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Lowering DIN?

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ManicMaverick
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Hey guys, couldn't find a thread on this, if there is please link it for me. Anyways, my DIN setting is at 8, and I'm 195 lbs and 6'1". My concern is that my skis havent popped off once, and I've had a couple of nasty crashes already. Is it okay for me to lower the DIN setting myself? By increments of .5?
Jan 7 2014 8:26PM
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DominatorJacques
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Sure it's okay.  It's all about risk level of braking you leg.  For your size a 7 should be good. 
One thing some don't understand is, that all things being equal, the longer the boot, the lighter the setting.

When your ski pops off you should not feel anything in your leg.  8 may be fine for you.  If you were way cranked up, then it would be a much bigger risk.

Other factors are forward pressure adjustment and some bindings toe pieces are also adjustable up and down, in and out wings too.

Always check from the makers to do it correctly.  Good luck.
Jan 7 2014 10:35PM
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Kretzschmar
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sure you can lower them yourself and it shouldn't be a problem.

Word of advice, if you are really that concerned, bring them back to your local shop if you can and have a trained tech lower them.

Also, have you lost a lot of weight (15-20lbs) since you got your DINs adjusted last? That could be the cause for you not releasing as well.
Jan 7 2014 11:59PM
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ManicMaverick
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No, I haven't lost any weight. I'm fairly confident that I could adjust it myself, because I'm not raising the setting. It just seems weird to me that they haven't popped off yet. I have a friend that weighs and is the same height as me, and his bindings are set at 7. However, his pop off randomly once in a while. So I'm thinking 7.5 is the sweet spot.
Jan 8 2014 11:35AM
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Balto
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Pretty sure you are charting out where you should be if memory serves and without knowing your bsl. I wouldn't touch it. Your skis aren't going to come off in every crash, and some bindings have more elasticity then others (fks compared to say PX).
Jan 8 2014 11:38AM
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Balto
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of course if you told them the wrong skier ability type that would put you over...
Jan 8 2014 11:39AM
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OregonDead
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Unless you have it on film it is hard to know if an incident should have caused a binding to release or not. Last season I had a binding release and I though it was a random pre-release. I was just skiing down the mountain and my ski popped off. When I caught up with my buddies I was about to complain about it and my friend was like "good thing your binding released" He was skiing behind me and saw my ski catch in an icy rut. I didn't see it or feel it so I guess the binding worked perfectly. I've also had some pretty violent crashes where both skis stayed on and I was able to ski away without tweaking anything.
Jan 8 2014 7:38PM
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bigbromskier
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whether or not your ski popped off is totally dependent on the situation. if they were adjusted to your personal settings by a trained tech I'd leave them.
or if you're really peeved about it adjust them by one notch and if you don't have any problem go with it. it's really raising the DIN that's cause for concern.
Jan 8 2014 10:36PM
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ManicMaverick
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Thats kinda what I've thought, that lowering it shouldnt be an issue. I'm fairly confident in my ability, I've been skiing since I was 7. I'm 19 now, so that seems like a long time to me. I dont have one of the more nasty ones on video, but I think I understand what you're saying. All of the crashes I have had, I have been fine from. So it's probably just me worrying. I might just leave it, but we'll see how this weekend goes.
Jan 8 2014 10:50PM
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DominatorJacques
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Ability level should be changed to "Risk Level" !  

It is ALWAYS better to drop a ski than to destroy you knees.  You have many years to ski.  Once you screw up you knee, it may never be the same again.

Jan 9 2014 10:10AM
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ManicMaverick
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Never thought of it that way, I like that!
Jan 10 2014 4:29PM
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Park.
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that is correct, but there is a point where a ski staying on your feet is safer than it coming off. Personal experience, I like it more when they aren't shooting off in the middle of a field of icy moguls where falling could easily screw you over more than them not coming off OP, ignore this post since your din and ability level do not reflect this comment
Jan 10 2014 6:49PM
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CashmereCat
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If had troubles with my skis coming off way too soon too. If I do a big enough disaster or pull a grab too hard. Generally speaking it's better to come off and not want it to than the other way around though
Jan 10 2014 6:56PM
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ManicMaverick
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Well, last night they popped off from a fall, so that was a good sign to me. I was merely getting worried that they weren't going to pop off, and would lead to serious injury.
Jan 11 2014 12:56PM
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Park.
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i would strongly disagree. From all of my experiences plus my coaches having their experiences, we all agree higher dins are better once you reach a certain ablility level+high risk features/terrain
Jan 12 2014 2:15PM
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k2andcannoli
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One thing no-one mentioned is that you should have your binding's release tested at a shop. Just because your din reads 8 it may not be releasing within the required newton meter (force) range for an 8 din.

In other words, an 8 din may be more like 10 because your bindings, for any number of reasons, are not releasing correctly.
Jan 12 2014 2:27PM
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Dustin.
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You can't possibly recommend him a DIN setting without skier type of BSL. So don't ever do that.
Jan 12 2014 5:42PM
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Casey
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I noticed that too. Someone didn't get THE MEMO.
Jan 12 2014 6:12PM
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Dorf.
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sounds like your forward pressure might be too tight.
Jan 12 2014 6:45PM
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pow314
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you guys are a bunch of fuckin' morons. setting your own din is not some insanely difficult task that only a shop tech can do. if you weigh 185 pounds then 8 is fine. i weigh 170 pounds and my din is 15. you're gonna be ok.
Jan 14 2014 1:36AM
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SamtheEagle
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Yes but I didn't say yes so don't sue me
Jan 14 2014 2:35AM
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onenerdykid
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This is actually some super bad and possibly liable advice. It is not difficult to adjust, but it is difficult to try to argue your way out of a lawsuit with "you're gonna be ok". Difficulty has nothing to do with it, legal liability does. And it sucks. But it's the reality- if you recommend a DIN and that person gets hurt, then you can be legally held liable.

Simply put- don't do it. Go to a shop that has certified technicians to make sure everything goes according to plan.
Jan 14 2014 6:50AM
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DominatorJacques
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I did not recommend anything.  In the end this is what I said.

" Always check from the makers to do it correctly."
Jan 14 2014 9:41AM
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RudyGarmisch
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So if I weight 160, dins at 22?
Jan 14 2014 7:21PM
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DominatorJacques
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Good luck with a 15!  You gonna break your frickin' knees soon!  You funny!  That is a heavy risk there!
Jan 16 2014 10:15PM
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