whole lot. Maybe they think buttering adds alot style wise,but i dont. Any thoughts?
Jan 28 2014 8:06PM
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Miomo
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Gagnier took second and Henrik took first. They're pretty much on even ground. What I really wanna see is a Genie with a butter.
Jan 28 2014 8:09PM
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skiingsteve
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I just dont like how much the judges reward the butters.
Jan 28 2014 8:12PM
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trill
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have you ever tried a nose butter into cork spin? pretty difficult, do it into a double. even harder, way harder than a normal double, maybe thats why its dominated by henrik? he is the only one that can do these tricks well and consistently? take it to triple, straight insane. You might not think it looks cooler but thats just like your opinion man, can't argue with how technically difficult it is.
Jan 28 2014 8:13PM
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Gr0mo
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I kind of agree.

While Henrik is one of the most bad ass skiers in history i think some of his butter are just quick 1's before the lip. A few times at X games I saw him apply some real pressure to the tips (or tails) but most of the time it seemed pretty mellow.
Jan 28 2014 9:15PM
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heitsy
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Haha. This opinion is not going to be a popular one...
Jan 28 2014 10:01PM
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b-kul
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butters on big jumps are risky. henrik is the only one risking it so he gets the reward.
Jan 28 2014 10:11PM
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Glone
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I agree. They are difficult, creative, progressive and stylish which is exactly what the judges want to see.
Jan 28 2014 10:13PM
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lurking
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i honestly think the judges over reward butters, and would have rather seen gagnier win since his style was insane (not to say henrik's wasn't good). A dub 14 screamen seamen while holding the grab until you land basically in my opinion is more stylish than a nose butter tripple
Jan 28 2014 10:46PM
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myllhouse
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he's got the power of dreadlocks
Jan 28 2014 10:50PM
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nicolaise21
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Trollin'
Jan 29 2014 1:06AM
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Bateman
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Well it's a step-up from the double cork, which is the standard go-to trick you have to do to even qualify for a tournament.

Except for B-dog.
Jan 29 2014 1:51AM
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BlakeLively
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This thread is wack. If you were to say the same thing last year, when Henrik did his first nosebutter trip, you would've gotten ripped a new asshole by every member of NS

Now that he's thrown the trick once, all of the sudden it's not as cool as a dub with an innovative grab? Cmon people lets have some perspective.
Jan 29 2014 3:02AM
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SkiFreshPow
Posts: 233 - Karma: 335
The judges are finally giving points for style, I'm not going to complain.
Jan 29 2014 3:23AM
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prettygood
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Mike Douglas, is that you?
Jan 29 2014 5:55AM
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caderobinson
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OP has never corked nor nose buttered before
Jan 29 2014 7:26AM
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CashmereCat
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I wouldn't call them progressive anymore. Henrik's been doing them for a couple years now. No hate to dollo, but in my opinion they are over scored
Jan 29 2014 7:44AM
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twatt_chaurus
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maybe not progressive, but still hard
Jan 29 2014 7:50AM
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pastysmasher
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I've kinda been thinking something similar. Don't get me wrong, I love watching Henrik's Butters and think that he deserved the win, but is it going to get to the point where you've got to butter on every jump to win comps? I hope not.
Jan 29 2014 8:07AM
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I_liketobutter
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Do u kids realize how hard buttering off a lip at 50mph is?
Jan 29 2014 8:17AM
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Chubz.
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Butters are now triples? What the fuck?
Jan 29 2014 8:29AM
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.Rybak.
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Judges are rewarding difficulty just like they gave high scores for triples the past couple of years.
Jan 29 2014 8:39AM
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270on420out
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Butter corks are just a fancy way of saying "spin a 180 before you leave the ground"
Jan 29 2014 9:25AM
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trill
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and that "spin a 180 before you leave the ground" is fucking crazy. Lets see you butter a 180 on the lip of a 60+ foot jump into a triple. oh wait you cant… have you ever tried buttering off a jump. Its fucking hard!!!
Jan 29 2014 9:38AM
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Glone
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I would disagree a little bit. Yes, Henrik has been doing them a while, but no one else has. Hatviet is the only one that has done one (that I have seen, I could be wrong) and it was this year. They aren't progressive to him anymore, but the nose butter double is way progressive to the rest of the comp scene.
Jan 29 2014 9:54AM
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270on420out
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It's not that hard to go from a butter 180 into a rotation. It sets the rotation early and calibrates the spin. Physics you see. Vinny's trick was 10x harder than any trick thrown that night.
Jan 29 2014 9:55AM
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skodeo7
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Not trying to downplay the progressive-ness but theres definitely others that have done them. I'm pretty sure C Van, Andreas, Bobby, Goepper, Parker, Luca T and probably a half dozen europeans we've never heard of have all done them. I think Russ may have even tried one on the last jump at X but it was tough to tell with the camera angle.
Jan 29 2014 10:05AM
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notorious_candy
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Op be like: If I can do a nosebutter 5 over the edge of a landing at my park, a nosebutter double on a 100ft jump can't be that hard...
Jan 29 2014 10:13AM
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broto
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all i have to say is that if butter are so easy, why is henrik the only one doing them STILL a whole year after all of the competitors saw how highly they got scored? surely if they were THAT easy one of them would have tried to master the butter double or triple for a nearly guaranteed podium???

oh wait henrik is still the only one doing them

your argument is now flawed
Jan 29 2014 11:17AM
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Alp1ne
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If you watch the video of tanner hall talking to Henrik before the triple last year he bassicly says "its 180 to switch triple 14"
Jan 29 2014 11:32AM
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CashmereCat
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As previously stated, there are others that can do them. No one else can do what Vinny did.
Jan 29 2014 11:35AM
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broto
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no one has done a sw dub or a triple. it has been over a year since henrik did his first butter dub so it's only fair to give that amount of time to vinny's trick as well then.
Jan 29 2014 11:42AM
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trill
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Then why rant more people doing it? they know it gets judged higher, more people would be doing it if it is as easy as you say,,,
Jan 29 2014 11:51AM
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270on420out
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Tons of pros do them. Henrik just does them the most. But name one person who can do the same trick vinny ca$h was doing
Jan 29 2014 12:19PM
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broto
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if my memory serves me correectly, henny's second best score was below vinny's best, which makes sense. a butter dub should score less than the genie dub flat 12.

however no one is doing a nose butter trip which is what henny won on basically. it's not a matter of nose butter dub vs. vinny's trick, it's a matter of nose butter triple vs. henny's trick.

and personally speaking, i can not attest to the more difficult one. and neither can you.
Jan 29 2014 1:16PM
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CashmereCat
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Can we all agree the sw triple 12 from ABM was underscored?
Jan 29 2014 1:24PM
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manero
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Abm switch triple cork with legs spread those ugly
Jan 29 2014 2:06PM
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CashmereCat
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Henriks triple was ugly too, he didn't get a grab either. ABMs triple was just about as difficult.
Jan 29 2014 4:22PM
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Ribss.
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The big air jump at X is closer to 100 feet.
Jan 29 2014 4:49PM
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busterburns
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Thank you, I feel like half the people on this sight judge everything by appearance. Have you even ever tried a butter cork before? Its fucking hard
Jan 29 2014 4:53PM
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Chubz.
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Buttering off a jump itself is sketch as fuck. If you catch your edge you are fucked. Like there's no coming back from that.
Jan 29 2014 6:29PM
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broto
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could you imagine this off the x-games jump?
Jan 29 2014 6:38PM
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JakeBarrett
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This.
Here I have an assignment for anyone who is saying 'oh the nose butter dub shouldnt be that hard' go try a butter cork off of even a 20 footer. Those fuckers are difficult.
Jan 29 2014 6:50PM
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Alex_G
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you probably don't like the way judges reward nose butters...because you've probably never tried one. shits hard dude
Jan 29 2014 6:54PM
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Karkoskier
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Have ever tried to butter off a large jump? It's pretty fucking sketchy, you need to be pretty goddamn confident in yourself to do that especially with doubles, and triples are just fucked. I can't even fathom doing a switch butter. He deserved to win. Vinne's  tricks were incredible too but there's no doubt Henrik earned that.
Jan 29 2014 8:29PM
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