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L.WattsYo, been to a shop and got measured. I could go for either a 25.5 or a 26.5 but why TF do some sites when in trying to buy my boots say "25/25.5" or 26/26 .5" and others state one size like "26". I'm going for a 26 but if I purchased the 26/26.5 would they be too big? Why can't it be simple ay?
B.QuincySo ski boots dont go in half sizes at least shells do not, some have liners that have slightly more volume or size eliminators in to decrese space, having said this i urge you to go to a bootfitter so he can shell size you and figure everything out.
L.WattsI have done that as I said, I am looking online to find the same boots I tried on for a lower price but some website sell 26/26.5 and others sell either 26 or 26.5. I want a 26 flat but if I buy the first set I don't really know what in getting if you catch my drift?
L.WattsI have done that as I said, I am looking online to find the same boots I tried on for a lower price but some website sell 26/26.5 and others sell either 26 or 26.5. I want a 26 flat but if I buy the first set I don't really know what in getting if you catch my drift?
Profahoben_212Well if you weren't a scumbag that wastes bootfitter time and money you wouldn't have that issue. Did you at least tip the guy? You are gunna end up blowing way more money buying boots on line in the long run dude.
Profahoben_212Well if you weren't a scumbag that wastes bootfitter time and money you wouldn't have that issue. Did you at least tip the guy? You are gunna end up blowing way more money buying boots on line in the long run dude.
B.Quincy^^ I don't think you understand at all what I said, hence why you should go to a boot fitter, its worth the extra 100ish bucks upfront to do it right and have someone who knows what they are doing do the heavy lifting its only plastered all over this thread... if you can't understand what I said above then you definitely should not be buying boots online in the first place sorry dude......
Mikha197Hello! I've heat molded Ultra 130 and custom footbeds. Shell test is 2 cm. The boots are awesome but there's minor problem. When I extend in hard circumstances I can feel that liner slides inside boots. I've found that boot board slides a couple of mm. Can I glue it and what else can I do to stop liner from sliding?
onenerdykidAre you feeling this while skiing, or just while standing inside?
Mikha197While standing but I had some hard moments while skiing in hard conditions with legs jerking movements in boots.
PauliusJHi, I am a newbie to this forum and before asking for an advice want to thank you all for sharing your knowledge and insights.
I was snowboarding for 10+ years and last year started skiing. So far I was renting skiing equipment, but decided it is time to acquire boots of my own. I have narrow calves, rather narrow feet and high instep. Thus almost all rental boots were too roomy for me. I am currently in Austria and went to one of Intersport shops to get my self measured for boots. Nowadays they have this fancy equipment where you stand on a plate I suppose and it scans your feet and comes back with 3d picture and numbers. Here is what it said: Mondo point 28.5, left foot 282mm, right 274mm., width left 102mm, right 100mm and then it gave some sort of W1 rating for width. And then instep (risthohe in german) was left 67mm, right 69mm.
They gave me a couple of boots to try but as well indicated that Atomic hawx Ultra would probably be the best choice. And indeed it felt most snug. Others were mach1 (was too tight around 3rd buckle), lange rx - a bit looser than hawx ultra (but overall quite tight), nordica speedmachine - felt quite good but not as snug around calves as hawx ultra.
Based on the above I would appreciate any insights cause I am leaning towards Hawx Ultra. They feel great in shop but I am just wondering are they not going to be too tight eventually? As well in the shop they told me that Ultras has the highest instep which is what I am looking for.
Thank you!
onenerdykidScanning systems aren't all they are cracked up to be- a lot of smoke and mirrors half the time. But, if the measurements are genuine, it's probably close. The only way to know for sure to have them do a shell fit- take the liner out of the shell and put your foot inside the plastic shell and make sure the boot matches the shape of your foot. That is talked about ad nauseum here.
I'm not going to recommend you a boot (because we can see your foot), but I will say you should start with the boot that feels the most snug. You can always make a boot bigger, you can't shrink it down. If it is loose now, it will be a huge problem later on- this is the tightest the boot is ever going to feel, it's only going to get looser as time goes on. You want the boot to feel like a firm handshake. Not crazy tight, but comfortably snug all around your foot.
If they have this scanning system, they most likely have the tools to make space around certain parts of your foot too.
PauliusJThank you! I will do a shell fit today to see how it looks. Eventhough I have spent some time in two different shops neither even mentioned that I should do a shell fit, thus I migth have to do it on my own. And indeed there is a ton of information about it here. Just a few questions regarding hawx ultra - as far as I understand they will be able to mold shell at any time, even after skiing for a few days. What about liners? Can I just ski as they come and then mold them, or they will adjust to my foot and then it is not going to work? As well I have measured my ankle flex as per your instructions, and I can bent beyond my toes, which implies that I have greater mobility. I am 1.95 m tall and around 93 kg, and would say that I am quite an agresive skier. So here comes the very general question - was thinking about 110 or 120 flex in hawx ultra. I am leaning more towards to 120, since eventually I will be able to stiffer it with that additional bolt. But I am wondering if this is the right way to think about this - I am still learning, would say that I am on a rather steep curve, but still not an expert. Maybe 120 would be too much for now.
Thank you again!
onenerdykidI'm not surprised the shop didn't do a shell fit, but it still blows my mind how ignorant most European shops are when it comes to basic boot-fitting...
onenerdykidI'm not surprised the shop didn't do a shell fit, but it still blows my mind how ignorant most European shops are when it comes to basic boot-fitting...
Anyway, my guess is you'll probably be in the right shell still but it's the only way to be sure. Scanners are like foot sizers- they are only a starting point.
You can mold the Hawx Ultra at any point. If the shell fit looks good (for width and length), I would recommend heating the liner only and not the shell. You can always make more room, it is hard to shrink it back if too much is done too quickly.
I would also steer you to the 120. I guy your size will have no trouble powering that boot, and as you get better it will be there for you as you progress.
And also invest in an aftermarket footbed/insole. Ask the shop what options they offer and get one. It will 100% ensure your foot stays centered in the boot while skiing and the best way to ensure the boot stays comfortable.
f100prerunnerYo guys, just looking for a bit of advice. This year I was fitted by a reputable shop for some lange xt 110's. The punching and foot fitment is there however my calf is rather high on my leg and I have somewhat skinnier ankles. Have a footbed in there and stock liners. The upper buckle grabbers are moved to the tightest position and I still have to tighten to the second to last setting to have them tight enough. I even have a plastic removable shim behind the liner that is upper cuff height and a shim on the tongue. Even when at this tightest point (almost as tight as boots will buckle) I still feel like my ankle up to 4" above has roll. My ankle is locked in place in terms of pivoting however I have a tiny bit of lift. I realize these liners are not the best and am thinking maybe a new liner is the right call? Any recommendations?
DlonettiI have had dalabello jack boots for almost 4 years now, never a major problem except every season I always end up with major park toe and my toes are generally sore during the day. any suggestions?
Stag412Just bought some 2018 Full Tilt decendent 6's. Having some heel lift issues. Seems like I can't keep my heel back with out having them so tight it is unbearable. Only have 2 full days in them. Have been trying to break them in around the house as well. When I tried them on at the shop I couldn't notice it. First pair of FT's I have owned. First pair of 3 buckle boots I have owned. Just looking to see if anyone else has experienced this or has any solution.
Stag412I bought them from a local shop. I have a very wide foot. I had them heat molded. I did not get a foot bed because (I was told) that Intuition liner footbed will mold itself like a custom. I was told if needed I could still get a custom. I will pull the liner tonight and see what my foot looks like in the shell. Tried micro adjustments on top and mid buckle last night. Had a little luck with getting them more tolerable to wear cranked down. Hopeful they just need broke in.
last_tangoanyway to fix a boot that is too big length wise other than buying new boots?
PinsAndNeedlesI gotta thank everyone on this thread for all the awesome advice that's already been posted.
I have a bit of an odd situation, and I don't know if it's normal. Bought a new pair of boots online (I'm hundreds of miles away from a boot fitter, at best), did a shell fit, they were too small so got the next size up. Shell fit was perfect (1 1/2 cm in each dimension) and putting them on they felt snug and good with none of the immediate toe crunch (I mean crunch) of the previous size. These are Dalbello Aspects, which advertise 102 last. Took them out skiing stock, to try them out. First half hour was golden. Adjusted the boots on the fly as my feet settled in. The next hour of skiing I had a weird pain on the outside bottom of my left foot, about an inch back from the last knuckle on my pinkie toe. It was pretty bad at its worst, but then suddenly disappeared and I skied the rest of the day pain free.
Hoping to fix the problem, I got a Superfeet Blue (they fit my arch almost perfectly when I tried them in store) and put them in. Next time I went skiing, the same thing happened, and this time in both feet and worse on the left. I thought this might be because the Blues are thinner than the stock footbeds so maybe my foot is being subjected to more pressure from the bottom curve of the boot? Any thoughts if this is normal? Or a way to fix it? Would a thicker footbed help (the Greens are thicker, but also higher arch, and I'd like to avoid too much arch if possible, since that can cause pain of its own)?
Thanks in advance!
OregonDeadWhat are some low volume shells that are similar to the Lange XT 130 Freetour LV? That boot is not on a good sale anywhere. I want something low volume and high performance that has a walk mode for short tours. Doesn't need to have tech fittings since I'm using Daymakers for now. Boot fitter guy said basically to get something as low volume as possible 97-98 last and size 27-27.5 shell.
Profahoben_212Hawx ultra xtd?
I ride a Nordica gpx 130 which is pretty close to the lange I believe. Hawx fit me great.
Profahoben_212Hawx ultra xtd?
I ride a Nordica gpx 130 which is pretty close to the lange I believe. Hawx fit me great.
OregonDeadDo you ski the Hawx ultra xtd all the time now in the resort or do you still ski the Nordicas inbounds?
RedDevilRedDevilI took my Scarpa Freedom RS (touring boot) in to get custom fitted. My getaway sticks are pretty slim so shin bang was all time. Fixed that with some eliminators or whatever, and these sticky heel shapers. The guy sold me on some Midas footbeds. Fast forward to my actually touring in them. They are soul crushingly painful on my heel, simultaneously pinching from the sides and crushing. Certainly not the desired effect. I removed the footbed, skied no bed. Better but still pretty whack. Different food bed? Lose that weird outside of liner Tetris looking foam pad?
RedDevilRedDevilSides of heels and ball of heel. I think maybe different footbed and removed heel insert, but wanted feed back first. I might also just buy the FT touring boots for 18/19 because I love my alpine ones so much. But I am interested in making these work for now. Anyone have foot bed preferences? The midas ones I think are too cupped on the heel portion, judging by how it feels. I like súper feet in other stuff.
L.WattsYo, been to a shop and got measured. I could go for either a 25.5 or a 26.5 but why TF do some sites when in trying to buy my boots say "25/25.5" or 26/26 .5" and others state one size like "26". I'm going for a 26 but if I purchased the 26/26.5 would they be too big? Why can't it be simple ay?
East_CoasterMy mid buckles keep breaking on my full tilt classics. Does anyone know if I can get an aluminum buckle replacement? I hate the plastic buckles. Everytime I put tension on them, the fork that holds the cable bends.
QuaffI don't know if it's a problem, but one of my boot shells is super creaky and loud when I walk/flex but the other one is silent. What causes this?
onenerdykidThey have spare parts on their website.
Usually it means that there are fine dirt particles or some other contamination between the cuff and the shell. You can try to clean it out with soap and water, and then add a bit of silcone spray.
East_CoasterBut I can only find an aluminum mid buckle replacement on eBay. And only one buckle is left to order. I don't want to get the plastic ones again.
