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Dalbello vs Full Tilt. Which you suggest?

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RicDeLorenzi
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Ehy guys! I know there is so much threads like this, but I have to make an important decision. My local shop told me that I have to decide soon as possible which boot I want next season. So, I have a pair of Dalbello Krypton Rampage and I think they're a little bit too heavy and I often feel shin bangs, in fact if I choose Dalbello I'm thinking about Il Moro T... I don't know eveything about Full Tilts boots, never tried them, just looked the new collection on catalogues... What do you think? Do you prefer Dalbello of Full Tilts? Which Full Tilt boots do you suggest to me?
Jan 14 2014 3:41PM
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Sparta
Posts: 226 - Karma: 313
Buy what fits and only what fits. Put down the catalog and go get fitted by a boot-fitter. Done.
Jan 14 2014 3:45PM
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ECSkiier
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This. Make sure the boot fits. Don't get FT's just because you think they'll make you look "cool". You are going to have a terrible time with boots that don't fit
Jan 14 2014 3:56PM
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WAVES
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I agree with both of the posts before me but being an owner of full tilts i would seriously reccomend getting a pair! no shin bang all afterbang is NOT a lie. hands down best boots!
Jan 14 2014 5:08PM
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raymondcabral
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I got Dalbello voodoo's this year and they're great. My friend has the same pair that he's been using for four years. Highly recommended
Jan 14 2014 5:58PM
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KingTaco
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used to have the rampage now i have the il moro and i can say with almost certainty youd get more shinbang with the il moro. get newer rampage ids

i havent ridden any full tilt boots but the booters and theyre limp piece of shit park boots but imo dalbello is superior quality
Jan 14 2014 6:02PM
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Steezyshred
Posts: 228 - Karma: 69
I had a pair of fulltilts once... practically paid a kid to take em off my hands and I will never look at fulltilt again. But like said previously... boot fitter will make your life soooo much better
Jan 14 2014 9:48PM
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Substitute
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I have full tilts but go to your shop/boot fitter and try some on.
Jan 14 2014 9:52PM
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srg_bchkv
Posts: 200 - Karma: 170
Rampage and Il Moro T is the same boot, Il Moro is just a little lighter, stiffer and has a different upper buckle which doesn't work very well imo. If the Rampages don't fit you, it makes no sense getting the Il Moro's. You may want to get fitted.
Jan 15 2014 1:06AM
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b-kul
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its all about the fit. i could wear my rampages all day. i could be wrong but i think il moros/ rampages/ ft's are based around the same design. as long as you have a good fit i dont think you can go wrong with either brand.
Jan 15 2014 11:43AM
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Cotter
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I have the KR Rampage IDs and I fucking love them. Also dalbello has higher quality boots
Jan 15 2014 2:07PM
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Park.
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WELL since nobody is telling you why you are getting shinbang, It is almost always bad form if the boot fits, if it doesnt than the boot is too big and you are sliding around, and to whoever the fuck said you get more shinbang in Il Moro's is using a boot thats too much for them is what it sounds like
Jan 15 2014 4:41PM
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kung_powpow
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Full tilts, so comfy when they fit
Jan 15 2014 5:29PM
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SamtheEagle
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I got some dalbello lupo sp id boots this year and enjoy them. Get what fits and what a good bootfitter suggests
Jan 15 2014 6:31PM
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Beemo
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I just got a pair of voodoos this year love them! Adding a booster strap made a world of difference too
Jan 16 2014 9:09AM
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Turd.Ferguson
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dalbello boss is soft as hell for me it works fine and i ski 80% park 10% not park
Jan 17 2014 2:51AM
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Sparta
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And apparently 10% math
Jan 17 2014 10:08AM
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cobra_commander
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I'd have to get hit over the head to consider buying full tilts. I'd rather ski in a pair of rear entry boots than those worthless abominations of plastic and stupidity.

Kryptons are slightly less stupid.

Dalbello also makes many other models than kryptons. All of which fit and ski differently. Fuck it, you should get some scorpion 130s.
Jan 17 2014 11:32AM
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Dr.Dickless
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The feature that "eliminates shinbang" in full tilts, (three piece shell with a wrap liner) is available in all the boots you have mentioned...
Jan 17 2014 12:08PM
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NikOtiN
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I think you landed jumps backseat, it is really reason of your shin bang.
Jan 17 2014 4:50PM
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ColinBa2
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i had a pair of the dalbello voodoos for not even 2 years and i cracked them
so then i bought a pair of Full Tilt Twalls and they are a way better boot
voodoos are stiff on most days and a little soft on some. but the Tilts have a consistent flex to them and the cuff is not bolted to the main shell of the boot, like dalbello does.
SO GO FOR FULL TILTS
they are worth the money and the intution liner is a big selling point for the boot






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Jan 18 2014 12:10PM
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srg_bchkv
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Do you have narrow or wide feet?
Jan 18 2014 12:33PM
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sweendog
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both have Intuition liner and Dalbello's have more room in them but I think Full Tilts are comfier and they feel like shoes to me now
Jan 19 2014 5:39PM
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bdowning
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I died.
Feb 7 2014 9:51AM
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last_tango
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To me full tilt classics and krypton rampages fit similar to each other but the krypton has a more anatomicly correct toe instead of that boxy toe the full tilts have.
Feb 7 2014 10:07AM
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ABalls
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Full tilt is either a hit or miss for most people... Personally I despised my full tilts and will never buy another pair but that's just me. Go to a boot fitter and get something that will be comfortable.
Feb 7 2014 10:33AM
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Wompuscat
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I got a pair of Full Tilt Sethmo's a couple years ago, and they've been an absolutely amazing boot. However, buckles break pretty easy, even the aluminum ones. The most comfortable, best working boot I've had. Keep in mind I got fit for these, and I didn't go into a store demanding FT's, they just happened to fit my foot the best. I love my Tilt's, but it threw a wrench in my ski trip when I blew a buckle this year, and could find nowhere to replace it until I started heading back. Ended up having to rent boots for a few days, and rentals are just shit. Couldn't ski near as hard. Anywho, so I just ended up getting a pair of last years Dalbello Il Moro T's, black with the Dalbello writing, for under 200 bucks. They should be in either today or tomorrow, but it'll be interesting to see the comparison in fit. I'll let you know what I think, but from what I've heard build quality of Dalbello's is typically better than Full Tilt's, but I've got no personal experience with that yet.
Feb 7 2014 4:26PM
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*Henrik_Harlaut
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Full tilts. In theory the more people who buy, the more the company will get and the more money I recieve
Feb 7 2014 5:34PM
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raymondcabral
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My friend has had his voodoos for 4 years and they're in like perfect shape. And I love mine. But if they don't fit then don't buy them
Feb 7 2014 9:09PM
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FangleDangle
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I had full tilts and they cracked, I made a thread about it earlier. So since you've seen two posts showing each brand can get blown out, just get yourself fitted. I will say Dalbello has a more "updated" design since it's based on raichelle boots. Where fulltilt stayed with the original design Dalbello changed it up.
Feb 8 2014 12:46AM
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bdowning
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Full Tilt has updated their original design in both their Soul and Influence shells.
Feb 12 2014 1:11PM
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lyndenC
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dalbello costs more but lasts longer but overall its the same boot but dalbello added a lower hinge point and a different buckle system
Feb 15 2014 12:30AM
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jakejolo_9
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I know you want dabello or full tilts but nordica makes an awesome boot and they have great quality and are very durable
Feb 15 2014 8:56PM
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Fullmetal38
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Sorry to dig up a old thread, but Im sorta doing the same thing right now.
My Dalbello Krypton Fusions just broke a buckle, and the bootboard just broke, and now the shins are so packed out, I have the buckles all the way down and still on occasion get shinbang. I have pads all over the place to help get another season out of these boots, but its apparently not gonna happen. When I broke the buckle, I broke the screw mount too. They riveted a new buckle in, and its not even the same buckle as a Krypton. SO then my booster strap also breaks the next day. Granted, these boots are about 2 and a half years old, with probably 220+ days on them (backcountry, park, groomers, and backcountry bootpacking too) so they are at there limit.
Im considering trying out a Full Tilt, but I do love my Dalbellos. If I was to replace, it would be with the new 3 buckle ill Moro. But, I was considering a Full Tilt to see if they are superior. I know people that have gone from Dalbello to Full Tilt, and have known people that did the opposite.
I know the story behind the Dalbello Krypton, which is Raichle made the original 3 piece buckle boot (Flexon), and when Raichle went out of business, Full Tilt (Technically K2, but later a sub company was created "Full Tilt")bought the Raichle patents, moulds, and designs. Team riders that rode for Raichle (I can only think of Glen Plake), went to Dalbello and wanted to create a similar design, but change the things that he didn't like about the Raichle.
The lineup of athletes between the two companies is insane, they both have so many insane riders.
Im just torn if I go with a Full Tilt and am not satisfied with it, there goes my season.

Is there anyone that has lots of experience between the two boots?
Basically, someone that has made the mistake that I'm afraid of? hahahaha
Dec 13 2014 11:47AM
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onenerdykid
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Fullmetal38Is there anyone that has lots of experience between the two boots?
Basically, someone that has made the mistake that I'm afraid of? hahahaha


The only mistake is buying the boot that doesn't fit. As said about 15 times so far in this thread alone, the boot the fits you is the right boot. Get it to match your foot shape, leg shape, and be an appropriate flex for your needs and you will have a great setup.
Dec 13 2014 12:45PM
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Fullmetal38
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Hahaha, funny thing is, I have tried them on. Honestly, you can't really get a super feel for a boot unless you take it on the hill in my opinion. I have a super narrow foot, pretty much every boot is compatible with it....I just have never abused a Full Tilt, and thats really my question is what people think is better for them.
Im probably gonna just get another set of Dalbellos because they worked so awesome for me for years, but I really wanna know why Full Tilt has such a following.
Dec 13 2014 12:48PM
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cobra_commander
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99 times out of 100, buying full tilts is a mistake. Such a shit contraption of shit, that skis like shit. Just shitty.
Dec 13 2014 7:01PM
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suup
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Turd.Fergusondalbello boss is soft as hell for me it works fine and i ski 80% park 10% not park

What about the other 10% lulz
Dec 13 2014 11:26PM
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qazwsxedc34
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cobra_commander99 times out of 100, buying full tilts is a mistake. Such a shit contraption of shit, that skis like shit. Just shitty.


Please elaborate.
Dec 13 2014 11:36PM
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qazwsxedc34
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cobra_commander99 times out of 100, buying full tilts is a mistake. Such a shit contraption of shit, that skis like shit. Just shitty.


Please elaborate.
Dec 13 2014 11:36PM
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tomPietrowski
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Fullmetal38Hahaha, funny thing is, I have tried them on. Honestly, you can't really get a super feel for a boot unless you take it on the hill in my opinion. I have a super narrow foot, pretty much every boot is compatible with it....I just have never abused a Full Tilt, and thats really my question is what people think is better for them.
Im probably gonna just get another set of Dalbellos because they worked so awesome for me for years, but I really wanna know why Full Tilt has such a following.


Your correct in sayin just trying on the boot tells you very little about the fit but the best way to determin the fit is not to ski it, it's to have a shell check done. As boot fitters we asses the fit of a boot based off the shell. We know we can make te liner work if the shell has apropriate space.

Simply trying on boots is not the same thing as being fitted. Try to find a shop who offer boot fittin and base your desicion off the boots te fitter recomends.
Dec 14 2014 12:21AM
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Lutsenwreck
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tomPietrowskiYour correct in sayin just trying on the boot tells you very little about the fit but the best way to determin the fit is not to ski it, it's to have a shell check done. As boot fitters we asses the fit of a boot based off the shell. We know we can make te liner work if the shell has apropriate space.

Simply trying on boots is not the same thing as being fitted. Try to find a shop who offer boot fittin and base your desicion off the boots te fitter recomends.


This and reiterate that getting fitted properely means going to a reputable fitter with no preconceptions on which boot you want beyond what you would be telling your bootfitter about what kind of skier you are, what skis to you have etc. If you can work woth a fitter AND demo them before you buy you'll have it made. Also I jad all sorts of shinbang issues and thougt my boots were to blame... then I learned how to land properly
Dec 14 2014 11:16PM
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shin-bang
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so i made the decesion that youre about to make. i ended up getting full tilts, they were a good fit, but didnt fit me in the toe box. (so i got massive toe bang) and i even ended up with a little shin bang too. ive gone through over 3 pairs of boots and have gotten shinbang in all of them. do yourself a favor and go to a fitter, and close your eyes, and get the boot that the fitter recommends and what feels the best. your pants hang down over your boots anyways, who cares what they look like.
Dec 15 2014 12:23AM
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KravtZ
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I have krypton rampage's and never get shinbang in them. They fit perfectly. Go to a boot fitter and find whats best for you. Don't select a boot because it looks cool or is a freestyle boot or wahtever...clearly the kryptons don't work well with your feet
Dec 15 2014 11:31AM
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Fullmetal38
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Heres what sup guys,
I laugh at everyone saying "Go to a boot fitter" I was and worked for a boot fitter for 3 years. The reason why I went with a Krypton, was because my boss put one on my foot based on what he thought was the best fit. It not only slipped on like a glove, but after the mold, the toe box was borderline perfect.
Let me say, I haven't regretted my decision going with Kryptons, and as stated, they were selected because of fit.
Honestly, I know a lot of people that have tried both, and people that have Kryptons and can't stand them, and people with Full Tilts and can't stand them.
I have already made a decision on this, and I am going with the Kryptons. Like I said, they were fitted to me, and I haven't had a complaint since.
Dec 22 2014 12:33PM
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onenerdykid
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Fullmetal38Heres what sup guys,
I laugh at everyone saying "Go to a boot fitter" I was and worked for a boot fitter for 3 years. The reason why I went with a Krypton, was because my boss put one on my foot based on what he thought was the best fit. It not only slipped on like a glove, but after the mold, the toe box was borderline perfect.
Let me say, I haven't regretted my decision going with Kryptons, and as stated, they were selected because of fit.
Honestly, I know a lot of people that have tried both, and people that have Kryptons and can't stand them, and people with Full Tilts and can't stand them.
I have already made a decision on this, and I am going with the Kryptons. Like I said, they were fitted to me, and I haven't had a complaint since.


So you're laughing at everyone for saying "go to a fitter" but then you say your boots "were selected because of fit" and "were fitted to me, and I haven't had a complaint since". I'm not sure I follow your argument...
Dec 22 2014 12:40PM
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steeze4days
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Look dude, the people are right, you should go to a boot fitter, but i'm sorry i'd just like to say fuck off to all the people saying FT's suck, i went to a boot fitter, and found that Full tilt's original shell fits me best and suited my needs best, everyones different, Dalbellos might be the better option for someone else but maybe not for you, and vice versa for FT's

So, go get fitted, ask your dealer if FT's would fit your foot shape and size, and if they would then splash the cash, if not, go for whatever fits your foot better.

Theres nothing more to it.
Dec 22 2014 3:01PM
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kirbstopper
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FT's are a fucking noodle laterally. They really don't jive well with a stiff charging ski. When it comes to 3 piece boots dalbellos perform much better outside the park. All that aside, you are wasting money if you do not go to a reputable boot fitter to even see if any of these fit you properly.
Dec 24 2014 7:51PM
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Mr.Penguin
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Fullmetal38Heres what sup guys,
I laugh at everyone saying "Go to a boot fitter" I was and worked for a boot fitter for 3 years. The reason why I went with a Krypton, was because my boss put one on my foot based on what he thought was the best fit. It not only slipped on like a glove, but after the mold, the toe box was borderline perfect.
Let me say, I haven't regretted my decision going with Kryptons, and as stated, they were selected because of fit.
Honestly, I know a lot of people that have tried both, and people that have Kryptons and can't stand them, and people with Full Tilts and can't stand them.
I have already made a decision on this, and I am going with the Kryptons. Like I said, they were fitted to me, and I haven't had a complaint since.


If you "was and worked for a boot fitter for 3 years" why the hell would you be on New Schoolers asking for boot advice?
Dec 25 2014 9:43PM
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Fullmetal38
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Im on here asking for advice because I'm not a ignorant kid. I like information, and I like different opinions and different evaluations of things. I like and ride all K2 skis. Does everyone like K2? NO
This place is so ridiculous sometimes. For reals.
Everyone, go out and ski. God damn.
Jan 13 2015 11:33AM
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funkynuggz
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if i was you... i'd wait till 2016 line drops. the line up is way better then 2015 line
Jan 13 2015 8:12PM
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