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The Official: "What is wrong with my boots?" Thread
This thread should be seen as an accompaniment to the "How To Buy Ski Boots" thread, more specifically aimed at solving a problem with your existing ski boots. Rather than clog up Gear Talk with countless repeating threads, please dump your boot-fitting related questions here and we will do our best to help you out.
Remember, nothing is a substitute for going to a real boot-fitter; they can see your foot, we can't. So if you can't get to a boot-fitter, or are frustrated with your current one, we can help point you in the right direction. Try to be as descriptive of your problem as possible and post pics if you can. The more information we get from you, the more successful we will hopefully be in helping you out.
Thanks for the input onenerdykid. The shell fit fore/aft is good, but we did a lateral shell fit and there's no way it's wide enough yet. She's touching the plastic on both sides without the liner.
I talked to the fitter who did my footbeds at another shop and he thinks the Redsters are the wrong boot for her as the 23.5 last is 96mm, and her foot at the widest point is 105mm. We were assured when we bought them that the boot could be blown out enough to accommodate her foot, but the other fitter thinks it will be difficult to get, let alone keep it that wide without vertical volume issues. We went for the Redsters over the wider Hawx originally as the Hawx were too high-volume pretty much everywhere except for her metatarsals and we thought that might be a bigger long-term problem.
He suggested we take them back and see if they would consider trading out the boot for the Hawx. We went to the shop and they wanted another go at widening the shells - it doesn't sound like they'll consider replacing the boots which is pretty disappointing if they can't make it work, as we bought the boot on the assurance that they would be able to fit them.
We're going to give them one last chance to work on the width. If it works, great - if it doesn't, we'll purchase Sidas custom footbeds anyway, and the other fitter said he will continue to work on the boot width gratis if we shell out for the footbeds. If, after all that, it still doesn't work, I guess we've just wasted ~$6-700. To be continued!
CONAIR_BUSCEMIHey, I was wondering what Booster Strap I should get for my Full Tilt Classics? The Intermediate or the expert/pro.
I’m an aggressive, park/all-mountain skier. I am 20 years of age, 5’ 7” 140lbs.
I occasionally get toe band and there is a gap between liner and shin, due to my noodle calfs.
If you are unsure of what "stiffness" to get, go with the softer one. In my opinion, a cam-style strap does wonders for creating a seamless fit between shin, tongue, cuff and the rebound properties are secondary. Worst case scenario you get the stiffer one next year, but I doubt you will really need it.
ankhouThanks for the input onenerdykid. The shell fit fore/aft is good, but we did a lateral shell fit and there's no way it's wide enough yet. She's touching the plastic on both sides without the liner.
I talked to the fitter who did my footbeds at another shop and he thinks the Redsters are the wrong boot for her as the 23.5 last is 96mm, and her foot at the widest point is 105mm. We were assured when we bought them that the boot could be blown out enough to accommodate her foot, but the other fitter thinks it will be difficult to get, let alone keep it that wide without vertical volume issues. We went for the Redsters over the wider Hawx originally as the Hawx were too high-volume pretty much everywhere except for her metatarsals and we thought that might be a bigger long-term problem.
He suggested we take them back and see if they would consider trading out the boot for the Hawx. We went to the shop and they wanted another go at widening the shells - it doesn't sound like they'll consider replacing the boots which is pretty disappointing if they can't make it work, as we bought the boot on the assurance that they would be able to fit them.
We're going to give them one last chance to work on the width. If it works, great - if it doesn't, we'll purchase Sidas custom footbeds anyway, and the other fitter said he will continue to work on the boot width gratis if we shell out for the footbeds. If, after all that, it still doesn't work, I guess we've just wasted ~$6-700. To be continued!
Yeah, (from this information & without seeing the foot personally in the shell) that seems like the wrong boot for her. Hawx might very well be the better starting point.
And technically, in size 23/23.5 the last is 92mm wide since it is 98mm on size 26/26.5 and each last is scaled by +/-2mm...
To make that specific shell wider to her needs, there is a good chance that the instep will get much lower as a result... So while they could stretch it for her, she might lose volume over the top of her foot as a result. This could very well cause other problems.
I would have her at least try a Hawx on and see if that feels better for her. No point in making her hate skiing and going back to the dark side!
onenerdykidI didn't see it in the other posts, but perhaps you could do a shell fit for us and report back. Remove the liner, put your foot in the shell, slide your toes to the front so they just barely touch, and measure the space behind your heel. 1cm is a performance fit, 2cm is normal, 3cm is way too big.
I know you said you went to a fitter, but it simply sounds like you are in the wrong shell size or possibly wrong shell altogether and need something a bit lower volume and/or narrower.
Did a shell check today and with my toes at the front of each boot I have 1.5cm space from the back of the boot to my heal. Technical term, performance-ish I guess.
The best overall description I can give of whats happened is it feels as if the last has increased over the week. At the beginning of the week I could have skied them without the buckles done up (I didn't but you know what I mean). As the week went on my lateral foot retention in the lower boot became non existent. I know what a packed out liner feels like as I put over 60 days on my old boots, this is very different its the botton of the shell expanding not the liner.
LamafamaDid a shell check today and with my toes at the front of each boot I have 1.5cm space from the back of the boot to my heal. Technical term, performance-ish I guess.
The best overall description I can give of whats happened is it feels as if the last has increased over the week. At the beginning of the week I could have skied them without the buckles done up (I didn't but you know what I mean). As the week went on my lateral foot retention in the lower boot became non existent. I know what a packed out liner feels like as I put over 60 days on my old boots, this is very different its the botton of the shell expanding not the liner.
Definitely in the right size then. However, if the shell is a bit too wide or too high volume for your foot then the liner will pack out faster since your foot is able to move around more causing the foam to compress. If your fit is a bit snugger, then you typically reduce the speed at which the liner packs out.
Do this next test for me: liner out, foot in shell, heel to the back and then slide forward 4-5mm, shift the inside portion of your foot to the inside portion of the shell, and see how much space is on the outside of your foot. A finger tip is normal, a full finger is too much space. If you have the latter, it could for sure be contributing to the slop you feel.
After this, I would invest into a foam injection liner. No need for a new boot. Just get rid of that excess space with good, solid PU foam.
From Ohio, heading out to Jackson Hole in 2 weeks. Need new boots as I am 6' 180lb and riding a Lange Com. Ohio bootfitters are decent at best. Aspen SKi & Board in columbus has a decent selection and pretty good at what they do. I'm debating waiting to get fitted when i go out to Jackson. The only kicker, is that i'm worried my foot may have shrunk a half size or so, which means a smaller boot won't fit my skis (I'm assuming).
So I either roll the dice on quality getting boots and footbeds made here in OH, or roll the dice when I get out in Jackson with my bootsize changing. Thoughts?
From Ohio, heading out to Jackson Hole in 2 weeks. Need new boots as I am 6' 180lb and riding a Lange Com. Ohio bootfitters are decent at best. Aspen SKi & Board in columbus has a decent selection and pretty good at what they do. I'm debating waiting to get fitted when i go out to Jackson. The only kicker, is that i'm worried my foot may have shrunk a half size or so, which means a smaller boot won't fit my skis (I'm assuming).
So I either roll the dice on quality getting boots and footbeds made here in OH, or roll the dice when I get out in Jackson with my bootsize changing. Thoughts?
Half size won't be a problem since ski boots are really full size only (26 and 26.5 are the same shell and liner 99.99% of the time). So, unless you get downsized an entire shell (which is possible) then you won't need to adjust your bindings.
If you can't find a reputable fitter in your area, I would roll the dice in Jackson. There are tons of great boot-fitters at the mountain who do great work, so finding a boot there that fits you well should be an easy thing to get set up with. Matt @ Wildernest Sports is/was one of the best there, but I think their shop may have closed...
If you were to call up any shop in Teton Village, I am sure you will at least be able to talk with a full time boot-fitter who can help you out before you get there.
onenerdykidDefinitely in the right size then. However, if the shell is a bit too wide or too high volume for your foot then the liner will pack out faster since your foot is able to move around more causing the foam to compress. If your fit is a bit snugger, then you typically reduce the speed at which the liner packs out.
Do this next test for me: liner out, foot in shell, heel to the back and then slide forward 4-5mm, shift the inside portion of your foot to the inside portion of the shell, and see how much space is on the outside of your foot. A finger tip is normal, a full finger is too much space. If you have the latter, it could for sure be contributing to the slop you feel.
After this, I would invest into a foam injection liner. No need for a new boot. Just get rid of that excess space with good, solid PU foam.
I can get two fingers around the top (boom phrasing) of my foot and one finger down the side.
Sadly foam liners are't much of an option in Scotland as there are not many places that do them any more. Unless I want to take a trip down to London then I may as well go see Solutions4Feet and have new boots done with the cost of it all.
LamafamaI can get two fingers around the top (boom phrasing) of my foot and one finger down the side.
I would say the boots are a poor fit for you then.
At a guess you have quite a long, low volume foot, and the last on these is too big - pretty common issue really, going too wide in the foot in order to get the length you need.
If we move away from the fact that the boots are most likely fundamentally a bit wrong, you need to take up that excess room. Short of an injection liner, I'd start by putting a layer of hard foam under the footbed but taking up that lateral space is going to be tricky.
I was pretty perplexed by your conclusion that you were blowing out the shells, to be honest.
LamafamaI can get two fingers around the top (boom phrasing) of my foot and one finger down the side.
bonus points for Archer reference
LamafamaSadly foam liners are't much of an option in Scotland as there are not many places that do them any more. Unless I want to take a trip down to London then I may as well go see Solutions4Feet and have new boots done with the cost of it all.
I was just speaking with Colin a few minutes ago. He could fit you up with a new liner, but being the perfectionist that he is I bet he would want to put you in a Redster or Raptor to get rid of that excess space in the shell. X-Max, though wildly popular, is rather wide especially off the lateral portion of the foot. One of those other boots I just mentioned would probably be a better match for you.
onenerdykidI was just speaking with Colin a few minutes ago. He could fit you up with a new liner, but being the perfectionist that he is I bet he would want to put you in a Redster or Raptor to get rid of that excess space in the shell. X-Max, though wildly popular, is rather wide especially off the lateral portion of the foot. One of those other boots I just mentioned would probably be a better match for you.
That's looking like the best option, I'm not heading out till march again so will probably make the trip down, if I can afford it I will tie it in with ISPO, are you heading out there too?
This is called the tuberosity of the 5th met and it sounds like the exact area you are describing and unfortunately a common problem with Surefoot's footbeds. I have replaced many of these (along with Superfeet) for this reason. The tuberosity of the 5th met (a very common hotspot) gets pushed up by the footbed in this area. Sometimes the underneath portion of the footbed can be ground down in this spot to lessen the pain but sometimes it doesn't work well.
Try that first, but I would then look into a footbed from A-Line or Sidas that don't have these issues.
I'm having this exact problem right with my FT Konflicts right now. The strange thing is, I've been riding all season and right up until the last couple days it hasn't been a problem at all. There seems to be somewhat significant pressure coming from the shell at the base of my 5th metatarsal causing pain. I've been doing a lot of hiking in these boots lately (which is a bit out of the norm for me) and thats the only thing that I can think of that agitated it. Otherwise they had been great all season. Unfortunately my left boot is now quite painful to ski in as a result. Should I be looking into modifying the boot/footbed or just take some time off and let the swelling of the "tuberosity of the 5th met" die down and hope it returns to normal? Is that an area that people generally punch out? Never had this problem before and i;ve been skiing these boots since late winter of last season.
I've got an interesting one fore you, I seem to get pain on muscle on the outside of my shins, but only in intuition liners, both wrap and tongue style.
it first started with my full tilts and after those died I got langes, and with the stock liner I never got this pain, when that liner started to die, I put a tongue intuition in because I figured it was just the power wrap was causing a pressure point in my full tilts, but nope, those caused crippling pain so I put the stock liner back in, now held together with gorilla tape at most of the seams.
This year I got some Lupo's with the dalbello intuition and the pain is back, its more severe on my left shin than the right.
Got any idea besides just saying fuck intuition and buying some other liner? I would put the lange liner in my other boots but their trashed and a size bigger than my new boots.
LamafamaThat's looking like the best option, I'm not heading out till march again so will probably make the trip down, if I can afford it I will tie it in with ISPO, are you heading out there too?
Yep, I will be at ISPO the entire time. It's usually mega busy, but swing by the Atomic booth and ask for Matt. I'll give you a tour of the new hotness
Charlie*Should I be looking into modifying the boot/footbed or just take some time off and let the swelling of the "tuberosity of the 5th met" die down and hope it returns to normal? Is that an area that people generally punch out? Never had this problem before and i;ve been skiing these boots since late winter of last season.
This is probably the most common spot to modify a ski boot. I've done more lateral 5th met punches than I can count. As you experienced, this is common as the liner packs out and your foot becomes closer to the shell so it's not weird that it was fine earlier and not now. If you already have a footbed, it's good to double check that it is properly supporting your foot (and not contributing to the cause). Once that is ok'd then your boot-fitter can stretch that part of the boot and you'll be good to go. Should be an easy fix
TheWeazI've got an interesting one fore you, I seem to get pain on muscle on the outside of my shins, but only in intuition liners, both wrap and tongue style.
it first started with my full tilts and after those died I got langes, and with the stock liner I never got this pain, when that liner started to die, I put a tongue intuition in because I figured it was just the power wrap was causing a pressure point in my full tilts, but nope, those caused crippling pain so I put the stock liner back in, now held together with gorilla tape at most of the seams.
This year I got some Lupo's with the dalbello intuition and the pain is back, its more severe on my left shin than the right.
Got any idea besides just saying fuck intuition and buying some other liner? I would put the lange liner in my other boots but their trashed and a size bigger than my new boots.
Do you have proper supportive footbeds in your boot? Because without them, your leg will sit twisted in the cuff and it can lead to all sorts of rubbing, cramping, and chaffing. If you don't have them, they should be the first thing you get or do before you go skiing next. And remember to have your liners re-molded once they are in since they reposition everything into the right spot.
onenerdykidYep, I will be at ISPO the entire time. It's usually mega busy, but swing by the Atomic booth and ask for Matt. I'll give you a tour of the new hotness
Sweet cheers, I'm over having peering at cores and bases and helping with my friends wax business. I'm James, I always feel odd using forum names in real life.
LamafamaSweet cheers, I'm over having peering at cores and bases and helping with my friends wax business. I'm James, I always feel odd using forum names in real life.
Even if you asked for "onenerdykid" the girl at our front desk would be able to figure it out haha
onenerdykidDo you have proper supportive footbeds in your boot? Because without them, your leg will sit twisted in the cuff and it can lead to all sorts of rubbing, cramping, and chaffing. If you don't have them, they should be the first thing you get or do before you go skiing next. And remember to have your liners re-molded once they are in since they reposition everything into the right spot.
sorry, forgot to mention I have some very low volume custom boot docs footbeds in, as well as booster straps.
TheWeazsorry, forgot to mention I have some very low volume custom boot docs footbeds in, as well as booster straps.
Ok... well it could very well be that Intuition's products simply don't work for you. It's rare but it is for sure a possibility, especially since you were comfortable in traditional liners. Therefore you could order up a similar Lange liner or go the foam route or Zip Fit route. I haven't personally used them, but I know people swear by Zip Fit. Expensive as shit, but I know people who have over 500+ days on the same liner and it's still going strong so in that sense they are a good value in the long haul.
ChiefKeithI've skied with my full tilts for about 20 days. Is it too late to get them heat molded?
That would not be necessary. Heat moulding just accelerates the breaking-in process, you've already used them 20 days so they should be nice and moulded as we speak.
Black.BirdThat would not be necessary. Heat moulding just accelerates the breaking-in process, you've already used them 20 days so they should be nice and moulded as we speak.
This is a bit of a misnomer about Intuition and Intuition-style liners. Heating such a liner does more than speed up the break in process (although you can argue that it does do that since after heat molding they fit your foot better). They are designed not just to mold to your foot but also your shell. And molding them to your shell cannot be done through your body heat alone.
To the original question, I would not necessarily remold them unless you wanted a different/better fit. If your boots fit fine, don't mess with it. However, I would say as a general rule, that new liners of this style should be heat molded when new so the best fit is given from day 1.
This is my first year skiing in my own boots. I went to a boot fitter, got fitted for Dalbello Lupo's, Sidas footbeds, heat molded intuition liners, the whole enchilada. The performance difference is substantial, and they fit my foot to perfection. For some reason, my toes go numb abnormally fast. Now everyone gets cold toes once and a while, but mine are numb after an hour of riding every single day, no matter the temperature. It is getting to the point where I have to take multiple breaks inside to warm them up, something I have never had to do before, even skiing in rental boots.
I am just not sure what to do. It may not be an issue with my boots, but I have never experienced it to this degree before.
MartianManI am having a significant problem with cold toes.
This is my first year skiing in my own boots. I went to a boot fitter, got fitted for Dalbello Lupo's, Sidas footbeds, heat molded intuition liners, the whole enchilada. The performance difference is substantial, and they fit my foot to perfection. For some reason, my toes go numb abnormally fast. Now everyone gets cold toes once and a while, but mine are numb after an hour of riding every single day, no matter the temperature. It is getting to the point where I have to take multiple breaks inside to warm them up, something I have never had to do before, even skiing in rental boots.
I am just not sure what to do. It may not be an issue with my boots, but I have never experienced it to this degree before.
Sounds like the blood flow over your instep is getting restricted and/pinched off. For starters, you should not be buckling your boots super tight over your toes or super tight at the ankle. I'm assuming you are in the right size and the footbed is correct, so you don't need to be cranking down the buckles. At least start there.
After that, do you have a high instep? If so, your boot-fitter can create more room by padding the instep and re-molding the liners so that more room can be made there to allow better blood flow. He can also grind down the boot-board by a few millimeters, which can also help.
onenerdykidSounds like the blood flow over your instep is getting restricted and/pinched off. For starters, you should not be buckling your boots super tight over your toes or super tight at the ankle. I'm assuming you are in the right size and the footbed is correct, so you don't need to be cranking down the buckles. At least start there.
After that, do you have a high instep? If so, your boot-fitter can create more room by padding the instep and re-molding the liners so that more room can be made there to allow better blood flow. He can also grind down the boot-board by a few millimeters, which can also help.
Thats the weird thing. I am not buckling my bots very tight at all. Also, I have a very low instep, flat foot.
MartianManThats the weird thing. I am not buckling my bots very tight at all. Also, I have a very low instep, flat foot.
0/2... let's see then... How many days do you have in the boots? Is there a chance that things simply aren't broken in yet and the firm liner is just a bit too snug still?
There's a difference (sort of) between numb and cold feet. Cold feet aren't always numb (numb being you have decreased sense of touch, tingling, etc), but numb feet are usually cold.
Few things- try different socks. Thinner is sometimes better (if things are really tight). If there's a little extra room a thicker sock can also make things warmer.
One thing people overlook is having warm boots to start. Either by a boot warmer (like dry guy if you have an outlet in your car), or try to have a couple of the car's heat vents blowing into the boots. Starting temperature at the beginning of the day can help you retain a lot more heat throughout the day. I never put on cold boots.
And as discussed earlier it could be that you're just not getting great bloodflow to your toes and feet, which can be helped in other ways.
onenerdykid0/2... let's see then... How many days do you have in the boots? Is there a chance that things simply aren't broken in yet and the firm liner is just a bit too snug still?
Yeah I have about 12ish days in them. Maybe that is the answer. I wish going to a boot fitter would be the call, but I purchased these boots in Big Sky, and I am currently in NY.
MuggydudeThere's a difference (sort of) between numb and cold feet. Cold feet aren't always numb (numb being you have decreased sense of touch, tingling, etc), but numb feet are usually cold.
Few things- try different socks. Thinner is sometimes better (if things are really tight). If there's a little extra room a thicker sock can also make things warmer.
One thing people overlook is having warm boots to start. Either by a boot warmer (like dry guy if you have an outlet in your car), or try to have a couple of the car's heat vents blowing into the boots. Starting temperature at the beginning of the day can help you retain a lot more heat throughout the day. I never put on cold boots.
And as discussed earlier it could be that you're just not getting great bloodflow to your toes and feet, which can be helped in other ways.
Thanks for the advice. I will look into thin ski socks.
MartianManYeah I have about 12ish days in them. Maybe that is the answer. I wish going to a boot fitter would be the call, but I purchased these boots in Big Sky, and I am currently in NY.
Thanks for the advice. I will look into thin ski socks.
If you don't have thin (read: thin & non-padded) non-cotton ski socks, this should definitely be on your list. You will have a better fit in the boot and be warmer (less sock thickness means more air space which keeps your foot warmer). Your Intuition liner already acts like a thick warm sock, so no need for more.
Some great options to look into are: Smart Wool PhD Ultra Light, Darn Tough Ultra Light, Falke SK4 Pro Race.
onenerdykidIf you don't have thin (read: thin & non-padded) non-cotton ski socks, this should definitely be on your list. You will have a better fit in the boot and be warmer (less sock thickness means more air space which keeps your foot warmer). Your Intuition liner already acts like a thick warm sock, so no need for more.
Some great options to look into are: Smart Wool PhD Ultra Light, Darn Tough Ultra Light, Falke SK4 Pro Race.
Thanks for the help. Im going to get a bunch of pairs of the Stars and Stripes Darn Tough Ultralight ones. Why? Because 'Merica.
I have heel bruising issues in my boot. Right on the back of my heel. I know why I get this and it's because my left foot pronates because I have really bad arches. But the boots I have (fulltilt booter) fit like a glove and don't really have much room in them at all. I want to get footbeds but I'm not sure they will fit? Theres not much space at all in the boot. How big are footbeds usually?
I recently skied mad river glen and noticed that my full tilt classics in deep snow felt like noodles. I felt very unstable and there was a lot of lateral lag. I just got them fitted with surefoot footbeds and they hurt really bad now near the outside side/shoulder portion of my feet. Secondly, I feel that I can't charge with them in deep snow or in the trees. I'm going to go back to get my boots looked at by a boot fitter but do you think I should get a stiff tounge as the 6 tounge I have feels too soft and would a booster strap work as well as i have a large space between my calf and the liner which makes the boots feel that much softer. I don't know I'm really mad though. I'm 20 years old, 5 foot 7 inches 140lbs if that helps. Also, will the boot fitter charge me again even though I payed so much for boots that hurt! I would put this into paragraphs but I'm on mobile
CONAIR_BUSCEMII recently skied mad river glen and noticed that my full tilt classics in deep snow felt like noodles. I felt very unstable and there was a lot of lateral lag. I just got them fitted with surefoot footbeds and they hurt really bad now near the outside side/shoulder portion of my feet. Secondly, I feel that I can't charge with them in deep snow or in the trees. I'm going to go back to get my boots looked at by a boot fitter but do you think I should get a stiff tounge as the 6 tounge I have feels too soft and would a booster strap work as well as i have a large space between my calf and the liner which makes the boots feel that much softer. I don't know I'm really mad though. I'm 20 years old, 5 foot 7 inches 140lbs if that helps. Also, will the boot fitter charge me again even though I payed so much for boots that hurt! I would put this into paragraphs but I'm on mobile
The pain you are experiencing with Surefoot footbeds is very common and one of the reasons why many boot-fitters (including myself) recommending using something else. I would honestly say get a new footbed from ALine or Sidas for starters.
Stiffer tongues and stiffer liners will for sure improve the power transfer and responsiveness of your boot. Classics don't really have a thick/firm liner and this is for sure related to the lack of power which you described.
onenerdykidThe pain you are experiencing with Surefoot footbeds is very common and one of the reasons why many boot-fitters (including myself) recommending using something else. I would honestly say get a new footbed from ALine or Sidas for starters.
Stiffer tongues and stiffer liners will for sure improve the power transfer and responsiveness of your boot. Classics don't really have a thick/firm liner and this is for sure related to the lack of power which you described.
Yeah, should I get a 8 or 10 tongue. Yeah, the original classic liner got packed so I just put in the pro liner which is slightly stiffer. Still though, a stiffer tongue and maybe a booster strap would help.
CONAIR_BUSCEMIYeah, should I get a 8 or 10 tongue. Yeah, the original classic liner got packed so I just put in the pro liner which is slightly stiffer. Still though, a stiffer tongue and maybe a booster strap would help.
I would for sure start with replacing the footbeds. The sure fit like the superfeet korks surport the foot in it's maximum pronation not neutral. This will mean your tib and fib will b slightly roared inwards meanin you pressurize the inside of the boot more then you should, this may be why you feel they are laterally soft. But one thin to consider is full tilt just are laterally soft. The nature of a three shell can never compete with an overlap boot. So it may just be the boots are just not enough for you.
tomPietrowskiI would for sure start with replacing the footbeds. The sure fit like the superfeet korks surport the foot in it's maximum pronation not neutral. This will mean your tib and fib will b slightly roared inwards meanin you pressurize the inside of the boot more then you should, this may be why you feel they are laterally soft. But one thin to consider is full tilt just are laterally soft. The nature of a three shell can never compete with an overlap boot. So it may just be the boots are just not enough for you.
Actually, the sure foot footbeds are supinating my foot so I feel most of my body weight and pressure on the shoulder portion or outside part of my foot, not the inside.
And yeah, boots are very expensive I just feel like I need a stiffer boot. Is there anyway to stiffen up the classics laterally??
A stiffer tongue will help with forward lean but I feel like when I’m turning and hitting bumps I get slight lateral lag as if my feet aren’t really secure in the boot, despite them being a perfect size.
CONAIR_BUSCEMIActually, the sure foot footbeds are supinating my foot so I feel most of my body weight and pressure on the shoulder portion or outside part of my foot, not the inside.
And yeah, boots are very expensive I just feel like I need a stiffer boot. Is there anyway to stiffen up the classics laterally??
A stiffer tongue will help with forward lean but I feel like when I’m turning and hitting bumps I get slight lateral lag as if my feet aren’t really secure in the boot, despite them being a perfect size.
It may feel like you are being forced out but I can garentee you won't be. If you were you would actually be feeling pressure under the medial side as the footbed forced you out. What you are feelin is more lickly the edge of the footbed.
Unfortunatly no no you can't really stiffen laterally. Full tilt and really any three piece will always be a bit softer because of the design it's why you don't see three piece used barely anywhere but in the park and moguls these days.
If I were to put a piece of hard foam on the inside of my FT tongue so that i could get my boot tighter around my shin would I still be able to distribute pressure evenly in the boot? And would putting that foam piece on there even work?
ABallsIf I were to put a piece of hard foam on the inside of my FT tongue so that i could get my boot tighter around my shin would I still be able to distribute pressure evenly in the boot? And would putting that foam piece on there even work?
I fixed this problem with a spoiler in the back and a booster strap, I used to have super skinny legs.
