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onenerdykidWho actually doesn't have problems with their boots? How did arrive at that? By blind luck? By the grace of a fitter?
traylortrashthis may have been covered, but what is the best way to tell if your toe is too worn down? been rocking cattracks recently but fuck they are a bitch to get on at the end of the day when you're wearing your boots.
also- I love full tilts because my feet are very small volume, but I do have strangely high insteps, which don't mix with full tilts that well. any shells that are known to be very small volume but have a little more allowance for a higher instep?
trevorschuI got fitted for new boots (2016 Atomic Hawx 100) by a professional and they felt great in the shop and after my first few runs they felt great but after a few more in them my feet were cramping a lot. I was just wondering if this is normal and about how long it takes to break in new boots. Also, if it persists should I try to get them custom fitted or something or just go to exchange them?
trevorschuI got fitted for new boots (2016 Atomic Hawx 100) by a professional and they felt great in the shop and after my first few runs they felt great but after a few more in them my feet were cramping a lot. I was just wondering if this is normal and about how long it takes to break in new boots. Also, if it persists should I try to get them custom fitted or something or just go to exchange them?
californiagrownI had my boots and footbed done down in CA a few years back. Now I live in WA so getting free adjustments isn't possible.
Recently I've been having issues with the muscle on the outside of my ankle getting fatigued easily, and the upper part of my Achilles where it attaches to the calve fucking kills- like actually debilitating for a few hours after taking my boot off... But only sometimes oddly enough.
The ankle muscle always(put a wedge under the outside edge of footbed?).
The Achilles issue sometimes(always same buckle tightness, but some days its debilitating, others its unnoticeable.). No idea what to do.
onenerdykidIt sounds like you might have limited dorsiflexion... What is your ankle range of motion like? Easy test- standing barefoot, normal hip width, flex forward at your ankles simultaneously. How far can you get your knees forward before your heels lift up off the ground? Knee barely to your toes, past your toes, well past your toes?
californiagrownHaha oh yeah, tore some ligaments and broke my right ankle a few years back and didn't go to the doctor for a few weeks thinking I had just sprained it... Then the MRI happened and now i have decreased dorsiflexion in it for sure. I've been working on getting it back, mainly for squatting, but it stopped progressing a while ago.
I also have SUPER high arches and insteps, a pretty wide foot and they are both supinted a decent amount.
The weird thing is that my fitter recognized all of it straight off and my boots have never given me this problem till the first few times this season. I'm sure feet/ankles/calves change a little bit each year due to a bunch of factors but damn... I'd like to make a few tweaks to get these back to feeling like a tight hug and not a judo submission hold haha
What are your thoughts on fixes? I'm in a Lange SX120 fyi
onenerdykidDid you get footbeds when you bought the boots, or are you just using what came with the boot?
californiagrownHaha oh yeah, tore some ligaments and broke my right ankle a few years back and didn't go to the doctor for a few weeks thinking I had just sprained it... Then the MRI happened and now i have decreased dorsiflexion in it for sure. I've been working on getting it back, mainly for squatting, but it stopped progressing a while ago.
I also have SUPER high arches and insteps, a pretty wide foot and they are both supinted a decent amount.
The weird thing is that my fitter recognized all of it straight off and my boots have never given me this problem till the first few times this season. I'm sure feet/ankles/calves change a little bit each year due to a bunch of factors but damn... I'd like to make a few tweaks to get these back to feeling like a tight hug and not a judo submission hold haha
What are your thoughts on fixes? I'm in a Lange SX120 fyi
californiagrownTo answer your question... I'm 6'4" and can get my knee about 2-3 inches past my toe on the problem foot(Achilles issue), and almost 5 inches on my "good" side.
trevorschuI have not gotten footbeds but I got fitted for heel lifts at the shop which they said should probably fix the problem. Also gonna ski this weekend so hopefully they will help and my boots will break in more.
onenerdykidHonestly, it is 99% most likely going to be fixed with a good footbed. Heel lifts don't solve the problem of the foot flexing and twisting inside the boot while skiing. In order to solve the cramping etc, you need to get a proper footbed made for your feet.
onenerdykidWith people who have limited dorsiflexion, the main strategy (besides good footbeds) is having a boot that does not allow you to flex past the limitation in your flexibility, usually meaning upright stance (13°-12° of forward lean) and a stiff flex. The Lange SX 120 is definitely upright and on the stiffer side, but not regarded as a really stiff boot especially if you are 6'4". But, I would say you are in one of the better boots for someone with such a biomechanical limitation. Do you think the boots are stiff enough for you? Was there ever a scenario when you were last skiing where you totally over-flexed the boot and possibly stressed that injury/area?
californiagrownYes, there are certainly those times, but at 6'4" and 200lbs what can you expect?! Any suggestions to mcguiver the boot?
The Achilles issue is the worst problem. It's more of a bad pinch/bruise/trauma issue. Why is that happening? I'm an engineer and like to know the cause before figuring out a solution.
onenerdykidMaking that specific boot stiffer is going to be difficult because there are already 2(?) screws in the back. If there's only one, you can drill a hole and add another and it will boost the flex by about 10 points. But the bigger problem is the soft plastic over the instep- as you flex forward, it will collapse and there's nothing you can really do to stop it. On their RX/RS models, that piece is absent which yields a more structurally sound shell design. But, those models are also narrower & lower volume...
Your Achilles problem is most likely due to/associated with your limited dorsiflexion. If your boot allows you to flex more than your biomechanics allow (especially during those singular, hard "bottom outs"), then it will strain your Achilles for sure and lead to pain/swelling in the area you described. I hate to say it, but finding a boot that has a similar geometry (upright stance of 12° or 13°) but a more stable shell will help you a lot. But nonetheless it would be a good idea to see a PT in order to help heal that area before it gets worse.
You could also look into getting a firm Intuition Power Wrap liner. This liner style will help keep you more upright (nice, thick padding in front of the shin) and because they use very firm foam, it will help keep the shell a bit more stable than you current liner. This will be easy to test in the shop for you at least too.
SamNewton1onenerdykid and tom whats your opinions on a custom superfeet using the new machine versus say a sidas custom?
FinBastardHelp me out fam, so I just got a pair of brand new Full tilt Descendant 4's and They fit my leg good length and width wise, but I just cant buckle the middle and upper latches. The lowest latch buckels up nice, but the two upper ones just aren't long enough to close. And I checked and they are at the biggest settings they can get. What do?
Profahoben_212I got fitted for boots (nordica gpx 130) and they have been great....except I get pain on the inside point of my ankle. Is there anyway to fix this? I would go back to the fitter...but I'm back in SD 18 hours away for the next month.
onenerdykid98mm boots tend to be simply wide versions of a company's world cup fit, so the free space around the navicular and/or medial ankle bones is very minimal. Because the shell therefore sits closer to the foot, the first step is 100% making sure your footbed is dialed and if you don't have one, you really need to get one. 2-4mm of ankle movement can ruin your day in a 98mm boot, so make sure you properly stabilize your foot/ankle with a footbed. If your footbed is in place, then you will need to (most likely) have the shell stretched/ground in that area to make enough free space around your ankle.
To make sure what I am saying is accurate, you can do a simple shell fit at home: remove the liner from the shell, place your footbed in the shell, step in while wearing a thin ski sock, and notice where & how your medial ankle comes in contact with the shell. If there is no gap between your inner ankle and the shell, you will need to have the shell modified in this area, and that means making a visit to your boot-fitter once you are able to do so. If there is a 5mm gap, then you are probably ok and it is just a matter of the liner breaking in.
tfshI will try to keep this short. I bought new boots in the summer (k2 pinnacle 110) and the soles hurt like hell. I came back from a backcountry trip and had numerous foot beds made. They all sucked and my soles killed. So I bought new boots (Lange 130) and had custom mounded foot beds made. I went out at Jackson Hole for a run or two and my feet hurt like hell. I went into the ski shop 5-6 times through the day with horrible pain, had the inserts grinded out. Nothing helps, can't ski probably half a run without feeling like someone is slicing a blade through my feet. Any help?
onenerdykidThere's a couple of things going on here. For starters, you can't go from no support (street shoes) to full customized support (ski boots + custom footbeds) without taking the time to adapt to the new support under your feet. Your feet are made up of a bunch of sticks and rubber bands, and over time certain tissues (especially the one under your foot called your plantar fascia) can become super tight. If you toss a bunch of support underneath it, your foot will freak out.
Did you wear your ski boots at home to get used the arch support? Do you wear arch support in your everyday shoes?
Without seeing your foot, it sounds like you have either a very tight plantar fascia band or you may have developed plantar fasciitis. It would be a super good idea to wear supportive footbeds in your everyday shoes and you should probably go see a pedorthist or orthopedist because this is a tell-tale-sign that you should.
B.QuincyOkay just quoting this so you will see it.
So, i got to steamboat yesterday, and skied first time this season today in 2+ ft of pow with my magic j's and 2014 ft dropkicks. They always have been a little tight but just tight enough and not to the point where they caused major pain. Today however was extremely painful specfically the left foot on the outside of my foot so much that after skiing i could barely walk. Now im not sure if it was a combination of my first day back, deep pow, fat skis, etc or something is wrong. They were heat molded but no liners or anything and no i didnt go to a bootfitter when buying them. My question is should i go see a bootfitter in steamboat? Im really not looking to spend big bucks and most definately cant afford a new pair of boots. What should i do and how? Im gonna shred my park sticks tomorrow to see if that helps.
histonskierHey, I've skied park all my life cause I'm from the midwest but I just moved to Montana and my full tilt classics with an 8 flex tongue feel way too flexy and horrible skiing big mountain and I have no control. I'm still going to ski a lot of park but I want to be able to ski big mountain too. I'm thinking about buying the dalbello krypton pros 2 with a 130 flex, I've tried them on and they fit great. Im 5'10 155lbs and am wondering if this will be too stiff for me to still ski park with out a problem.
erikskitrollwhen i land a little back seat my foot moves forward
nelesonIf you have Full tilt boots then you know that you have 3 fittings + the starp on top. But my fitting under the strap is very loose can i thighten it in anyway that it would support my foot any better?
onenerdykidFoot support will not come from the boot itself, it will come from a supportive footbed (insole) that is purchased separately from the boot and ideally made to your foot's specific needs. A footbed creates the proper interface between your foot and the ski boot and without it, you will have less control, less comfort, and less performance. To get one, research in your area (or where you go skiing) who makes the best ones and take your boots there with you.
liam.haslam1if i have size 29.5 liners for my boots could i use size 29 instead? my boot is just a little too big for me, i get shin bang pretty bad.
QuazBotchThe heels on my boots are definitely worn out, but I can replace those. They don't have replaceable toes though. Are these toes done? The front bottom of the lug is missing about 4mm according to the second last page of http://www.rasc.ru/gear/pdf/dynastar/dynastar.race.2011.2012.pdf . The length of the worn out area front-to-back is about 5mm too long. Are those diagrams legit, or too conservative? I won't be at a good shop that might have a tool for this for a few weeks.
Peter.when you flex foward in ski boots, the toes obviously slide back, but is the back of your calf supposed to pull away from the back of the liner? i have really skinny legs combined with high calves. wondering if there is too much room up in the top of my boot
onenerdykidThis is totally normal. However, if you generally have gaps all around your leg regardless if you are flexing or not you should have some volume reducing pads made (and put on the outside of the liner) that will take up that excess space. Gaps will lead to a lot of friction and your leg getting bruised, so these pads will help a lot with that.
