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Al dente durability

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Onetoothwilly
Posts: 53 - Karma: 101
My skis from last season have become absolutely trahsed, and I really wanna get the al dente. I am just worried about the durability they are so soft buttery just wanna make sure they won't break
Dec 19 2013 3:28PM
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lgski
Posts: 1832 - Karma: 2,291
1st.


Dec 19 2013 3:29PM
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Twig
Posts: 6400 - Karma: 59,590
the edges are super thin, i wouldnt buy them.
Dec 19 2013 5:10PM
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youngdtay
Posts: 3122 - Karma: -112
The edges are not "super thin". They're 2.2mm, which is only .3mm thinner than the edge on their other park skis. If the edge was 1.7mm, then I would agree with you, and probably wouldn't have bought them.
Dec 19 2013 5:32PM
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srg_bchkv
Posts: 200 - Karma: 170
How many skis did you break? If none, you shouldn't be worried about them breaking.

And they are soft and buttery in the tips only, the tails are much stiffer and much less buttery.
Dec 19 2013 11:55PM
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twatt_chaurus
Posts: 470 - Karma: 1,682
the bases are paper thin on al dentes
Dec 20 2013 10:44AM
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Twig
Posts: 6400 - Karma: 59,590
they are narrower in both dimensions (width and height). they call them 2.2mm but go look at them compared to pretty much any park skis on the market and they are super thin.

when I measured them planning to buy the aldente they were around 2mm wide (lets be generous and call it 2.2) and 1.5mm high (3.3mm cubed of edge). The ar7 has an edge that is 2.5mm wide and 2.2mm high (*minor innacuracy possible) and so 5.5mm cubed of edge.

All this means is the al dente has 60% of the total edge thickness of the ar7 (as in just over half as much metal). Enjoy.
Dec 21 2013 6:12PM
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tomPietrowski
Posts: 7126 - Karma: 17,343
Nice man. It's interesting to think about it like that.
Dec 21 2013 6:37PM
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Mr_pretzel
Posts: 4616 - Karma: 1,289
Got to love armada.

Change the flex a little, give it a new topsheet and say its henriks pro model and boom!
Dec 22 2013 11:21AM
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broto
Posts: 9039 - Karma: 25,662
i don't know why you're being downvoted for posting the truth. my buddy has a pair and he's got ~20 days on them and the edges are already getting thrashed. in another GT thread concerning edge thickness, someone who works at a shop went and measured edges and the al dente's were very noticeably thinner than other armada skis. i guess to keep a fat park ski light they skimped on edges
Dec 22 2013 12:45PM
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Mr_pretzel
Posts: 4616 - Karma: 1,289
Thats the whole problem, if they would have re-engineered the entire ski for henrik that would have been cool. But they just changed the arv. blaaaaaaaaaa
Dec 22 2013 4:08PM
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broto
Posts: 9039 - Karma: 25,662
just went and looked it up. here are user Twig's numbas from a shop.

Atomic Infamous - 2.2 x 2mm
K2/Line - 2.2mm x 2mm
Armada '2.5impact edge' - 2.5mm x 2mm
Armada Al Dente Edge - 2mm x 1.3mm (paper thin edges).
Volkl Kink - 2mm x 2mm
Scott Jib - 2mm x 2mm

https://www.newschoolers.com/ns/forums/readthread/thread_id/767558/
Dec 22 2013 4:22PM
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YUNG_milksteAk
Posts: 1437 - Karma: 4,328
When I rode with Phil and henrik last season, phill was missing a lot of his edge, and henriks bases were fucked, they are low quality skis marked up to be a promodel
Dec 23 2013 12:52AM
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mnskier.
Posts: 157 - Karma: 61
I can confirm this.
Jan 7 2014 12:44AM
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L3NNY
Posts: 63 - Karma: 881
The Al Dente are probably one of the best I've skied... just posted a quick review here:
https://www.newschoolers.com/ns/forums/readthread/thread_id/763260/page/2/
Jan 7 2014 12:55AM
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That_One_Dude
Posts: 1050 - Karma: 760
I completely agree with your statement, but the engineering major in me has to point out that it would be mm squared of edge since you're talking about the edges cross-sectional area haha.
Jan 7 2014 1:16AM
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Twig
Posts: 6400 - Karma: 59,590
balls. right you are, I teach maths, the kids are fucked.
Jan 7 2014 5:13AM
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funkynuggz
Posts: 353 - Karma: 197
this guy!!!! i love my Al Dente, def wouldn't wanna ride anything else, overall best skis ever
Jan 7 2014 4:52PM
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funkynuggz
Posts: 353 - Karma: 197
they won't break on you, if your wanting it lil stiffer wait till 2015 Al Dente they made it lil more stiffer in the tails. but overall one of the best skis i've put on my feet!!!
Jan 7 2014 4:56PM
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srg_bchkv
Posts: 200 - Karma: 170
I may be wrong but I think the Al Dente is not changed for 2015. They are just being more honest with the numbers :)
Jan 8 2014 2:38AM
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