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Vinnie Gagnier's Run - Judges/Commentators are fucking up

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nstubler
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How does this run not make the top 16?
And how can the commentators fuck up the names of half the tricks?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqnyTnOgpTw
Dec 12 2013 8:28PM
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corona
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x-games last year was a different story though. don't remember if he was landing them well, but I remember he was getting scored less than stock dub 14's and such for them.
Dec 13 2013 12:26PM
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Karma_Police
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Why is nobody mentioning his sketched out 12 landing?

Maybe that's why he got a low score? Nick and anyone in the top 3 had flawless landings.

Wake the fuck up people, if you're not landing your shit perfectly plan to get a lower score. That's probably the FIRST thing judges look at.
Dec 13 2013 1:05PM
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John18_6
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Sloppy landings didn't seem to affect nick geopper's score on his switch dub 14 at snowbasin in 2012. Just sayin.
Dec 13 2013 1:10PM
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Mr.Gaga
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There's a reason why he's the only one doing half the tricks he did in his run. He probably had the most difficult run that day. It's realy not that hard to come in the jump section and do the same variations of switch double 9/10 and double 10/12 that everyone's been doing for years (especially with grabs like japan on the switch dub and mute on regular ones).
Dec 13 2013 1:14PM
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danbrown
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haha octograbs are so haggard
Dec 13 2013 1:14PM
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Karma_Police
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Because that's fucking relevant in the current discussion.

So what? Did somebody lay down a super original run and get fucked then? I don't know nor do I care.

I skied deep pow last week, just sayin' maaaaaaaaaaan I can go off topic too.
Dec 13 2013 1:26PM
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powderhound123
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If you want to understand his score stop looking at the things that were amazing and look at the runs flaws. He threw 2 of my favorite tricks from the whole comp, but he was pretty inconsistent. That penciled out 12 definitely hurt his score and his second to last hit was a misty 7.


Dec 13 2013 2:13PM
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Mr.Gaga
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It was a bio7 with the most fucked up double grab...
Dec 13 2013 3:16PM
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hi_vis360
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at 0:48 the commentator literally says "I'm not watching". Also ABM is dank.
Dec 13 2013 3:47PM
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MNS
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WOW. Honestly, the things Vcash does on skis are the things I would try on a skiing video game and think it's weird, technical, and no one does it.


Dec 13 2013 4:10PM
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ShaunNDDuffY
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I'd hope it was the last thing they would look at! bloody fascists!
Dec 13 2013 5:27PM
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Gr0mo
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Didn't really get the whole Olympics are ruining freeskiing threads until i saw this.
Dec 13 2013 5:53PM
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404404
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Comp skiing follows a linear with not much deviation. If your one of those people that want to brake out of that then your not going to be scored well. Some examples might go against what I just typed but for the most part its true.

Vinnie's run was sick and had some different tricks but judges dont want different.


Dec 13 2013 8:13PM
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albatross.
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well as a judge u literally have a degree of difficulty sheet and if a trick isnt on the sheet it generally doesnt do well unless its a trick already on the sheet with an extra flip or rotation (you can just increase the degree of difficulty)

if its a totally different trick often it just gets eqivocated arbitrarily to a trick they believe has a similar degree of difficulty. this becomes a problem as a ton of judges arent really qualified to make that judgement call ESPECIALLY with rails

Dec 13 2013 8:19PM
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NotGhood
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comp skiing is gay

Vinnie had a sick fucking run but i wasn't surprised when he got fucked over by the judges

dew tour used to be a halfway decent event but its gone to shit the last few years

at least we have the olympics to look forward to right
Dec 13 2013 8:41PM
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skiierman
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Obviously people have no fucking clue how judging works for comps. You can't score an abstract trick higher because IT'S AN OPINION. It's much easier to score tricks that are spun longer and grabbed longer. This has been known for decades... literally, fucking decades.

Do you remember where you were when "pretzel" airs died?

IT'S A FUCKING SHIFTY. NOT A PRETZEL. PEP IS THE ONLY ONE TO DO A PRETZEL AIR. FUCK OFF YOU DUMB FUCKING FANBOYS.
Dec 13 2013 9:11PM
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icon1234
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You're so wrong thinking that is a 'shifty'. Like you are 100% wrong and look like a retard right now.
Dec 13 2013 9:24PM
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skiierman
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Oh really?

Could so kindly point out where he was able to spin to a degree, stop and reverse his spinning rotation, that'd be greatly appreciated. All I saw was him STOPPING his rotation with a twisting motion of his body... or is that now considered a pretzel?

You kids are fucking stupid.
Dec 13 2013 9:44PM
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corona
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agreed it's not a pretzel. but it's not a shifty either. he'd have to start his rotation again for it to be a shifty. he does the first half of a shifty then lands.
Dec 13 2013 10:14PM
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icon1234
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Bro your reading comprehension is stellar! I never called it an air pretzel, all I know is that fucking shit is def not a shifty.

So smart bro
Dec 13 2013 10:47PM
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e~b
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noooooo, "cork 7"
Dec 13 2013 11:15PM
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FerrisBueller
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hahahahahahahahah
Dec 13 2013 11:16PM
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fghtoffyrdmns
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i mean he wouldnt win because of the slopped out landing but he should have made finals so he could stomp it the fuck out the next day
Dec 15 2013 11:45PM
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jibbpeter
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False, Pep is not the only one. Besides Vinnie and Pep;


Charles gagnier also did a flat3 pretzel 180. Sry can't find the vid, but it was on a jump in Park lane Breck.
Dec 16 2013 12:01AM
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Stose
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If you knew the first thing about comp skiing you would understand how as cool as really slow stylish tricks look, a bigger trick with more technicality is better as far as competitions go. How can anyone argue that a really smooth 7 was harder to do than a dub 12? Comp skiing is not about how stylish a run is whatsoever, so once you learn that you'll be able to start complaining. Gagnier fully understands that and just competes for the love of skiing
Dec 16 2013 12:25AM
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AT-AT
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wow! that's pretty bad.
Dec 16 2013 12:26AM
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